"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

Call me crazy but I doubt Joe was completely unaware of Hunter's entire life and career. Bad dad if so, IMO.

he isn't in charge of him. hunter biden was in his 40s when this happened.

Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it.

Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it.

Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it.

Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it.

yeah, this is bogus

yeah why is that the evidence? why not the fact that hunter's emails were allegedly on the device.

Wait -- have y'all seen evidence this NY Post story has taken off?

yeah, that's why I mentioned its placement on the Drudge page--far below a ton of Trump stories. I mean it gets top billing on Brietbart...

Personally I just see the dispiriting, predictable trail of this. The laptop shit is fake and/or a nothingburger, but Trump keeps yelling about it on his death march campaign tour and the media keeps reporting on his anger about it in a way that manages to effectively erase the meaningful difference between it being real or fake for the not insignificant number of absolute morons that populate our country.

Basically, to Trump it doesn't matter. The self-generating Facebook olds outrage machine is cranked up and get gets to yell about it at his rallies, beyond that he doesn't give a shit how real it is.

2016 isn't 2020, and Trump is the incumbent.

keep up the despair, y'all!

People are voting as we worry about Breitbart's placement of the story and the president yelling hoarsely about it on Thursday.

taking off on Breitbart/Drudge/Post does not = "taking off" IMO.

there are tons of stories that circulate in right wing spheres that never hit mainstream or do and then have the impact of a damp fart. (I know cos I'm sadistic enough to keep up with their lunacy).

whereas Comey's memo was national news and it landed on the Friday before an election, so there was no way to escape its fumes.

Speaking of which, the count is about to hit 15 million even sooner than I figured -- Elections Project has it at 14,945,734 less than an hour ago.

good lord.

yeah, comey had more standing in 2016 than mr. john paul isaac has in 2020. when comey trashed clinton, it had an impact.

I almost wonder if it would reach 16 million by some point this evening. Which isn't out of the bounds of possibility as reports come in, and would mean ramping up the projected numbers accordingly. Essentially almost one-third of the early vote total of 2016 has occurred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5a5wHV8SC0

The issue is also really easy to avoid - if you know that your side is held to a stricter standard, don't do even minor corruption.

I'm still confused - what corruption did Joe Biden do again?

Call me crazy but I doubt Joe was completely unaware of Hunter's entire life and career. Bad dad if so, IMO.

I won't call you crazy but boy howdy are you full of shit. How are you not embarrassed to post this rubbish?

Just to be clear, I don't at all mean to insinuate that this is going to swing the election at this point, but I'm just not feeling super confident about laughing things that shouldn't matter off. Given, y'know, the last four or five years of American politics.

milo, do you blame your grandfather for stuff your uncle does, or whatever?

So NY Times, Wash Post, etc are FAKE NEWS but NY Post is always to be believed what a world what a world

to Ned's post, this seems like an extension of 2018. people (on all aisles) are fired up, pissed, and want to take care of the vote early. and more are voting by mail than previously.

promising. hoping Trump voters filled out their early mail ballots in crayon

Meanwhile in 'well yeah, *shrug*' news

#BREAKING: @MassGovernor releases statement saying “he “cannot support Donald Trump for President” #wcvb pic.twitter.com/SPV2MY0ykh

— Sharman Sacchetti (@SharmanTV) October 14, 2020

I initially read the 'Mass' as 'Miss' as in Mississippi and thought "Okay THAT is news," but alas.

to Ned's post, this seems like an extension of 2018. people (on all aisles) are fired up, pissed, and want to take care of the vote early.

Right, and the best argument I'm seeing -- which I agree with -- is that while both sides are riled up the numbers break towards Biden overall.

Ole Mass.

that's what it appears like too and what i'm hoping for.

I won't call you crazy but boy howdy are you full of shit. How are you not embarrassed to post this rubbish?

It's not rubbish to think that it's bad for scions of the powerful to make money from their last name.

milo, do you blame your grandfather for stuff your uncle does, or whatever?

