"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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tbf i doubt she's a fan of the dropped rape charge, but she probably likes what a complete nothing go-along-to-get-along he is as a politician. this is presumably why he's piled up local LA endorsements too.

he will never make the leap to state/national politics, and pelosi likes it that way when the alternative is raman, who will be california's AOC in five years time if she gets on the council.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 06:31 (five years ago)

Is there anybody around who could replace Pelosi and be more progressive while still able to muster her party together.

I mean sooner or later both her and Schumer are going to need to be replaced.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:16 (five years ago)

Dianne Feinstein's a young up-and-comer from the same city as Pelosi

Covidiots from UHF (sic), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 07:32 (five years ago)

Pelosi has been busy today tbf, also endorsing David Ryu for City Council in Central LA


it really is fucking gross. sent Nithya $25 earlier today.

he will never make the leap to state/national politics, and pelosi likes it that way


sorry but she really is just awful. I will never understand leadership Dems and their sclerotic deathgrip on power. the GOP honestly is just better at focusing on and delivering their longterm goals, recognizing their project is bigger than their dopey personal brand or whatever the fuck.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 09:08 (five years ago)

dopey personal brand

obv doesn’t really cover it. at the end of the day it all comes down to jerking off the richest and most powerful, and I guess old school GOP leadership had no concerns about the tea party Young Gunz keeping their daddy’s happy.

contrast that with progressives under the age of 60 and how they feel about these cool guys:

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/nancy-pelosi/contributors?cid=N00007360&cycle=2020

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 09:18 (five years ago)

Please god, please please please encourage Trump to fire Barr for declining to press charges over this unmasking shit. We know he's both petty and stupid enough to do so. All it will take is one little nudge from you, god.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 12:37 (five years ago)

God shrugs.

What I hope happens is that after the election the Dem voters and activists (mainstream and well as farther left) don't take their foot off the gas and keep up this enthusiasm for every election, no matter who is president or in leadership or whatever. Just keep chipping away at the Republicans, who have gotten where they are by way of chicanery and complacency.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 12:41 (five years ago)

Ballot counted!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:00 (five years ago)

How do you know?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:06 (five years ago)

MN ballot tracker said mine has been accepted and will be counted

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:10 (five years ago)

I voted by mail in Tennessee (cause I'm overseas innit) but I have no idea how to find out if it got counted.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:18 (five years ago)

Congrats and kudos to all ILX voters.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oKHWikxKFJhjArSXm/200.gif

Walter Draggedman (stevie), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:19 (five years ago)

xpost does this do it? https://tnmap.tn.gov/voterlookup/

or does that only track the ballot getting to you?

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:20 (five years ago)

wtf NBC is giving Trump his own town hall? The same time slot as the Biden one that Trump backed out of? What a bunch of assholes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:20 (five years ago)

Wait, competing town halls on different networks?

How hard is Trump going to piss himself when Biden's ratings are better?

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:22 (five years ago)

Look for Trump to claim a big ratings victory over Biden after their concurrent town halls on Thursday.

The way ratings work, it's basically guaranteed. Trump's on NBC, MSNBC & CNBC; Biden only on ABC. Nielsen ratings don't include streaming. https://t.co/Ano78Pzs63

— Michael M. Grynbaum (@grynbaum) October 14, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:24 (five years ago)

lol are they really trying to push a "Biden's secret emails" story right now?

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:25 (five years ago)

2020 is 2016 again

Walter Draggedman (stevie), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:30 (five years ago)

Play the hits

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:31 (five years ago)

Is there anybody around who could replace Pelosi and be more progressive while still able to muster her party together.

I mean sooner or later both her and Schumer are going to need to be replaced.

― Stevolende, Wednesday, October 14, 2020 2:16 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Is there any evidence that Pelosi and Schumer are especially effective at mustering their parties together? That's not a rhetorical question, but I just don't get the best impression of either of them, and Pelosi in particular seems more concerned with tamping down the left wing of the party than growing the democrats' power (although I guess she'd argue those are interconnected)

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:33 (five years ago)

wow Neanderthal that works! Wild. Thank you. I only needed my name, county and last 4 digits of my SS#.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:33 (five years ago)

This is so fucking stupid

1. I'm going to go through a few issues with the NY Post article on Biden, which I won't link to, but you will probably see on Twitter today.

Follow along if interested.

