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ban seems way harsh imo...body shaming is obv. ugly but we can get there by discouraging it...and as endlessly debated a valid argument can be made in table-turning e.g. on the body-shamer In Chief

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:38 (five years ago)

personally I'm not clear on where to draw the lines btw Hitler's ball/Trump's corset/and somebody as relentlessly cruel as Christie's obesity

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:41 (five years ago)

it suffices to lambast the cruelty in these cases, the body-shaming is spurious and prurient

All cars are bad (Euler), Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:43 (five years ago)

imo there are so many other ways to talk about people you don't like, potentially millions

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:49 (five years ago)

bodyshaming is usually a bellwether for other shitty behavior, imo

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:55 (five years ago)

I'm going on the assumption that burrito doesn't even dislike Christie, just wanted to be transgressive here. One hallmark of the Minor Troll. (AC 11, HP 8, speed 30, etc)

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:00 (five years ago)

Permitting or excusing body-shaming drives people away from ILX, and attracts bullies.

All cars are bad (Euler), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:06 (five years ago)

Please don't call the president crazy since it could offend actual paranoid schizophrenics.

pplains, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:11 (five years ago)

this but unironically

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:15 (five years ago)

bodyshaming is usually a bellwether for other shitty behavior, imo

Please choose better words to use instead of making light of people with digestive ailments.

https://empirenews.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/soiled.jpg

And whatever you do, please do not make light of the photo above.

pplains, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:15 (five years ago)

is it ok to shame people for living in arkansas

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:18 (five years ago)

Absolutely.

pplains, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:20 (five years ago)

what if it was just you

cointelamateur (m bison), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:25 (five years ago)

for real though shaming people for their behavior is always a better way to go

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:27 (five years ago)

How about thoughts and beliefs?

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:36 (five years ago)

Pointing out that Chris Christie is a fat fuck and got sick after flouting COVID-19 guidelines is absolutely fair.

pplains, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:53 (five years ago)

I don't see what's so hard to understand

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:58 (five years ago)

It's making his fatness part of your overall hatred for him. It's making being fat a hateable characteristic.

I occasionally forget about the "right to be fat" thread and think ilx is full of progressive people who hate such singling out. It sometimes lasts weeks instead of days so maybe that's progress.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:06 (five years ago)

bodyshaming is usually a bellwether for other shitty behavior, imo

this wasn't aimed at anyone, btw - i didn't scroll upthread to see the posts that were being referenced

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:08 (five years ago)

onimo otm i feel like people are just being purposefully mean

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:10 (five years ago)

I mean, of course they are. This is the same deal when (White) people chomp at the bit to throw dubious racial insults at Candace Owens

shout-out to his family (DJP), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

onimo otm i feel like people are just being purposefully mean

They should just go back to wishing people were dead or crippled by infirmity but leave out the (dead) body-shaming. That's mean.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:14 (five years ago)

They should just go back to wishing people were dead or crippled by infirmity but leave out the (dead) body-shaming. That's mean.

Wishing ill on powerful, bad people is valid, if unsavoury. Calling people out as fat fucks on a board that fat people read is an insensitive dick move.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:22 (five years ago)

Permitting or excusing body-shaming drives people away from ILX, and attracts bullies.

Whereas threads full of people wishing someone was dead is like a warm comforting embrace.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:23 (five years ago)

no one reading this message board is dead

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:29 (five years ago)

some ghosts lurk

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:29 (five years ago)

Neither are the people you lot are wishing were dead. That's how the wishing thing works.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:30 (five years ago)

Wishing ill on powerful, bad people is valid, if unsavoury. Calling people out as fat fucks on a board that fat people read is an insensitive dick move.

Yeah, this is really not that complicated a distinction!