If my uncle gets a job because of his access to my grandfather and my grandfather doesn't tell him to knock that shit off, yes, both are in the wrong.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/hunter-bidens-legal-socially-acceptable-corruption/598804/

It's not rubbish to think that it's bad for scions of the powerful to make money from their last name.

That's not what you said - you said Joe Biden was committing fraud. Now you're saying he's guilty by association. You're moving the goalposts again, like you always do.

i'm going to be voting for biden tomorrow because i support progressive policies

Where did I say Biden was committing fraud? Or "guilty" of anything?

go start a church or something, probably a better place to tell people what to abhor

you annoying fuckin weirdo

Where did I say Biden was committing fraud? Or "guilty" of anything?

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:23 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The issue is also really easy to avoid - if you know that your side is held to a stricter standard, don't do even minor corruption.

I've seen a couple of posts here and there wondering why the early voting numbers aren't even higher but I think people seem to forget sometimes that ballots wildly vary from place to place, and that it's never as simply as just a presidential vote. But even with a basic baseline -- you're always going to be voting for president and your district representative to Congress each time no matter what (state reps can vary, note how Virginia is 'off' a year each time) -- it's everything else on top of that that could appear which makes it complex. There could be senators, there could be a full state election, etc, and that's not to mention everything else even more local. Living in SF as I do I didn't just have the various state propositions to consider but the city ones as well, almost the same in overall number. It can take time to sort it all out! I've figured out my vote and filled out my ballot and will be walking it up to the City Hall dropoff point here in the next few days, as direct a way I can do this as any.

Yes, that sentence does not refer to Biden at all. It refers to the idea that Democrats are held to a higher standard (ie "but Trump's children do worse everyday and it doesn't matter!') so they have to stay cleaner.

Hillary using a private e-mail server was bad. Ivanka and Jared and untold thousands of other people in powerful governmental positions doing the same is also bad. Only one of those hurt anyone, and it was the Democrat. This isn't football, there aren't offsetting fouls.

will be walking it up to the City Hall dropoff point

Bill Graham Auditorium

You're welcome, I just saved you a few minutes walk.

I have to start working on my ballot, I see that there are 13(!) local ballot measures. I plan to walk it down there as well

xpost -- I mean yeah but one block over within clear eyesight. Call it the Civic Center dropoff if you like.

Ok but we are yet to see if the press covers the laptop thing like they did Hillary’s emails. More likely the reaction will be “trump got him himself impeached for this crap?”

(Kinda funny: the vote dropoff in early March for the primary was one of the last 'normal' things I did around here, along with a couple of shows that week, going out for a birthday dinner, etc. Seems very, very distant now.)

Texas surpassed 1 million votes on first day of early voting https://t.co/ipOgoLjAAi pic.twitter.com/nDMWTql3gx

— 😱 Endless Zoom Meeting 😱 (@AdamSerwer) October 14, 2020

early voting numbers might also not be higher because there has been pretty strong messaging to democrats to vote in person, if you can, so your mail-in votes can't be invalidated

i thought early voting numbers were also counting early in-person voting as well as mail-in?

oh, to clarify, "in person" also means "on Election Day," basically to keep your vote as far away as possible from anything that might be fucked with

(at least that's why I'm voting in person on Election Day, not that my vote matters where I am)

i thought early voting numbers were also counting early in-person voting as well as mail-in?

Yes, the Elections Project numbers I'm sharing count both mail and early in-person. You can always follow along here:

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

the email address that supposedly sent stuff to Hunter Biden was &quo✧✧✧.pozhars✧✧✧.ukra✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧". Makes sense, cause when I do my shady emails to my Mexican cronies I use my &quo✧✧✧.dain✧✧✧.estadosuni✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧" account.

My mail ballot should be here in the next few days. My plan is to drop it off at a drop box not too far from where I live. I feel slightly guilty about not voting in person on election day, but I'm also super worried about something happening that day to prevent it.