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 14, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:33 (five years ago)

Wait, how did Jacob Wohl arrange this glaringly-transparent laptop scam, I thought he was in jail

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:42 (five years ago)

lmao he's so fucking stupid

pic.twitter.com/wJN4zv0y8O

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2020

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:45 (five years ago)

I probably shouldn't say this but ... I hope Young Sheldon wins the time slot in a landslide.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:46 (five years ago)

Sick burn, there, Donnie.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:48 (five years ago)

It'll be funny if during the dual town halls they just start following the other one live on a screen. "Oh wait what's he saying now...ha look at that guy..."

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:49 (five years ago)

sent my mail-in ballot just now.

also got a mailer from Trump somehow. wrote "RETURN TO SENDER - FUCK YOU" on it and sent it back.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:50 (five years ago)

That tweet is remarkable. He should definitely--above and beyond the fact it's a group that I think supported him last time--target seniors. Especially seniors in wheelchairs. (That's really a legitimate tweet?)

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:52 (five years ago)

Okay, photoshop, got it...that I had to ask probably says something about Trump.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:53 (five years ago)

How do you know?

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand),

Florida has a tracking website.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:54 (five years ago)

I do hope everyone realizes rn that Trump is absolutely going to win in the ratings and that will be the October surprise that completely shifts this race.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:55 (five years ago)

A+ tweet, so happy to see Donnie hellbent on going out with a suicidal bang.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:56 (five years ago)

xpost for a second I thought Iago Galdston was back

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 13:59 (five years ago)

That tweet is a story, as I'd expect it would be, even for Trump.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:03 (five years ago)

that's a great tweet if you need to win back the over-65 demo, well-played Trump

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:25 (five years ago)

He's doing very little this time around to dissuade from the (now m/l proven) notion that he never intended to win a presidential election.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:31 (five years ago)

ok lets all shit our pants to something new: US Politics November 2020

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:31 (five years ago)

lol

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:33 (five years ago)

Voters 65+ indeed strongly supported Trump in 2016, 53-44% (over a quarter of all voter).

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

Short of an add mocking people with MAGA hats, I don't know if he could self-immolate any more spectacularly.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:35 (five years ago)

He's doing very little this time around to dissuade from the (now m/l proven) notion that he never intended to win a presidential election.

― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:31 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've never bought this. He absolutely cannot stand to lose. A guy who didn't really want to win wouldn't be campaigning this hard on the mend from COVID, he'd use it as an excuse to take a break. He may have completely lost any bearings he once had about what it would actually take to win, but he can't handle losing.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:36 (five years ago)

he's always got his "Biggest Turd in White House Toilet" trophy

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:36 (five years ago)

I think both are true, as others have pointed out. He desperately wants to win the presidency; he just doesn't want to be president (or at least the mundane, doing-stuff part of the job).

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:37 (five years ago)

Will Biden have the guts to say ‘you’re fired’ on Nov 4?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:38 (five years ago)

xposts He's campaigning hard in a very Bialystockian manner.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:39 (five years ago)

xp the only reason I argue that point is that I'm tired of seeing that sort of passive liberal rationalization. The subtext of "he doesn't want to win" is "I don't have to worry about him winning." Admittedly, the polling is not looking good for Trump right now, but falsely crediting that to "he wants to lose" is a dangerous way to think about it imo.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:41 (five years ago)

honestly what does worrying about him winning help, anyway? i guess if it spurs you to join a phone bank or something, but I figure the people who do that were already going to.

worrying = suffering twice, Trump still does have a chance to win, but I ain't worrying about it for the next 3 weeks.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:43 (five years ago)

The subtext of 'he doesn't want to win' in 2016 was 'he wants to parlay this hype into some other venture i.e. The Trump News Network' and in 2020 it's 'the rest of his life is going to be a miserable shit slog if he doesn't manage to keep his ass planted in the seat of power'. It's not a passive liberal rationalization, it's a recognition that he does not and never did want the actual job (although he's very happy to accept the trappings of said job).

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:44 (five years ago)

Yeah he clearly wants to win, he just has zero ability to learn anything or change his strategy. being an insufferable dick worked for him his entire life.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:47 (five years ago)

in 2016, speaking for me personally only, I bought into the narrative that he had no chance because I (naively) thought it was impossible that America could be stupid enough to vote in a reality show star as President, and the "grab em by the pussy" thing happened, but the polls never really matched my overconfidence; was definitely tighter, plus i hadn't yet learned how much this shit literally didn't affect his standing.

there was that pic of him looking shook in that meeting with Obama, I think he was freaked to win.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:47 (five years ago)


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