"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

my cursory investigation seems to indicate the last presidents who really liked to put it away (not counting Bush 2, since he was sober by the time he was in office) were Kennedy, and prior to that, possibly FDR.

dunno why but I assumed Johnson was a big drinker. He looks like one.

Call me crazy but I kinda would prefer it if the President was not drinking a lot of alcohol, even Trump (who looks like he's taking other stuff anyway)

Such parades might reassure timid or discouraged Trump voters looking on that it's worth voting, but the participants in the parade were sure as shit going to vote for Trump, come hell or high water. It's just their way of celebrating themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYvA1Mh363c

LBJ liked his Cutty Sark. Ford championed the three-martini lunch until Betty admitted her alcoholism.

FDR drank; unfortunately, no one else could drink his vermouth-heavy martinis.

There are various accounts of Nixon drinking heavily his last year in office.

Call me crazy but I kinda would prefer it if the President was not drinking a lot of alcohol, even Trump (who looks like he's taking other stuff anyway)

for perhaps obvious reasons, ford's term marked the last presidency where drinking heavily might be reasonably culturally acceptable.

to wit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnD4dEt1bng

David Gergen* = or whoever used to chatter on cable news about how ‘bipartisanship’ got done in the good ol days.


note: I’d prefer the Dems/ left become hyper-focused dead-eyed psychopaths intent on universal healthcare and free college

Reading up a little bit more, sounds like Nixon was drunk regularly, but that that didn't require much alcohol in his case (as little as a single drink).

"I kinda would prefer it if the President was not drinking a lot of alcohol" yeah me too, I don't want someone with that kind of decision making power having blackouts

I have a theory the story of Dubya passing out while choking on a pretzel was likely a silly cover story for falling off the wagon.

Hm. This went up a couple days ago.

I do remember Obama, a professor, and a cop staggering around the Rose Garden during some televised beer-bong party.

when you're going to throw an undeserved Score Settling party for a racist cop while being photographed from 150 ft away

make it an o'douls

for perhaps obvious reasons, ford's term marked the last presidency where drinking heavily might be reasonably culturally acceptable.

iirc the beer that Obama drank at the Beer Summit was a homebrew from the WH kitchen, a honey wheat ale.

During the pre-COVID days I was reluctant to brunch because it left nothing for me to look forward to later in the day or early evening.

On many Saturdays pre-COVID I would often get two entrees for brunch along with 4-5 strong beers (not guinness lol) and have a healthy nap afterwards.

it’s a marathon imo

xp

presidents should smoke weed, maaan

(not really joking)

JFK Jr set to be revealed as Trumps running mate today

We once BANNED the stuff for an entire decade (a ban that FDR himself apparently did not heed, according to several accounts), and boozy brunches are still a huge thing among all demographics for which the activity is legal.

Re: Trump parade, Bucks had always had its vile white supremacist element. From my knowledge, it's about half the county, and probably will be until the Northeast creep continues...(that is, until the increasingly Black and non-white Hispanic population of NE Philly moves to the burbs). Other than South Jersey, Bucks is certainly the most racist part of the Philly metro.

tbf one of the things that made me like Warren was her affinity for grabbin beers

If abortions were a for profit, lucrative industry, Republicans would rebrand it with another term, sell a concierge version to rich people, and promote the fuck out of it.

Same reason why they'd never go back and ban beer again

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-harry-truman-ran-a-bourbon-soaked-white-house

One of the small stories in Nixonland or the Invisible Bridge has a drunk Nixon on the end of his tether wandering the halls of the White House ranting at Presidential portraits.

Pretty much the basis of this film:

https://www.criterion.com/films/955-secret-honor

hell yeah Philip Baker Hall. I’ve been meaning to check this out for a minute

Nixon used to duck out to Trader Vic's and down a couple of Navy Grogs.

lol of course alfred is ILX's source for every 20th c. president's martini habits

and why not indeed

presidents should smoke weed, maaan

(not really joking)

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, October 17, 2020 1:50 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Jimmy Carter's son Chip smoked weed at the White House with Willie Nelson.

https://time.com/4342019/drunk-president-history/

The President drank Cutty Sark scotch and soda out of a large white plastic foam cup. Periodically, Johnson would slow down and hold his left arm outside the car, shaking the cup and ice. A Secret Service agent would run up to the car, take the cup and go back to the station wagon. There another agent would refill it with ice, scotch, and soda as the first agent trotted behind the wagon. Then the first agent would run the refilled cup up to LBJ’s outstretched and waiting hand, as the President’s car moved slowly along.

oh, man, I do that too!

People who have figured out how to live ...

Pretty much the basis of this film:

https://www.criterion.com/films/955-secret-honor

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, October 17, 2020

just watched Secret Honor a few nights ago!

Drunk Nixon is also front and center for the last half-hour of Oliver Stone's film. (Drunk Pat, too, in at least one scene.)

Ulysses S. Grant to thread

The White House was opened to all for a post-inaugural reception and was filled by the public even before Jackson arrived on horseback.[1] Soon afterward, Jackson left by a window[1][4] or a side entrance,[5] and proceeded to Gadsby's Hotel in Old Town Alexandria, Virginia. The crowd continued to descend into a drunken mob, only dispersed when bowls of liquor and punch were placed on the front lawn of the White House.[4] "I never saw such a mixture," said Joseph Story, then a justice of the Supreme Court: "The reign of King Mob seemed triumphant."[1] The White House was left a mess, including several thousand dollars worth of broken china.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_inauguration_of_Andrew_Jackson

is Oliver Stone's Nixon bonkers in a bad or in an amusing way?

It's one of my favourite films; I am way, way in the minority on that one. The first warning I always give is that have to be able to accept Anthony Hopkins' not-really-Nixon performance; if you can't get past that--to the point where he becomes one of the film's fascinations--forget it.

"you have to be able"

MSNBC making sure per final-word expert guest on the subject that the public knows QAnon followers are "not gullible and not stupid"

what I ask would a gullible person look like

narrator: they were gullible and stupid

It's like calling a chinchilla gullible and stupid, is I think what he meant. N/A.

Checking in to see JFK Jr. made his appearance.