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:31 (five years ago)

get back out there champ

More Trump rallies announced:
Tuesday: Johnstown, Pennsylvania
Wednesday: Des Moines, Iowa

— Jenn Pellegrino OAN 🇺🇸 (@JennPellegrino) October 10, 2020

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:31 (five years ago)

I don't understand what's so hard to grasp about this. Body-shaming insults have a collateral impact on people who didn't do anything wrong. Wishing death on someone doesn't involve stigmatizing a general characteristic in the same way.

jmm, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:33 (five years ago)

even the "Orange Man Bad" shit, cringe as it is, we can at least pretty safely assume there isn't a contingent of orange ILXors cringing through that shit out of personal affront

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:40 (five years ago)

the humble cheeto is my favorite food.........

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:46 (five years ago)

Will Trump walk out in PA to "Highway Patrolman"?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:52 (five years ago)

I have some sympathy with jon via cheeto and think it would be best if everyone just let go.

― Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:45 (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sorry

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:56 (five years ago)

feel like insulting/bodyshaming/wishing death on Fellow Message Board Posters is probably grounds for a ban from a Message Board, but insulting/bodyshaming/wishing death on public figures who aren't afawk Fellow Message Board Posters is probably not. but thank you for your protective hypervigilance W.M.C.

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:56 (five years ago)

heard a sick remix of highway patrolman last year fwiw

i think it was in a HAAi set

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:59 (five years ago)

Mitch McConnell resembles a turtle.

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:09 (five years ago)

Being reported that Trump was scheduled to speak for 30 minutes, but ended at 17. When was the last time Mr. Babble McStamina went *under* his allotted time?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:20 (five years ago)

If it’s not ok to direct racial slurs at black republicans it’s not ok to call Chris Christie a “tub of lard” this is extremely basic stuff what is wrong with you

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:24 (five years ago)

this isn't about whether or not it's "ok" to call Chris a fat tub of lard. it's about whether or not I should be removed from the community for it.

it's not "ok" to laugh at someone for having a disease either. do we really need to have this conversation

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:27 (five years ago)

https://hbr.org/2018/05/tips-for-reading-the-room-before-a-meeting-or-presentation

pomenitul, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:29 (five years ago)

I flagged that post so yes xp

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:31 (five years ago)

so, calling a politician a fat tub of lard is a worse and more bannable offense than celebrating the news that they've contracted a potentially fatal disease? do I have that right?

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:35 (five years ago)

Sure. “I hope bad things happen to this person because they are a Republican” seems fine to me. There’s even a strong utilitarian argument for it in this case.

Not sure how to compare that to a non sequitur about someone’s weight.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:40 (five years ago)

I'm not in favor of calling out people for being fat, even heinous ones like Christie, but burrito does kind of have a point there

Nhex, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:43 (five years ago)

I don't hate Chris Christie. He's a funny, charming, likeable dude. I don't agree with his policies, but he pours bags of M&Ms into larger bags of M&Ms at baseball games, and that is adorable. I don't want Chris Christie to get sick or die. But the truth is, he's a fat tub of lard, and the phrase "fat tub of lard" is funny to me so I use it once every few years when talking about people like Chris Christie who wobble around in their little suits vindictively ordering unnecessary bridge lane closures.

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:44 (five years ago)

xp I'm not "in favor of it" either, but I did it.

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:44 (five years ago)

engaging in bodyshaming inherently insults people other than the people you imagine you're targeting, and it contributes to a shitty, fatshaming culture that causes real psychological and medical harm. it's bad, and it's also bad for this board.

also, fwiw, i have been exposed to a fair amount of fat activism for a non-fat person, and i have never seen anyone carve out a "well, if they're turning the tables on a bad person, then that's okay" exception.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:45 (five years ago)

wow burrito you need to stfu

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:45 (five years ago)

“I hope bad things happen to this person because they are a Republican” seems fine to me

I disagree that it's "fine" to hope bad things happen to anyone, but because I'm a tolerant and open-minded person, I won't fp you for it.

the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:46 (five years ago)


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