"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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Permanent exile to Jersey Nebraska.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 03:46 (five years ago)

fresh fish sold here today

Neanderthal, Monday, 26 October 2020 03:50 (five years ago)

My favorite thing in that Lesley Stahl clip is right at the beginning when he starts in about spying on his campaign and she just shakes her head and says "No," kind of softly but full of disappointment.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 October 2020 04:02 (five years ago)

just like a movie theater owner that insists it's butter he's putting on the popcorn

Neanderthal, Monday, 26 October 2020 04:03 (five years ago)

Please somebody do a version where he’s saying “It’s butter, Lesley.”

“No.”

“It’s real butter, you can ask anyone on staff, they churn it themselves.”

“No.”

The little engine that choogled (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 26 October 2020 04:10 (five years ago)

WHY COULDN'T 'JOURNALISTS' HAVE BEEN ASKING HIM TOUGH (and these questions aren't even that fucken tough, just too tough for President Pussy) QUESTIONS FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS

Frankly, I'm happy to lump the bulk of the media in with the Lincoln Project yutzes at this point. Thank you for whatever little you're doing to help get us across the finish line at this particular time but once we're there I'm not gonna forget who you are or what you've done to enable this walking nightmare in the first place.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2020 04:13 (five years ago)

Six years ago, Angus King was calling press conferences to frame his caucusing with Dems as a way to have bipartisanship in Maine.

Now he’s signaling he may back expanding Court as a response to Barrett rush (vs Garland blockade).

The past 5 years summed up in one senator. pic.twitter.com/lrlP7abqBR

— Taniel (@Taniel) October 26, 2020

starting to think court packing is more likely than not

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 26 October 2020 04:16 (five years ago)

In the "even Fox News" category, this is a cogent take: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-hits-whatever-in-his-long-covid-retreat

Imagine talking to a Trump campaign official back in the spring when things seemed to be at their darkest on the pandemic front. What would he or she have told you if you described the condition of the economy and the spread of the coronavirus in mid-October?

What if you added in that the White House had seen a major infection outbreak after ignoring its own protocols? What if you said that Trump had been infected himself but still pooh-poohed mask wearing? What if you said he was holding rallies in swing states even as cases surged? What if you said Trump trashed his own public health team, with particular venom for Fauci? What if you said there had been no additional stimulus or bailouts?

Back then, they would have told you that Trump’s goose would be cooked if things were that bad and the candidate’s message was so undisciplined. But that, they would say, would never, ever happen because they are taking this all very seriously – vigilantly, even.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 October 2020 04:57 (five years ago)

Elections Project breaks down the previous week

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/Early_Vote_Analysis_10_25.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 October 2020 05:34 (five years ago)

Is this the new tone I’ve been hearing about

The Fake News Media is riding COVID, COVID, COVID, all the way to the Election. Losers!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 26, 2020

frogbs, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:09 (five years ago)

Get those doggies goin'

pplains, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:14 (five years ago)

Marcia, Marcia, Marcia

Fjord Explorer (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:15 (five years ago)

I've never seen a presidential candidate in a hole dig straight down with such enthusiasm, maybe he'll hit some magma and burn the fuck up already.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:16 (five years ago)

Losers!

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:17 (five years ago)

Assuming their new true SC believer is installed but does not throw a wrench in the election works - which *would* be tantamount to a coup, with no exaggeration - I think expanding the court or some other radical recalibration, is necessary. The past four years have seen so much bending/breaking/ignoring the rules/laws/ethics, from flouting subpoenas to not confirming cabinet members on down/up, that the entire system of government needs to be shored up so that this can't happen again (Laura Ingraham otm?). Mitch boasting that he expects all these laws and shit to be reversed but that the SC will take years to correct is just one of many final straws. We've got too many asterisks in the books.

Question: if more justices are appointed, will that spark a ... legal challenge? And if so, can the current 9 member Supreme Court find the addition of more justices unconstitutional?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:18 (five years ago)

Get those doggies goin'

lol

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:19 (five years ago)

Genius at work

Asked for update on Trump’s prospects in race, @jaredkushner on Fox: “I speak to all my state directors...”

He said “polling with phones“ now “an obsolete method, especially in the era of cancel culture.” Some pollsters “in the business for a long time” are “snake oil salesmen.” pic.twitter.com/TJhnUtG7HQ

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) October 26, 2020

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:24 (five years ago)

The court has been several different sizes. Nine justices dates from the Judiciary Act of 1869. But there's no reason why a congressional act can't change the number. If a democratic congress writes a clean bill, and it passes, that could become the new number.

Any ability for the court to rule on its own composition would have to come up through lower courts, and the grounds for such a case would have to be constitutional grounds - not just "we don't like that law."

Fjord Explorer (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:34 (five years ago)

saw this in a tweet earlier

Republicans have confirmed 15 of the last 19 SC justices. They've also won the popular vote once in the last 7 elections

frogbs, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:36 (five years ago)

Early vote now almost 60.1 million — less than I was guessing but in line per Election Project with no mail on Sunday and less activity in general. Still on track for big numbers for this week.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:50 (five years ago)

And if so, can the current 9 member Supreme Court find the addition of more justices unconstitutional?

When FDR said he was going to add more justices in the 30s, it failed because it was unpopular, not unconstitutional. The US has increased (and lowered!) the number of SC justices before, and they can do it again. As simple as Congress passing a law and the President signing it. The only real thing preventing it from happening in the modern era is a shared recognition between the parties that messing with the Supreme Court like that would destroy its legitimacy and make the country unstable. Well, the Republicans decided they DGAF about that, so now (as usual) the Democrats have to A. fix it and B. get shit on for trying to fix it.

