my old Labour MP still follows me on twitter. It's amusing sometimes thinking about how she's often RT-ing any positive opinion pieces on Starmer or his own tweets, while I'm clicking like on juvenile photoshops or tweets calling him a "cop wanker" or comparing his complexion to sliced ham!
― calzino, Monday, 26 October 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
Liam Byrne has a lot to answer for tbf, his stupid note was a vital propaganda win in favour of austerity.
― scampus milne (gyac), Monday, 26 October 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
there was some weird kind of paralysis there, either that or just plain old cowardice and complete lack of conviction. I mean ffs like retorting: we didn't cause the 2007-08 global financial crisis actually. But no they just let the narrative take hold and tamely took their medicine. it was quite pathetic really.
― calzino, Monday, 26 October 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
His successor, Lib Dem David Laws, broke with tradition and made the note public, accusing Mr Byrne of flippancy.
Mr Byrne said he had been following a tradition dating back to Churchill.
Not entirely convincing tbh - 'oh well if it's tradition I guess I'll just have to...'
― nashwan, Monday, 26 October 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
far be it from me to post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF8c3BjFWsw
― Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 October 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
well
― liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link
i refer the thread to my comment of monday evening
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
I only regret that there is but one labour party for me to have quit.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
I have just finally quit the Labour party.
― chap, Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
last one out's a meeeelt
― imago, Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
xp to DanielSame.
Having said that, Jewdas, who are my heroes atm, present a decent, and inspiring case here:
For everyone tearing their hair out or their membership cards up, we want you to look at this image. The old adage that you get conservative with age only applies to babyboomers and their kids. The rest of us are what Israel might call a "demographic timebomb". pic.twitter.com/fkcoMa9Hem— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) October 29, 2020
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
that's a nice thread
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
Definitely feel like if a viable alternative to labour doesn't appear now, it never will
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
lol @ jewdas quoting the ira tho
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link
"viable" is the big issue isn't it? no left-oriented political party starting from scratch is going to be able to get the access to media and etc to mount a meaningful challenge in parliamentary elections any time soon. and i have to say that any left-oriented party has to run the gauntlet of wresting itself from the usual dipshit Stalinists and etc
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link
well, there you go then
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
i guess the answer is "never"
I wouldn't say never now tho, UK political processes feel exceptionally broken
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
Jewdas's graph kind of skipping around the conservatism of Gen X, isn't it?
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
"their kids"
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
i'm Gen X don't slander me
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
#notallboomers
― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
I bet it wasn't all boomers and gen X'ers in the membership that melted like butter over that shitty Starmer vid back in January and voted for the twat.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
that Kieth vid in full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTup9yo6T9M
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
https://vice-images.vice.com/images/content-images-crops/2016/08/08/owen-smith-bbq-in-london-fields-body-image-1470651753-size_1000.jpg?output-quality=75
bloomin' boomers + gen x'ers, what are they good for eh?
― calzino, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
God, if I'd remembered to send in my "stop giving any of my union subs to the Labour Party" form three months ago it could have been processed by Christmas
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
Did send my NEC ballot, like a good boy
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 November 2020 12:23 (three years ago) link
The results of @UKLabour NEC elections are being delayed from lunchtime to (approx) teatime as some people who were ineligble to vote appear to have done so and this is being addressed. I have no sense, though, that any faction is about to hire Guiliani— iain watson (@iainjwatson) November 13, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 November 2020 10:07 (three years ago) link
Update: The chair, co-secretary and a number of other members in Bristol West Labour have been suspended from the party: https://t.co/GTfALr1QHV— LabourList (@LabourList) November 13, 2020
Local parties were warned by general secretary David Evans not to “have discussions about, or pass motions in relation to any aspect of individual disciplinary cases” in an email to local officers last week.The guidance stated that the party would “not hesitate to take appropriate action – including against individual members” if it considered that the advice had not been adhered to.....But McLaughlin told LabourList: “The anti-democratic suspension of Jeremy Corbyn has, rightly, been a topic of huge debate within the party.“Because of this it is absolutely right that members should be able to have their say, as Keir Starmer does in every interview he gives.”
