"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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The amazing first half I get--basically, be thankful you get to move around freely like the rest of us


Oh, I assumed by "go anywhere" he meant achieve anything, not move around freely.

Alba, Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:50 (five years ago)

And the second part meant "being a liberal will hold you back".

Alba, Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:51 (five years ago)

yes I agree w Alba that they was exactly what he meant.

but imo thereโ€™s some heavy dog-whistling there, however conscious of it dear Lindsey may be

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:00 (five years ago)

My wife has said she suspects heโ€™s drinking heavily

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:09 (five years ago)

Want to know what's at stake this election? If we lose the Senate, socialist Bernie Sanders will become Budget Committee Chairman. If we hold the Senate, and I am re-elected, I will be Budget Committee Chairman.

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) October 9, 2020

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:10 (five years ago)

I hope a shitload of people read that tweet and make their decisions accordingly

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:17 (five years ago)

i want that piece of shit gone so bad. craven on a shakespearean level. politics attracts people like this, i realise, but i still canโ€™t understand how they get the votes.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:19 (five years ago)

flashbacks to adolescent discussions of race with old white ppl whoโ€™d say stuff like โ€œyes of course there some โ€˜good onesโ€™ and btw Iโ€™m def NOT racist bc I donโ€™t say that tacky word so nyah..โ€

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:23 (five years ago)

i truly don't understand why ANY REPUBLICAN supports him, and i say this despite my parents calling him "our Lindsey" and loving everything he does. i have gained no understanding of why they support him, but they just like him being around, on their tv.

if you liked him before, you probably liked john mccain and the military, too. so why would you like him now? is trump the new "maverick" for graham to be a sidekick for? but trump has no respect for the military, so...huh

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:29 (five years ago)

Karl, do they know about his ladybugs?

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:32 (five years ago)

yeah i mean that's the only thing that pops into my head whenever he comes up

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:35 (five years ago)

but is it ok to shame someone for their anal freckles

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:35 (five years ago)

Republican voters are gonna suddenly sit out 2020 bc they find their inner deficit hawk, turn on Trump at 11th hour bc he okโ€™d more spending?

Cโ€™mon:

This would be โ€œthe deal knell for our majority if Pelosi gets this win,โ€ warned Sen. Marsha Blackburn https://t.co/Yiv7OcIjAq

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) October 10, 2020



These senators are making purely ideological decisions and explaining them with claims they donโ€™t believe about voter preferences because they know trump is going to lose and it makes no difference.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:51 (five years ago)

*Sawyer from Lost voice* frackles

shout-out to his family (DJP), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:52 (five years ago)

This would be โ€œthe deal knell for our majority if Pelosi gets this win,โ€ warned Sen. Marsha Blackburn

wait, what's the deal knell

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:06 (five years ago)

Biden is dodging the court packing issue. Thereโ€™s electoral downsides to taking a position either way so that may be all he has in mind. But heโ€™s doing it in such a way (explicitly refusing to take a position rather than just saying itโ€™s a question for the senate or whatever) that it seems like he might actually support it.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:07 (five years ago)

I really don't think people who share Turning Point USA tweets to the thread get to decide what are good contributions or not

โ€• Walter Draggedman (stevie), Saturday, 10 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Please help me remember this, then I'll tell you nothing whatsoever matters.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:08 (five years ago)

xp Yeah, Ezra Klein made that point after the debate:

Which made it all the more notable that when moderator Chris Wallace asked Biden to โ€œtell the American people tonight whether or not you will support either ending the filibuster or packing the Court,โ€ Biden refused. โ€œWhatever position I take on that, that will become the issue,โ€ he replied.

On the merits, this is a dodge. Those are consequential questions of governance, and Biden is running for president. His views are supposed to become flash points in the election. But in the context of all the sharp positions Biden did take, both for and against controversial policies, it was telling. Biden could have dismissed both ideas. At another time, he doubtlessly would have dismissed both ideas. That he refused to do so now reflects how far heโ€™s moved, how far he believes his party has moved, or both.

jaymc, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

I really don't think people who share Turning Point USA tweets to the thread get to decide what are good contributions or not

โ€• Walter Draggedman (stevie), Saturday, 10 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Please help me remember this, then I'll tell you nothing whatsoever matters.

โ€• xyzzzz__, Saturday, October 10, 2020 7:08 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Kamala Harris wants this video of her saying "There is no question I'm in favor of banning fracking." off the internet.

Please donโ€™t share this pic.twitter.com/Pm47ttbLvN

โ€” Benny (@bennyjohnson) October 8, 2020
โ€• xyzzzz__, Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:20 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Walter Draggedman (stevie), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:42 (five years ago)

Benny Arthur Johnson is an American political columnist, currently serving as chief creative officer at conservative nonprofit Turning Point USA.

Walter Draggedman (stevie), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:43 (five years ago)

dnftt, but do what you must.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:44 (five years ago)

does Ezra Klein know he doesn't have to publish literally every thick-headed fanfic produced by his unfortunate brain

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

He does, though, that's his entire job.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:50 (five years ago)

hopefully he is reallocated to more useful labor at some point in the future

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:53 (five years ago)

fertilizing Central Park, if you catch my drift

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:54 (five years ago)

1. Presidents don't decide the number of SC justices

2. Trump keeps telling us about plans (e.g. healthcare) without detail

3. "We'll see" us a totally understandable and defensible position these days

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:02 (five years ago)

calling it defensible is one thing, saying that it represents some kind of substantive shift in Biden's thinking because he didn't just say "nah, Jack" is silly

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:03 (five years ago)

No it isnโ€™t?

