The dates line up...
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link
...and the players line up, so...
So this is Al Kooper and Bloomfield and Bobby Gregg?
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link
That’s a pretty solid day on the job
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
No. on the first two, yes on the third.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
Hmmm
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 03:11 (three years ago) link
It's a trick question, in a way.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link
There were two days of sessions for that other song, you see.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link
Stumped. Some here disputing that date in the first place (?)
https://www.forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-sound-of-silence-a-timeline.756190/page-4
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Ah, thanks, great work! They may well be right. I had exactlythe same feeling about the date. I saw it on Wikipedia and circulated around but found no original interview. Maybe somebody had the same theory I did and reverse engineered the date. The thing that never made sense is that players didn't line up.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
It's not really *that* less cool that some days intervened...still p wild that these things were happening in the same building w Wilson's intuition and some happy accidents
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
otm
― budo jeru, Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
So anyway, the first unsuccessful day of recording of "Like a Rolling Stone" was June 15th, 1965. On that day, Al Gorgoni, who had also played on Bringing It All Back Home was on the session, as was Bobby Gregg, although Al was not there for the recording of the released version on the next day. Al has gone on record is saying he and Vinnie Bell played on the "The Sound of Silence" overdub, and Vinnie Bell has stated that he played on it as well. There is conflicting web information about who the rhythm section was Bobby Gregg and Bob Bushnell vs Buddy Saltzman and Joseph "Joe Mack" Macho, Jr. or some cross section thereof.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/who-plays-bass-sounds-of-silence.145605/
Right, it's not like it's a 180 degree falsehood. It's kind of a near miss that could have happened, a scene the screenwiters compressed for The Tom Wilson Story.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
https://sites.google.com/site/underappreciatedrockguitarists/home/the-pantheon/somewhat-appreciated-items-2/al-gorgoniThis guy has Joe Mack and Buddy Saltzman.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
Seems like the Wikipedia page went through some edits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AThe_Sound_of_Silence
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
Thank you for going down this rabbit hole with me, guys.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
The other thing is, most of the studios were pretty close together so one might not have to go far from one gig to another. Not only that, the guitarists banded together into something called the Manhattan Guitar Club so that they could share amps and keep them in locked rooms at each studio that they all had the keys to.https://wallyrichardson.com/2014/02/10/manhattan-guitar-club-1969/
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
I’d like to poll that roster
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
Or maybe the keys were in the amp!
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
https://reverb.com/item/16520302-1960-s-ampeg-manhattan-guitar-club-amp-switch-key-rare
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link
What to do if you didn’t have a key.https://www.vintageguitar.com/24625/buzz-feiten/
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
Anyway, if that story in Homeward Bound is true, then because of the timing of when Tom Wilson was producing Dylan and the presence of Al Gorgoni, then that is the only date and session it could be. But that story doesn’t have to be true.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link
https://enochlight.wordpress.com/interviews/33-2/
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
If you weren’t a member of The Manhattan Guitar Club, you’d have to slip the second engineer a joint. He’d unlock the amp, and you’d do the session. Those amps sounded fantastic.
fantastic
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link
Another list: https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/quiz-what-do-these-guitar-players-have-in-common.1857795/
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link
Okay this is particularly good for at least two, no three, reasons. https://njjs.org/files/2018/4604%20web%20archive%20files/4604_JerseyJazzFullIssue.pdf1) There is discussion about a present day gig of MGC member Gene Bertoncini.2) Bill Crow tells the "jazz guitar famous" episode involving Segovia.3) At the bottom of the roster the text says
Emergency Ignition Key Available At Jim and Andys.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB15UFO5ebA&ab_channel=Netflix
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
I just quit
What happened?Bill Crow's column also mentions Bill Wurtzel, who I consider an honorary member of that club. Which I will get into on the new thread, if I ever start it!
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
Oh, I see. No, not that.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
A guy on the other forum also drank the June 15th Kool-Aid. http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/dylan-blonde-on-blonde-that-thin-wild-mercury-sound-daryl-sanders-book-oct-2018.781426/page-7
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link
Somebody else gave me a citation on the SoS/LaRS connection saying it didn’t go down that way.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link
Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKFejT3wLTE
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link
DO U SEE?
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link