The guidance stated that the party would “not hesitate to take appropriate action – including against individual members” if it considered that the advice had not been adhered to.
....
But McLaughlin told LabourList: “The anti-democratic suspension of Jeremy Corbyn has, rightly, been a topic of huge debate within the party.
“Because of this it is absolutely right that members should be able to have their say, as Keir Starmer does in every interview he gives.”
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 13 November 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link
I've written off the party and am past the point of caring about right-wing purges and wotnot, thankfully because if I was still a concerned Labour member I might genuinely be getting high blood pressure from ranting about this arsehole. As it is now, I've achieved a reasonable distance and acceptance of events, where I can let thingss pass calmly + coolly observe this dismal jerkoff dying a slow political death, and witness him slowly fading into the obscurity the cunt richly deserves. With still a bit of Grrr! but not enough to give me high blood pressure.
― calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link
(1)So this is why Labour NEC election results are late: HQ Officials are obsessively combing through the ballot to see if they can cancel votes of members who sent angry "I resign" emails over Corbyn suspension After they were given a vote, but before they actually cast the Vote— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) November 13, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 November 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link
Five for the left. Was always a stitch up.
The following candidates have been elected as CLP representatives to the National Executive Committee:• Luke Akehurst• Johanna Baxter• Ann Black• Gemma Bolton• Yasmine Dar• Nadia Jama• Gurinder Singh Josan• Laura Pidcock• Mish Rahman— CLP Nominations (@CLPNominations) November 13, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
Luke fucking Akehurst back on the NEC!
― calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
thousands of souls chanting "stay and fight" in weary unison, shovelling their hopes and dreams into a giant furnace with HER MAJESTY'S LOYAL OPPOSITION in giant letters on the side, slowly filling the room with poisonous smoke— Rory Scothorne (@shirkerism) November 13, 2020
― calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link
i am fully sympathetic to both sides of the "stay and fight" vs "fuck this joek party" divide tbh
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
Momentum text suggested to rank them on the ballot as: Bolton, Rahman, Jama, Henderson, Dar, Pidcock
― nashwan, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
when i saw Pidcock's name i had a weird flash of "oh yeah you exist"
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
There’ll be at least one ilx poster who’ll be pleased about Pidcock
― scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
don't call it a comeback she's been here for months
― nashwan, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
iirc Pidcock is good not bad, or did I get that mixed up?
― timber euros (seandalai), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
she's decent i think, just joking about how she's dropped off the radar since the beginning of the year
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
she made some racially clueless comments in the leadership election iirc
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
She’s also a terf
― scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
ah fuck don't remember that, bollocks to her then
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link
The left chose to go along with her rather than ask tough questions. Very grim stuff xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
also she was very Chris Williamson adjacent
― calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
wait what i was still under the impression she was a good guy v sad
― plax (ico), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link
what was the terfiness?
― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
It was pretty clearly expressed terfy bigotry, not the subtle type.
it's a good reminder really that even if you started a new party, it would attract a massive bunch of unpalatable "committed-socialist" "lifelong anti-racist" "proud trade unionist" wankers with seriously problematic luggage - and just as fucking awful as most of the right-wing of the PLP in their own way!
― calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link
no shit, but if this isn’t buried I’ll be surprised.
Over half of Muslim members don't trust the leadership on Islamophobia or trust the complaints process. Respondents also cited Starmer's backtrack on Kashmir, weakening of stance on Palestine & Labour's association with Prevent as key issues https://t.co/Qc3lTYiQ7E— Ilyas Nagdee (@ilyas_nagdee) November 13, 2020
― You guys are ridiculous because I’m more on the left than you (Left), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link