"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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She, in true Nazi fashion, tried to limit large social gatherings and make people wear a mask to keep them from catching and spreading a deadly virus.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 October 2020 16:40 (five years ago)

they are just morons who like chantings "lock her up"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 October 2020 16:46 (five years ago)

The Azerbaijan/Armenia situation threatens to blow up into something enormous that destabilizes the entire Middle East and it's a shame it hasn't gotten more attention in the US. I see Pompeo finally said something weak about Turkey's involvement but I don't expect aa Trump admin or military will get involved and I suspect if they could it would be to side with Erdogan (apparently Iran is backing Armenia which is a major 'politics makes strange bedfellows' moment)

akm, Sunday, 18 October 2020 16:49 (five years ago)

It’s got a ton of coverage in LA because LA has like the third biggest Armenian population outside Armenia and Ukraine. There’s a story about it in the LA Times most days afaict. But yeah it’s under the radar everywhere else. I can’t imagine trump knows much about it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 October 2020 16:52 (five years ago)

Also lol presumably he’s seeing some internal polling

Oh my // Cornyn initially described his relationship with Trump as “maybe like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well.” https://t.co/YD3OVlJN3h

— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) October 18, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 October 2020 16:53 (five years ago)

"maybe like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well.”

that's a very strange thing to say. uhhh...why is it specifically women who do this and why doesn't it work out well for them?

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:00 (five years ago)

The Azerbaijan/Armenia situation has been front-page news in France nearly every day, but yeah in the usa that's just extended flyover country.

All cars are bad (Euler), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:05 (five years ago)

The Azerbaijan/Armenia situation threatens to blow up into something enormous that destabilizes the entire Middle East and it's a shame it hasn't gotten more attention in the US.

Honestly if it wasn't for Armenian American friends of mine I wouldn't've have known about it.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:08 (five years ago)

I mean, I know it's a fundraiser but why is Trump spending any time in California?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:13 (five years ago)

Thread from Nancy Pelosi’s least favorite LA council candidate explaining what’s up

LA is home to the largest population of Armenian people in the world outside of Armenia. Today, many are rightfully terrified by violent aggression from Azerbaijan and Turkey in the region of Artsakh.

Here's what's happening, and why we stand with Armenians. (thread)

— Nithya Raman (@nithyavraman) October 12, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:13 (five years ago)

xpost It's in Newport Beach, it's one of the few places that he would want to go to there, trust me.

If you want to put those Texas numbers upthread a bit in a further context:

Texas shatters another election record with 16.95 million registered voters https://t.co/9qtX3QjHx1

— Dallas Morning News (@dallasnews) October 17, 2020

Making the 3.9 million total of people who have already voted close to a 1/4 of the total electorate there. Pretty big!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:14 (five years ago)

I mean, I know it's a fundraiser but why is Trump spending any time in California?


$150,000/plate and they’re out of money.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:14 (five years ago)

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-18/trump-fundraiser-california basically this

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:16 (five years ago)

Yeah I've been trying a little to follow the Armenia/Azerbaijan thing and to an outsider it's extremely hard to tell what's going on or who to believe

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:24 (five years ago)

Is it really true that Republicans like voting on election day and ONLY election day? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this one.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:32 (five years ago)

(Biden) predicts that with Trump gone, "there's going to be, I promise you, between 4 and 8 Republican senators" willing to work with him.

If the Democrats take the Senate with at least 52 votes then this is probably a good prediction. If McConnell attempts to filibuster every bill he knows there's a very high chance the filibuster will be shitcanned.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:32 (five years ago)

Nobody’s ever tried to suppress their vote so it’s straightforward for them.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:33 (five years ago)

The Biden campaign got the Beastie Boys to license Sabotage for this new ad. https://t.co/RQZg7cpre3

— Josh Dorner (@JoshDorner) October 18, 2020

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:09 (five years ago)

Is it really true that Republicans like voting on election day and ONLY election day? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this one.


They vote the way the founding fathers intended, begging your boss to take off an hour from work.

Boring, Maryland, Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

Is it really true that Republicans like voting on election day and ONLY election day?

For quite a few elections early in this century Republican absentee ballots outnumbered Democrat absentee ballots and helped to swing some close elections. The Kool Aid that mail-in ballots are rife with fraud is just a little something Trump cooked up for this election, as a new means of vote suppression and to pre-justify litigation to invalidate large numbers of votes, especially from carefully selected locales.

The fact that he has been successful in selling this nonsense is a tribute to the gullibility of millions of Republicans who require zero evidence for anything Trump (or FOX news) says is true.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:20 (five years ago)

It used to be that everyone waited for the wave of absentee military votes to spill in for the GOP, but I'm not sure that trend is so secure anymore.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:29 (five years ago)

Good tweet

There is a suburban GOP-held House seat that Romney won by 15%+ and Trump won by 10%+. Today, at least two private surveys I've seen have Trump *down* 10%+ there.

In the past few weeks, I've heard the word "bloodbath" uttered in multiple convos w/ GOP pollsters/ad makers.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) October 18, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

thank god

treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:52 (five years ago)

"maybe like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well.”

that's a very strange thing to say. uhhh...why is it specifically women who do this and why doesn't it work out well for them?

― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, October 18, 2020 5:00 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh my jesus he really said that.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:53 (five years ago)

I have received 11 emails from the Trump campaign since last night, and 7 between Friday night and Saturday. I haven't read any of them, but the tone of the subject lines has gone from (over the months that I've been on the list) chest-beating confidence to blustery demanding-my-money to skittish pleading. They haven't gone full Gil-from-the-Simpsons yet, but by next week, who can say? I will say that the fact that they're still pounding on me, someone who has never given them a nickel, shows that they're basically turning over the couch cushions, endlessly re-tilling even the deadest soil in hope of grabbing anything at all. (N.B.: even after he got the rona, the emails offering the prospective donor the chance to "Meet Donald Trump!" never stopped.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:57 (five years ago)

the man's about to get wrecked

treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:59 (five years ago)

Apologies if this has been posted already, but this is the most comprehensive overview/explainer I've yet seen on what to anticipate in the coming couple of months, and should be widely shared. Fair warning, sobering stuff:

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1aqmM4xtwrQICCu5KldYePLf3Zk_TMzRo71wRvyPmLfk/mobilebasic?usp=gmail&gxids=7628

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:06 (five years ago)

xp to aimless

I get the Republican aversion to mail-in voting, but not to early voting. To me, it just seems like a matter of convenience and I don't get exactly why it would have a partisan bent.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:10 (five years ago)

Like is there really any reason to believe there's a massive republican movement to hold off on voting until election day?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:11 (five years ago)

xp hadrian, i hope that stuff doesn't happen.

someone on ilx said that we can throw cabbages at him until a giant cartoon cane from offstage comes in an pulls him away. in this process his wig may fly off his head as outlined in article 12 section 8 of the US Constitution.

treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:12 (five years ago)

Apologies if this has been posted already

I saved it off to my local computer to read later. thx.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:16 (five years ago)

xp well yeah, the thrust of it is we should avoid "hoping" it won't happen, but rather be fully prepared for it to happen, and to rest assured that in the event of any outcome short of a landslide, the opposition will stop at nothing to take the office by litigation, not to mention faithless electors.

I think the dates are important to understand and good to have organized like this.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:17 (five years ago)

I do worry that the lessons of 2000 still haven't permeated.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:20 (five years ago)

i'm glancing over it now

treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:25 (five years ago)

blue texas would be an amazing thing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:48 (five years ago)

Yes, it would. It's quite a long shot, but also the outcome I want more than anything else in this election.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:55 (five years ago)

My wife voted early in-person.

I am still intending to vote on the day, partly because of sentimentality and tradition, partly because I am still a little spooked about shenanigans and/or malarkey.

(This despite voting in what is among the bluest places in the universe - like 80% D.)

they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:08 (five years ago)

every vote counts when you're running up the score

treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:30 (five years ago)

i don't mean to jinx it, but it feels good right now

treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:30 (five years ago)

I wouldn't call it a total sign but: my dad, a generally conservative fellow in temperment but never rabidly right-wing, religiously or otherwise, never liked Trump from the get-go, and has been looking forward to voting him out. In talking with him on the phone today, though, I would say he's upped his feelings to a strong degree, complaining about GOP voter suppression tactics (which on top of his anger with the police after this year's horrors is quite honestly a shift I never really expected to hear) and generally conveying how ready he was to be done with the election. He's already sent in his ballot but there was a really vivid sense at how much he just loathed Trump. Now, he's one of those seniors that Biden is happily relying on, of course -- will turn 80 in December -- and again, it wasn't like he had done some complete 180. But as a measure of how much someone has been, however unintentionally, pushed to a particular place he might not have always found himself on a wider level, I do think his story is less anecdotal and more like a wider tendency playing out.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:43 (five years ago)

Bingo. My dad is a former 80s-90s conservative who is now just more a mild anti-PC curmudgeon who went from not-liking Trump but thinking he was treated unfairly in 2016 to wishing him dead in 2020.

Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:50 (five years ago)

This means Biden is going to support it. Coons is on the right of the party and wants a cabinet position.

Not only is Coons an institutionalist and a comparatively moderate Democrat, he’s also a member of Biden’s inner circle.

This feels like a big deal. https://t.co/VgQ1uEdarS

— B’’H (@mikeyfranklin) October 18, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:54 (five years ago)

Coons is the worst sort of hack, so this is a big deal.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:56 (five years ago)

they have to. a 6 - 3 court will overturn any liberal legislation they pass. it's not just flashpoint issues like roe v. wade, literally anything that impinges on the "freedom" of corporations will be struck down.

treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:59 (five years ago)

please let it be true

I will be very surprised

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 20:59 (five years ago)

"My mind is open but we just couldn't convince Joe Manchin/Kyrsten Sinema/etc."

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:02 (five years ago)

o hai
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2020/10/14/sen-kyrsten-sinema-opposes-court-packing-some-democrats-want/3645042001/

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:05 (five years ago)

Opponents are correct in that "court packing" will likely destroy the Supreme Court, or at least spark some sort of constitutional crisis. Just the practicalities of it are hard to fathom. How many more justices do you appoint? And what happens further down the road, does the GOP just start appointing justices? How many? I have no idea how it all plays out, but the intent and behavior of the GOP over the last few decades doesn't leave a lot of room for alternatives. Can a justice be removed? I know it's never been done, right? Seems that packing the court could force opponent's hands and make them concede term limits, at the very least.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:07 (five years ago)

Josh the supreme court has already been destroyed.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:11 (five years ago)

Yeah that is noteworthy, esp w Coons being from DE. Sure the voters there are generally going to go Dem, but the corporations that are domiciled there and fund Coons probably don’t have any real issues w ACB at all, I’d venture even excited at a 6-3 court that will overturn any sort of progressive legislation.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:13 (five years ago)


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