"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

Don Jr. sez: America needs to know, this is some top-dollar toot!

Completely mishearing or misconstruing what someone said and then running with it--"you catch that, he's glad kids are separated from their parents, spread the word!"--is bush league stuff that should be restricted to right wing idiots, really frustrates me when liberals do it

I think it was easily misheard. I heard "good" at the time. But people need to let it go.

Nice "Don"/"Team Trump" jogger tho.

look, lots of people are saying he said it, i'm not ...i'm not , i can't say if he said it but people are saying, they're saying he said 'good'. listen to the crowd, lots of people talking about it.

Give Trump's Twitter team credit rn for finding the random 10,000-ish response Twitter polls that most certainly weren't targeted by Russian bots that show him winning the debate by a 9-1 margin to RT.

Biden’s stammer and his occasional word fumble don’t bother me at all now. They’re kind of an endearing character trait.

lol

This graph is still my favorite thing I've learned from something blatantly false Trump has repeated over and over pic.twitter.com/BrUVLnyppN

— Jake Lahut (@JakeLahut) October 23, 2020

Donald Trump is the most racist president in American history.

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) October 23, 2020

1) cats kill 2.4 billion birds a year? Can that be possible?
2) https://thehermitage.com/learn/mansion-grounds/slavery/

Even housecats allowed outdoors will rack up wildlife kills.

holy shit that's a lot of dead birds

https://abcbirds.org/article/kittycam-reveals-high-levels-of-wildlife-being-killed-by-outdoor-cats/

Your cuddly little boy that you spoil with treats will kill 2 birds a week for the hell of it (if allowed outdoors).

2.4 billion does seem like a lot

google says there's like 100m domestic cats about probably less than that stray, so yeah i guess if there's a total of 100m outdoor cats and they are all just straight up killing birds non-stop 2.4 billion that seems doable. good for them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380

birds are just the tip of the iceberg, they're fucking up the small land mammals

great, now we have to get rid of Trump AND cats

re: the lincoln project quote, biden tweeted it as "most racist president in modern history," which i think is undeniable

xxxp 100 million cats x 2 birds a month = 2.4 billion / yr

here's a few more dead birds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3-oKccq_8U&t=12s

I don't think I realized how many birds there are

That's because the wind killed them all.

Instant polls gave the debate to Biden by the same margins showing in the polls in general. CNN had Biden at 53% and Trump at 39%; Data Progress had Biden at 52% and Trump at 41%; US Politics had Biden at 52% and Trump at 39%.

Not bad for a doddering skeleton going up against a reality show star

"@arcuate: dude that's freaking cool as heck RT @realDonaldTrump wind turbine blades will slice 14 million birds and bats to death in 10 yrs

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 9, 2013

Save the bats! Vote Trump!

another video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaWn0qcRYFA

oh that one worked so does this now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3-oKccq_8U

Not to get too far from politics, but those numbers about cats are accurate, and it's not "good." It's actually Terrible for biodiversity.

Also in the US: "An estimated 600 million birds are killed every year from collisions with some of the country's largest skyscrapers, according to research from the Cornell Lab of Ornithology."

I think I was at a webinar talking about alternatives that allowed birds to recognise glass fronted buildings were there or were collision risks over teh summer.

Instant polls gave the debate to Biden by the same margins showing in the polls in general. CNN had Biden at 53% and Trump at 39%; Data Progress had Biden at 52% and Trump at 41%; US Politics had Biden at 52% and Trump at 39%.

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, October 23, 2020 3:48 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is likely true of almost every debate in history. People are not rational actors earnestly paying attention to the issues and keeping close score. They are irrational morons who make instinctual decisions that they then support with "facts" they pluck from the ether. Iow, viewers see what they want to see.

I heard some post debate talk talking about how you needed a playboo0k for teh trump conspiracy stuff if you weren't a major fox/4chan/whatver consumer

It seems this Mr Bob Dobalinksi is here to say that Biden does in fact know that his son has a business.

PBKR it's also the case that snap polls taken after debates can get quickly washed away by whatever media narrative springs up afterwards i.e. Gore sighing 'condescendingly' at Bush Jr during his answers. Viewers said Gore 'won', but within a week it was conventional wisdom that Gore had just imperilled his candidacy

"He used to be my moneygrip," Hunter Biden said of Mr. Dobalinski, "but then he stole my honeydip."

Imagine the damage a cat at the top of a wind turbine could do.

Honestly, who would have noticed if Bobalinski was in the audience? They could have all been Bobalinskis. Maybe "bobalinski" is just a dismissive nickname, like "jabroni."

rejected name for a McGuffin

Or the placeholder for a forgotten word. "Pass me that ... that ... that bobalisnki over there."

Bobulinski alleged that code names were used to disguise the identities of some individuals named in the emails. References to the "Big Guy" were actually about Joe Biden. Jim Biden, Joe Biden's brother, was referred to as "JB."

JBB= Jimmy Bob Biden
JJB= Jerry Jeff Biden
JJB= Jo Jo Biden
JBB= Juggalo Bro Biden

Say it loud
Say it proud
Bobulinski is in the crowd

A couple of Biden's better moments: 1) his response to the (quite good, I thought) question about "the talk." He addressed it directly, and showed he at least understood what that meant. Trump changed the subject within two seconds. (I wish he'd been asked first, something like "Explain what's meant by 'the talk.'" I think he would have been stuck for an answer. 2) I don't remember when or the context, but when Biden, using the split-screen, said something like "You know who I am, and you know who he is." Who's down with old Joe B? Yeah, you know me.

The two news reports I heard this morning (Canadian radio) both focused on their COVID responses, favorably contrasting Biden.

https://i.imgur.com/MMWf50s.jpg

the fact that the President promised a military-delivered vaccine within the few weeks and nobody takes him seriously is pretty damning

Early vote total now 50 million — 1/3 of the current projected overall vote, 1/4 of the general electorate.

wish Biden had refuted the "you built the cages" line which I thought was a particularly evil thing for Trump to say, even if there is some truth to it

I did think he was in a tricky spot with all the "why didn't you do this in the 8 years you had" stuff, obviously you don't wanna throw Obama under the bus (and he kinda did at one point) but also I don't know how effective the "oh we had a Republican Congress" stuff was. I mean it's true but idk if that's what you want to say to convince whoever the hell is still undecided since those are the rare creatures who think bipartisanship is actually a thing. When Trump said "well you gotta sell them on it", he was actually kinda right?

Pretty sure Obama is savvy enough to have reassured Biden before the debate, "Say what you need to say about me."

I know this point was made repeatedly last night including by me, but after sleeping on it, I wonder if people aren't still underrating the importance of the debate having been Trump's best remaining opportunity to climb back into the race and it seemingly having been squandered.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 23, 2020

Trump can win. It's mathematically possible that polls could be waayyy off or something could come from totally out of the blue. But there are also a lot of things working against him in the final 11 days. COVID cases are rising. He's way behind in $. And 50m have already voted.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 23, 2020

sounds like Nate doesn't have much faith in Tony Bobulinski

Tara Lipinski... Monica Lewinsky... Tony Bobulinski.

Coincidence? I say nay.

Not only was that his last high profile shot to turn things around (60 Minutes might have been had he not muffed it), but if the past five long years have been any indication, there is a very good chance he will do or say something terrible in the next week to make things worse.