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:08 (five years ago)

Saying no probably helps him with the kind of swing votes he needs, and if he felt that way heโ€™d probably say so. heโ€™s been clear on things like defunding the police, why not this?

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:09 (five years ago)

his phrasing was bad, not giving a position is good



i know that's the joke this year. i don't watch late night talk shows any more but i can picture it being a recurring theme: "2020! what else do you expect, haha!"

Seth Meyers' show has a 12-min segment a couple of times a week written by a former news researcher, that carefully elucidates the previous day's major threats to life and democracy, lightly pasted over with just enough jokes to keep it entertaining. (On Thursday it graduated to its own prime-time half-hour timeslot as a pilot.) The others lean on "lol dumpster fire year, orange man fascist" a fair bit. Colbert is completely inadequate at it, coming off incredibly *rich white man talks to rich white families about how bad things are in the abstract voice* before going to a zoom conference with the cast of The West Wing. Surprisingly, Kimmel is the best at maintaining the glib suited monologue format while making the same style of jokes, but using them to convey to middle America how the fascism is bad.

meanwhile stephen miller is popping his spooge into his triumph of the will import dvd for the 400th time, as the steroids really take hold

Impregnated her by climbing a ladder in the corner of her bedroom his music room and shuddering into a long, flexible funnel.

โ€• erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:57 AM (four days ago)

Lindsey overtaking Rand Paul and TED FUCKIN CRUZ on my personal list of most hated during the Trump era was not something I anticipated

My wife has said she suspects heโ€™s drinking heavily

I hope a shitload of people read that tweet and make their decisions accordingly

If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) May 3, 2016

Covidiots from UHF (sic), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:20 (five years ago)

Stevie - Was the video of Kamala giving different answers to the fracking question invalidated by who posted it? You really are pathetic.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:24 (five years ago)

Lmao it was posted by benny Johnson so yes?

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:26 (five years ago)

Joe Biden is a PUPPET of CASTRO-CHAVISTAS like Crazy Bernie, AOC and Castro-lover Karen Bass. Biden is supported by socialist Gustavo Petro, a major LOSER and former M-19 guerrilla leader. Biden is weak on socialism and will betray Colombia. I stand with you!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 10, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:26 (five years ago)

big, if true

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:28 (five years ago)

Because nothing matters? Ok xxp

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:28 (five years ago)

The Castro are dead.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:28 (five years ago)

Colbert bums me out so badly now.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:29 (five years ago)

If it's information that's correct and isn't being made available elsewhere, I don't really care who shares it, even if it's by someone on the exact opposite end of the ideological spectrum than me. The Benny Johnson tweet could have come from a left-wing green voter, too!

I mean, I know we've gone over this in this thread, but I'm just going to remind people that Kamala Harris is awful, and so is fracking, and no amount of hemming and hawing can change those two facts.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:30 (five years ago)

does Ezra Klein know he doesn't have to publish literally every thick-headed fanfic produced by his unfortunate brain

โ€• it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:47 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

He does, though, that's his entire job.

โ€• Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:50 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Once again, this is a complete misreading of Klein and what he's all about.

jaymc, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:32 (five years ago)

Unless that is some fake news video it matters. Stevie the planet is burning I'm begging you to be serious.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:33 (five years ago)

Table the difference is you post in good faith and say interesting things. Xyz does not so pretexts to dismiss what heโ€™s saying are totally fine.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:34 (five years ago)

xxp Like, there's literally nothing in that excerpt I posted that is "fan fiction"?

jaymc, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:34 (five years ago)

caek you were trying to get me to vote lib dem in 2024 have some respect.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:36 (five years ago)

Ok benny

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:41 (five years ago)

I simply want to reduce the GOP to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.

earlnash, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:45 (five years ago)

calling it defensible is one thing, saying that it represents some kind of substantive shift in Biden's thinking because he didn't just say "nah, Jack" is silly

โ€• it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:03 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Klein said it *could* represent a shift in Biden's thinking...or it could not! It could also mean that the party is more open to entertaining the idea and that Biden wants to be careful about his messaging in light of that fact. Given recent comments from other elected Democrats (including Chuck Schumer of all people saying "everything is on the table"), this observation seems basically true to me. That doesn't mean anything will actually come of it, but Klein doesn't say it will.

jaymc, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:47 (five years ago)

Ok benny

โ€• ๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Tfw you know what good faith posting is

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:53 (five years ago)

Lol at the concept of trump knowing what castro chavistas areโ€” trump is already dead ainโ€™t he?

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 10 October 2020 20:48 (five years ago)

I think it's legitimate to post a tweet from a piece of shit if the video isn't edited/misleading, but I will not stand for posting tweets in the "(x) sure would hate to see this get spread around twitter, whatever you do don't retweet" format.

JoeStork, Saturday, 10 October 2020 20:55 (five years ago)

When I see that format of tweet the (x) usually = Trump. Agree it's rubbish.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 October 2020 21:07 (five years ago)


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