"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

i truly don't understand why ANY REPUBLICAN supports him, and i say this despite my parents calling him "our Lindsey" and loving everything he does. i have gained no understanding of why they support him, but they just like him being around, on their tv.

if you liked him before, you probably liked john mccain and the military, too. so why would you like him now? is trump the new "maverick" for graham to be a sidekick for? but trump has no respect for the military, so...huh

Karl, do they know about his ladybugs?

yeah i mean that's the only thing that pops into my head whenever he comes up

but is it ok to shame someone for their anal freckles

Republican voters are gonna suddenly sit out 2020 bc they find their inner deficit hawk, turn on Trump at 11th hour bc he ok’d more spending?

C’mon:

This would be “the deal knell for our majority if Pelosi gets this win,” warned Sen. Marsha Blackburn https://t.co/Yiv7OcIjAq

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) October 10, 2020

*Sawyer from Lost voice* frackles

This would be “the deal knell for our majority if Pelosi gets this win,” warned Sen. Marsha Blackburn

wait, what's the deal knell

Biden is dodging the court packing issue. There’s electoral downsides to taking a position either way so that may be all he has in mind. But he’s doing it in such a way (explicitly refusing to take a position rather than just saying it’s a question for the senate or whatever) that it seems like he might actually support it.

I really don't think people who share Turning Point USA tweets to the thread get to decide what are good contributions or not

― Walter Draggedman (stevie), Saturday, 10 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Please help me remember this, then I'll tell you nothing whatsoever matters.

xp Yeah, Ezra Klein made that point after the debate:

Which made it all the more notable that when moderator Chris Wallace asked Biden to “tell the American people tonight whether or not you will support either ending the filibuster or packing the Court,” Biden refused. “Whatever position I take on that, that will become the issue,” he replied.

On the merits, this is a dodge. Those are consequential questions of governance, and Biden is running for president. His views are supposed to become flash points in the election. But in the context of all the sharp positions Biden did take, both for and against controversial policies, it was telling. Biden could have dismissed both ideas. At another time, he doubtlessly would have dismissed both ideas. That he refused to do so now reflects how far he’s moved, how far he believes his party has moved, or both.

I really don't think people who share Turning Point USA tweets to the thread get to decide what are good contributions or not

― Walter Draggedman (stevie), Saturday, 10 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Please help me remember this, then I'll tell you nothing whatsoever matters.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, October 10, 2020 7:08 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Kamala Harris wants this video of her saying "There is no question I'm in favor of banning fracking." off the internet.

Please don’t share this pic.twitter.com/Pm47ttbLvN

— Benny (@bennyjohnson) October 8, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:20 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Benny Arthur Johnson is an American political columnist, currently serving as chief creative officer at conservative nonprofit Turning Point USA.

dnftt, but do what you must.

does Ezra Klein know he doesn't have to publish literally every thick-headed fanfic produced by his unfortunate brain

He does, though, that's his entire job.

hopefully he is reallocated to more useful labor at some point in the future

fertilizing Central Park, if you catch my drift

1. Presidents don't decide the number of SC justices

2. Trump keeps telling us about plans (e.g. healthcare) without detail

3. "We'll see" us a totally understandable and defensible position these days

calling it defensible is one thing, saying that it represents some kind of substantive shift in Biden's thinking because he didn't just say "nah, Jack" is silly

No it isn’t?

Saying no probably helps him with the kind of swing votes he needs, and if he felt that way he’d probably say so. he’s been clear on things like defunding the police, why not this?

his phrasing was bad, not giving a position is good

i know that's the joke this year. i don't watch late night talk shows any more but i can picture it being a recurring theme: "2020! what else do you expect, haha!"

Seth Meyers' show has a 12-min segment a couple of times a week written by a former news researcher, that carefully elucidates the previous day's major threats to life and democracy, lightly pasted over with just enough jokes to keep it entertaining. (On Thursday it graduated to its own prime-time half-hour timeslot as a pilot.) The others lean on "lol dumpster fire year, orange man fascist" a fair bit. Colbert is completely inadequate at it, coming off incredibly *rich white man talks to rich white families about how bad things are in the abstract voice* before going to a zoom conference with the cast of The West Wing. Surprisingly, Kimmel is the best at maintaining the glib suited monologue format while making the same style of jokes, but using them to convey to middle America how the fascism is bad.

meanwhile stephen miller is popping his spooge into his triumph of the will import dvd for the 400th time, as the steroids really take hold

Impregnated her by climbing a ladder in the corner of her bedroom his music room and shuddering into a long, flexible funnel.

― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:57 AM (four days ago)

Lindsey overtaking Rand Paul and TED FUCKIN CRUZ on my personal list of most hated during the Trump era was not something I anticipated

My wife has said she suspects he’s drinking heavily

I hope a shitload of people read that tweet and make their decisions accordingly

If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) May 3, 2016

Stevie - Was the video of Kamala giving different answers to the fracking question invalidated by who posted it? You really are pathetic.

Lmao it was posted by benny Johnson so yes?

Joe Biden is a PUPPET of CASTRO-CHAVISTAS like Crazy Bernie, AOC and Castro-lover Karen Bass. Biden is supported by socialist Gustavo Petro, a major LOSER and former M-19 guerrilla leader. Biden is weak on socialism and will betray Colombia. I stand with you!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 10, 2020

big, if true

Because nothing matters? Ok xxp

The Castro are dead.

Colbert bums me out so badly now.

If it's information that's correct and isn't being made available elsewhere, I don't really care who shares it, even if it's by someone on the exact opposite end of the ideological spectrum than me. The Benny Johnson tweet could have come from a left-wing green voter, too!

I mean, I know we've gone over this in this thread, but I'm just going to remind people that Kamala Harris is awful, and so is fracking, and no amount of hemming and hawing can change those two facts.

does Ezra Klein know he doesn't have to publish literally every thick-headed fanfic produced by his unfortunate brain

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:47 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

He does, though, that's his entire job.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:50 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Once again, this is a complete misreading of Klein and what he's all about.

Unless that is some fake news video it matters. Stevie the planet is burning I'm begging you to be serious.

Table the difference is you post in good faith and say interesting things. Xyz does not so pretexts to dismiss what he’s saying are totally fine.

xxp Like, there's literally nothing in that excerpt I posted that is "fan fiction"?

caek you were trying to get me to vote lib dem in 2024 have some respect.

Ok benny

I simply want to reduce the GOP to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.

calling it defensible is one thing, saying that it represents some kind of substantive shift in Biden's thinking because he didn't just say "nah, Jack" is silly

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:03 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Klein said it *could* represent a shift in Biden's thinking...or it could not! It could also mean that the party is more open to entertaining the idea and that Biden wants to be careful about his messaging in light of that fact. Given recent comments from other elected Democrats (including Chuck Schumer of all people saying "everything is on the table"), this observation seems basically true to me. That doesn't mean anything will actually come of it, but Klein doesn't say it will.

Ok benny

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Tfw you know what good faith posting is

Lol at the concept of trump knowing what castro chavistas are— trump is already dead ain’t he?

I think it's legitimate to post a tweet from a piece of shit if the video isn't edited/misleading, but I will not stand for posting tweets in the "(x) sure would hate to see this get spread around twitter, whatever you do don't retweet" format.

When I see that format of tweet the (x) usually = Trump. Agree it's rubbish.

Lol at the concept of trump knowing what castro chavistas are— trump is already dead ain’t he?

the video of Kamala giving different answers to the fracking question...

Unless that is some fake news video it matters...

It may interest you to know that a vice president is free to disagree with the president on any policy issue, but a vice president cannot overrule a president on any policy issue. My conclusion is that Kamala Harris probably does still personally want to end fracking, just as she has indicated in the past, but now that she is on the ticket, but not at the top, it does her no good to repeat that disagreement during the campaign, or to repeat her position in public later on, after Biden wins. The best she can do is emphasize Biden's position and keep her own under wraps.

Biden is probably just pandering to Pennsylvania on this issue. What's far more important is that the alternative energy infrastructure gets built up and running asap. Next, ending fossil fuel subsidies would be the simplest way to end fracking without specifically banning it.

Biden is probably just pandering to Pennsylvania on this issue.

this

I know it's Sirota, but:

https://www.dailyposter.com/p/harris-did-not-need-to-tout-fracking

More likely KH’s fracking position was calculated to appeal to the Democratic primary voting base and her current position is that of her boss. Who knows how she really feels.

I feel like Biden/Harris have a whole hell of a lot less to do with this country’s energy future than the Senate does.

First we need to win the Senate, then the Senate needs to be convinced by the House to take green energy seriously, then Biden needs to sign it.

The same path to progressive goals applies to restoring influence in the Judiciary, and to DC and PR statehood.

The President (and presumptive heir, given Biden's age) leads the way, as ever. It's utterly bizarre after half a century of talking about the 'imperial Presidency' to pretend otherwise.

Seriously. Get out front with the messaging. Its the only thing missing! The public is already there.