ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

yeah stet i don't mean it's a secret master plan i just think this is a government torn between factions representing different brands of ignorance and stupidity

the amount of time, money, public goodwill and human life they’ve wasted is staggering, really

i mean surely, at some point, some kind of media narrative that reflects this screamingly obvious fact might emerge? unless nothing matters lol

yeah they've even confirmed it today with the "sage advises ministers decide" thing when "we're following the science" was their last defence against charges of that. perfect-storm level stupid now xp

don’t make me post the spinning words xp

the amount of time, money, public goodwill and human life they’ve wasted is staggering, really.

^ Yeah, this.

It feels like an unforgivable situation (as distinct from "the government did everything they could to protect everybody but it didn't work").

herd immunity without a vaccine has been a red herring from the start

when any cunt speaks of a herd immunity strategy they mean sacrificing the elderly and the weak (and the unlucky) at the altar of capitalism

99ish % of us will survive and that's enough for some

I've seen that "99% will survive" statistic on Twitter tonight, very much in a "Fuck that one per cent" sort of way.

Any firm numbers yet on what proportion of us will have long term or permanent debilitating after effects and what the knock on effect on the economy will be?

99% of people will survive *if* there isn't an uncontrolled epidemic because that depends on hospitals being able to cope.

hmmm i wonder if tolerating the death of 1% of the population might have other applications?

Luckily we can rely on the brave and dogged media to... ah well, nevertheless

Senior govt source says... jump in the air pic.twitter.com/WsmJS3o8SY

— Andi (they/them) (@InductiveStep) October 13, 2020

gnnnnggghhhhh

"Keir Starmer is a shameless opportunist" .. completely correct up to this point tbf.

Oh god while channel hopping I've just seen the shameless cunt doing his press conference with the slogan "A New Leadership" across his podium

Never vote

He doesn't react to the UK having the worst mortality rate in Europe during a pandemic, he doesn't seem to make much noise about the inadequacies of Rishi's furlough schemes and those millions that fall through the gaps of it into abject poverty. But as soon as Labour start falling in the polls and his approval rating is in decline - the cunt shits his pants. He's a fucking waste of space.

It's not a high bar that https://t.co/xrESS2wPmm

— Stephen Smith (@SteveNickSmith) October 13, 2020

it's not even a bar, it's the ground!

Kier Starmer. Well timed, well delivered, and absolutely right. My guess is a significant majority of voters, regardless of party loyalty, will back him on a 2-3 week circuit breaker.

— Tony Robinson (@Tony_Robinson) October 13, 2020

it's going down well with his natural constituency tho :0===

Highest daily deaths since June but the LOTO is the gambler.

Very much reminded of Starmer's intervention on extending the eviction ban at the end of August.

Came within days of the deadline and likely with knowledge the Tories were about to extend it regardless.

Tonight seems a similar story.

— Disabled People's Lives Matter 🇵🇸 (@LamentablyAwake) October 13, 2020

No shortage of right wing professors in universities then

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/oct/13/white-working-class-pupils-suffering-due-to-status-deficit-mps-told

Absolutely despise that book eating prick. A lesser D0uglas Murray, with all that implies.

Stephen Bush wrote a piece last week (that I've not read) that seemed to be saying something similar re: Dodds, that she calls for Sunak to do stuff shortly before he does it. If you look at what Parliament as a game then there might be merit in it.

Big poll coming at midday.

— Keiran Pedley (@keiranpedley) October 14, 2020

Get hype for that Davey bounce

20 POINTS, 20 POINTS

All the other pollsters used excel and lost Keith's TWENTY POINTS

...this is a government torn between factions representing different brands of ignorance and stupidity

― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:57

Exactly this

I'm not sure that the government is about to announce a national circuit breaker anyway and that Starmer is just getting in ahead of them, they only announced the three-tier system a few days ago and someone had to leak the SAGE report. But things move fast nowadays and the government veers all over the place. If Labour are calling for things a few days before the government announces them it's probably because they're following the same polling data.

That said I think there's medium-term advantage in Starmer being seen to go against the polling on a circuit breaker when the scientific advice is clearly in favour of it. If the public isn't in favour of it now they sure as hell will be in a few weeks when the situation has escalated further, and it robs the government of the ability to pretend they are following the science.

Obviously a circuit breaker has the question of economic support and that needs to come to the forefront, Labour need to be seen to be supporting people like Andy Burnham, who's been more impressive during this crisis than he ever was in Parliament.

Ed Miliband syndrome- actually looking pretty good after their all-consuming ambition for the top job has been thwarted.

It's almost as if the people advising them are basically useless?

when Jenrick got caught red-handed in that cash for favours affair with Desmond. Burnham said I won't play politics here and condemn him or call for his resignation because he's a nice lad and a friend. That's one reason why I don't rate Burnham amongst many others- just another slimey shit-talking pol!

Scottish independence voting intention:

Yes: 58%
No: 42%

via @IpsosMORI, 02 - 09 Oct

— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) October 14, 2020

I can’t see that trend ever reversing tbh. Difficult to look at Brexit and covid and conclude Scotland’s future lies in the union.

Ya but there was a referendum and they fucked it lol hear from ye again in another 300 years mebbe

(I was extremely fucked off with the result, bcos chances like that don't come up too often)

What is life but just the postponement of death writes Mum of the year.

Lockdown does NOT save lives.
It postpones deaths.
You end up with the same number of deaths. You just prolong the crisis.
Can this country stop being anti-science? We may as well be examining animal entrails.

— Allison Pearson (@allisonpearson) October 14, 2020

she got suspended from twitter for urging students to get the Rona and 'speed us towards herd immunity'. So no doubt she's kicking some solid science.

can this country stop being anti-science and get on with the unpleasant but entirely necessary task of killing the elderly, the sick and the vulnerable so i can get back to having brunch

If on the other hand you want to have brunch while simultaneously getting on with the task of killing the elderly, the sick and the vulnerable then boy do we have some exciting news for you.

She studied English at Clare College, Cambridge, graduating with a lower second class degree (2:2)

nice to see the Scottish Independence polling backing up the thread title

love this precis of Perry A's precise dissection of why New Labour are for cunts

Pezza on New Labour. Magisterial ™️

On the eve of the election of 2010 that would finally propel New Labour into a frozen wasteland, by now overdue, the books on its record could be closed. 1/?

— Keith Sceptic (@paulewart23) October 14, 2020

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/generation-must-start-thinking-others-stop-spread-coronavirus/

not sure if the Allison Pearson who wrote this in March is any relation

tbf that was before it was clear it affected blacks n poors worst

un-fuckingte-nable to have someone like this in *the party of workers* https://t.co/p1qdewGCJX

— julia blunck (@juliablunck1) October 14, 2020

Good to see the party taking a strong line on this behaviour

that strong line in full:

"transphobia is good, we like it, and we encourage it"

I'm told Keir Starmer is meeting with Labour MPs personally to urge them not to break the whip on the CHIS 'spycops' bill, after more than just Socialist Campaign Group members raised concerns at the Monday PLP meeting over the abstention plans.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) October 14, 2020

Someone made an observation on twitter that Starmer wasn't going back to Ed Mil. It was going back to Harriet Harman's abstention on the welfare bill. And well, look at this.

so many profiles in courage these last few days, i'm finding it hard to keep track