I would find it hilarious if a Dem Senate in 2021 decreased the number of justices to seven and removed Kavanaugh and Barrett, then in 2022 raised it back to nine again and appointed two new liberal justices. It would wipe the smile off McConnell's face.

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:51 (five years ago)

holy shit

Jared Kushner on Fox News about the black community:

"President Trump's policies are the policies that can help people break out of the problems that they're complaining about, but he can't want them to be successful more than they want to be successful."

— Misyrlena Egkolfopoulou (@misyrlena) October 26, 2020

frogbs, Monday, 26 October 2020 13:56 (five years ago)

Jesus

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:59 (five years ago)

xpost I'm not sure anyone can simultaneously hold that position that the SC needs to be recalibrated because of years of unfairness and dubious shenanigans and cheating and that it *can* be recalibrated because that right is in the constitution and there's precedent for the number of justices being changed. One of the reasons this needs to be addressed is that tradition, precedent etc. have been eroded down to nubs. The SC itself gets to ultimately decide what is or is not constitutional, and they do so for bullshit reasons or based on blurry/inconsistent compromise all the time. There are lots of "popular" things that hang in the balance because the SC is currently full of shit and would/will shape the constitution to suit their desired outcome.

That said, I *love* the idea of Kav and Barrett getting kicked off, and then the court reconstituted with new liberal justices.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 14:03 (five years ago)

The SC itself gets to ultimately decide what is or is not constitutional,

Heh, and not even this point is constitutional. John Marshall in essence decreed it so in Marbury.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:06 (five years ago)

So after she gets confirmed today, realistically how quickly can they ram through something with ramifications for the election already in progress?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:19 (five years ago)

I would find it hilarious if a Dem Senate in 2021 decreased the number of justices to seven and removed Kavanaugh and Barrett

thomas and barrett plz

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:24 (five years ago)

Thomas is 72 and will retire before too long, Kav is young so he needs to go now before he has a chance to do a keg stand on the next 30 years of jurisprudence.

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:28 (five years ago)

The Keg Stand of Jurisprudence = Kav's memoir title.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:29 (five years ago)

Are U. of Wisconsin/YouGov reputable snake oil salesman?

Wisconsin -- Biden +9
Michigan -- Biden +10
Pennsylvania -- Biden +8

That would be the election right there.

clemenza, Monday, 26 October 2020 14:29 (five years ago)

removing existing judges WOULD hit a constitutional speed bump. article iii specifies that the justices "shall hold their offices during good behavior," which has long been interpreted as "for life."

changing THAT really would open up a checks-and-balances question - if the congress can just kick out justices it doesn't like by mere legislation (rather than the more onerous impeachment process) then the judiciary is nakedly a committee serving at the pleasure of the legislature and judicial review is replaced by judicial rubber-stamp with constant threat of removal. we could say that's not THAT far from where Mitch has put us but i think in terms of public opinion it'd be a MUCH harder uphill battle than just adding more justices.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 October 2020 14:42 (five years ago)

xpost to clemenza -- yep, I'm playing with the map and basically not seeing any way for Biden to lose if he takes those 3.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 26 October 2020 14:45 (five years ago)

every state should get a justice on the Supreme Court

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:46 (five years ago)

also each territory, and each international ally

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:47 (five years ago)

also, everyone in India

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:47 (five years ago)

I want over a billion people on the Supreme Court

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:47 (five years ago)

He said “polling with phones“ now “an obsolete method, especially in the era of cancel culture.”

what the fuck does "cancel culture" have to do with phone polling?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:53 (five years ago)

America: Over one billion justices served

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:54 (five years ago)

xpost People canceling their landlines?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 14:54 (five years ago)

100% has "cancel culture" mixed up with "wirecutting," lol

Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 October 2020 14:55 (five years ago)

oh okay, that makes sense. what a dumbass.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:56 (five years ago)

It has more to do with the vacant look in Kushner's eyes than it does to any real world phenomenon afaict.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2020 14:56 (five years ago)

rasmussen says trump is winning O NO!

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 October 2020 15:01 (five years ago)

at some point in the past four years Republican talking heads just started doing talking points Mad Libs

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 26 October 2020 15:01 (five years ago)

You gotta listen to Corey Lewandowski on this:
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/521646-state-of-the-race-cancel-culture-and-polling-dont-mix

If I ever got a call from a pollster (which I haven’t), I’d have no fear of answering honestly about which candidate earned my vote.

But not everyone is comfortable sharing what the left and their friends in the media and big institutions have deemed to be an invalid opinion. It can, and does, get you fired. Answering a pollster who called your phone, and knew your name, creates a record of your choice for president. There’s real risk in saying the name “Donald Trump” — someday, it could be used against you.

jaymc, Monday, 26 October 2020 15:03 (five years ago)

lol of course it would be an even stupider reason than i was imagining

Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 October 2020 15:03 (five years ago)

There’s real risk in saying the name “Donald Trump” — someday, it could be used against you.

to be honest, if i find out someone voted for donald trump, i do think they're a fucking idiot

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 October 2020 15:05 (five years ago)

so best not to mention that during a job interview i guess, because holy shit, it would be hard to avoid pulling out an airhorn and blasting it

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 October 2020 15:06 (five years ago)

Uh.

Rep. Denver Riggleman (R) on MTP re: Qanon : ‘these are people who think Lord of the Rings is a documentary’

— amy walter (@amyewalter) October 25, 2020

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 October 2020 15:15 (five years ago)

I want over a billion people on the Supreme Court

― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, October 26, 2020 10:47 AM bookmarkflaglink

"goddammit, another 500,000,001 - 499,999,999 decision"

Neanderthal, Monday, 26 October 2020 15:16 (five years ago)


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