TRUMP GOT COVID

Like when he did one of his dumb videos and ppl were like “he’s clearly scared to death” and there was no more emotion discernible in his piggy little eyes than usual

― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:25 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

God I hate that shit so much

― Evan, Sunday, October 18, 2020 1:21 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's almost over!!!

Several of Mike Pence's aides, including chief of staff, test positive for COVID-19

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/america-votes/2020/10/24/1_5159766.html

it's going to be p satisfying if the President gave the 'vid to the head of his anti-"vid task force, and the head of the task force still spends the next three months of the administration giving speeches about how the President has done incredibly at stopping the spread of the virus. Especially if he does so, gasping for breath, from a hospital bed.

So this was pretty much the worst possible outcome, no? Didn’t seem to impact him at all and he’s come out of it even more intent on denying the problem. It’s not as if I expected some dramatic 180, but I did have some small hope that facing the reality might at least slow him down on the rabid denialism.

Trump always doubles down on whatever his untenable position is.

"Surely ol' Donny Trump won't be able to wriggle out of THIS one!"

It's kinda admirable in a weird twisted way that he can invent a plane crash in which 500 people didn't die so he can complain about the media ignoring it in favour of reporting a virus in which 200,000 Americans did die and his rabid flock cheer along like it's truth to power.

Wonder if we will ever know exactly how bad his Covid was. Because if it was genuinely hospital-bad there’s a miracle cure out there that’s not getting talked about much.

Ignoring the plane crash is nothing compared to ignoring the 2M+ that would be dead right now if ol' Donny weren't on the case.

xp it’s aDrEn0ChR0mE + liberal tears

The sad reliability of the successful jam-wriggling is to a point where, looking back on this thread for instance, I'm legitimately concerned about what it's doing to the mental health of all the reasonable people that just want to see him go away. I'm not above it. I developed some anxiety issues due to the 2016 results. Since then I've seen a lot of emotional investment in every "this'll be it, surely" scandal that gets any momentum and I feel like it's really been taking its toll on people, but not the right people.

Yeah I’m fucking stunned that he’s somehow managed a different prognosis than every other obese senior that’s been hospitalized but maybe it was just a precautionary thing. It’s just so infuriating.

That said when you’re down 10 with 9 days left to go another Covid outbreak among your staff ain’t exactly ideal

I mean...it kinda makes one feel as if justice and comeuppance and karma might be entirely false constructs and maybe shittier people will increasingly take their cue from his example and just do whatever they feel because fuck it, what are consequences anyway

karma is a false construct, sorry folks

as with many religious concepts, karma has a kernel of truth around which much falsity has accreted

they spent $1,5m on treating him, he's been dosed up to the eyeballs, of course he's survived. but is he well?

Karma exists in fictional narratives where the universe punishes or rewards characters for poetically meaningful reasons. Things don't work out so conveniently in real life. Subconsciously expecting things to play out per the storytelling rules that drive a hit TV drama, especially when it affects our actual lives, just piles on more frustration and madness.

I dunno, I was legit happy and celebrating karma when David Koch died even while acknowledging the fact that there was still one brother left.

It's more the notion that the example of Trump suggests that there exists no corrective, be it cosmic or man-made or mystical, to the worst excesses of human behavior if the bad actor in question is willing to just go completely and unapologetically balls-out. This has been demonstrated time and again in terms of his general antisocial behavior but now he's casually skated through a degree of illness that's proven devastating to many who share his demographic makeup, seemingly thanks to sheer pigheaded belligerence and a consistent denial of basic science. This state of affairs is, I'm sure, a source of near-mystical inspiration to the sick fucks looking to this beast for inspiration. God help us all, every one.

The amount of evil David Koch accomplished in his lifetime couldn't possibly be balanced out by his death. Same with Trump and countless others. (But especially them.)

so where's the sympathy vote I kept hearing so much about?

xps: he's been dosed up to the eyeballs

I don't think he'd be dosed on corticosteroids indefinitely. Risk of opportunistic infections and more prolonged depression too high. I suspect the shift to less outrageous behavior in the final debate was less strategy, and more withdrawal.

But if the docs see fit to keep him on dexamethasone, I'm rooting for the microbial opportunists.

I’m surprised at people thinking it was some kind of crazy luck or feat of will that Trump survived. Even most overweight 74-year-olds who get it survive, especially if they are not facing an overwhelmed hospital system. Throw in top flight medical care and his odds were extremely good. I said this from the beginning. Other posters OTM about the dangers of the karma fantasy.

its not so much that I expected him to die from this, more that I thought he'd be like most hospitalized people where even getting out of bed is a huge struggle for weeks on end

It’s possible that he just didn’t have that bad a case. Hospitalized because President is different than hospitalized because severe.

i got real annoyed at my smug friends who said "he never had it" simply cos he demanded to go home earlier than doctors wanted and quite obviously was sick

On the other hand Melania obviously died of it and has been replaced

since yesterday's "fake" Melania, people have been posting other fake Melaniae from the last two years, & I'm one more pic away from being 100% a Melania truther

I think this was fundamentally different from all the "he'll be undone by political scandal x" stuff because those demanded a certain amount of faith in the american political system while this just demanded faith in the awfulness of a virus. But I guess even that ends up being so much more about socio-economic circumstances than anything else.

Wonder if we will ever know exactly how bad his Covid was. Because if it was genuinely hospital-bad there’s a miracle cure out there that’s not getting talked about much.

― stet, Sunday, 25 October 2020 19:16 (yesterday) link

I saw an interview where Fauci implied that the Regeneron might really have been the ticket.

President Donald Trump received the experimental Regeneron antibody therapy on Friday -- which may have helped him fight off the worst effects of Covid-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday.

“It very well could have been that,” Fauci told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.

Monoclonal antibodies are one of the potential coronavirus treatments that scientists are “really quite optimistic about,” Fauci said.

“We've had experience with other diseases,” he said. “Regeneron’s monoclonal antibody was one of the two types of antibodies that was very successful with Ebola and the very fact that it was successful in Ebola, another very serious viral infection, had us be cautiously optimistic that monoclonal antibodies, which are a very specific protein, right, that the body makes that you can produce in very large amounts and infuse it into an individual by an IV infusion, has the potential to really be something very, very important in the treatment of COVID-19 patients.”

It seemed like trump was selling something when he was hyping regeneron, and i guess he was, so people were understandably skeptical. But he did recover quite quickly after having low oxygen so it’s likely this antibody therapy is helpful.

The thing that convinced me about the fake Melanias is that in one of the videos Trump literally says "Melania... who is right here next to me..." in one of his Homer Simpson-level attempts at subterfuge.

Regeneron side effects seem awful: excessive sweat, bad skin, aggressive mood, uncontrollable bowel movements...

fauci also emphasized in another interview that many people recover spontaneously. we can't learn much from one person's recovery.

especially since they gave him multiple other drugs! useless.

It’s true

I know a 66 year old and a 75 year old who have antibodies but were never ill. They seem to have had asymptomatic cases.

The 75 year old was marginally ill—like a mild cold.

i'm a total melania truther. they've used this other melania before. melania 2.

If this is happening there isn’t a sinister reason behind it. She just hates being first lady and going places with her husband.

Like she didn’t move to the white house for a few weeks or months iirc.

yeah, i think that's right

I know we hate a "Melania HATES him" narrative BUT I MEAN pic.twitter.com/dpXKEOe2So

— Pa-skull 💀 (@WalnutDust) October 23, 2020

Does fake Melania get told to snub him to make it more convincing?

I think this was fundamentally different from all the "he'll be undone by political scandal x" stuff because those demanded a certain amount of faith in the american political system while this just demanded faith in the awfulness of a virus. But I guess even that ends up being so much more about socio-economic circumstances than anything else.

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 October 2020 11:29 (one hour ago) link

Of course but attention seekers on Twitter and click/ratings seekers in the media treat these things the same. They feed the hype and get people emotionally invested by constantly teasing the possibility of the most dramatic outcome. Plus the TV drama karma fallacy previously described applies either way.

Sorry, had to share this sick burn I just encountered

If Mitch McConnell’s hands get any blacker he won’t let them vote. pic.twitter.com/qYLmpFm2Ml

— Hoodlum 🇺🇸 (@NotHoodlum) October 24, 2020

Oops, wrong thread. Whatever.

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