We Still Have a Government, Right?: Canadian Politics 2020

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1486 of them)

I feel a little foolish about having gone to the movie theatre a few times in September where they were allowing masks to be taken off. Not that any COVID cases seem to have been traced to there, but yeah, shoulda been more careful.

jmm, Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:05 (five years ago)

ive been to a few movies, always seated super far from anywhere else. i don’t think it’s a huge risk

flopson, Sunday, 11 October 2020 04:40 (five years ago)

it's still nice outside people, there are loads of ways to exercise outside. or at fucking home.

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, October 10, 2020 11:52 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

not for long..

flopson, Sunday, 11 October 2020 04:41 (five years ago)

running is nice until, like, mid December imo

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 11 October 2020 04:44 (five years ago)

and you can do lots at home with little or no equipment

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 11 October 2020 04:45 (five years ago)

I've been telling people: calisthenics, including pull-ups and such, have been the key to my own physical fitness for like the past two years.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:56 (five years ago)

I mostly do body weight stuff at home when not running or going to the pool, yeah.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:04 (five years ago)

I installed a pull-up bar though it's more aspirational than useful just yet...

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:35 (five years ago)

I intend to go my whole life without doing a pull-up.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:42 (five years ago)

Ottawa reaches code red status. Hospitals above capacity; warning that we could reach 800-1000 cases/day by Xmas: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-public-health-red-status-1.576059

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 October 2020 05:20 (five years ago)

Should work better: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-public-health-red-status-1.5760593

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 October 2020 05:20 (five years ago)

A friend of mine there (Ottawa) is freaking out this morning because her kids’ school bus routes have apparently just been “cancelled until further notice” without provision or additional information, and she’s now faced with having to get them there during the same time frame as she’s supposed to be at work. Ride sharing and other backups are a problem right now of course. Seems our system is just failing.

Kim, Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:43 (five years ago)

Because of COVID or lack of drivers?

clemenza, Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:48 (five years ago)

we could reach 800-1000 cases/day by Xmas

This is terrifying.

See you in 6 months?

jmm, Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:34 (five years ago)

I've written off the idea of visiting family until spring 2021 at the earliest.

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:37 (five years ago)

Death toll went up by 29 in Quebec today despite the extra restrictive measures (nonessential visits forbidden). Not that most people give a shit: one of our neighbours had people over the other day. To add insult to injury, the zoomers downstairs are still partying and I can hear them coming and going like it's 1992 and we're at Seinfeld's place. I'm not gonna go all Stasi on them but it's kinda tempting sometimes tbh.

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:48 (five years ago)

While those deaths are alarming for sure, it looks like the numbers are at least stabilizing in Quebec at around 1000 new cases per day, so the latest round of restrictions imposed by the government appear to at least have some effect.

silverfish, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:32 (five years ago)

clemenza, not sure, imagine it’s connected to both a shortage and isolation measures. Seems hard to deal with regardless.

Kim, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:38 (five years ago)

silverfish lining :)

xp

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:39 (five years ago)

so uh are the BC Liberals even going to exist by the end of this election

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 16 October 2020 00:21 (five years ago)

ok maybe they won't go the way of the socreds, but they're in pretty deep trouble these days

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 16 October 2020 00:22 (five years ago)

both a shortage and isolation measures

It occurred to me later that of course they're linked, although I think there was a driver shortage even pre-COVID.

clemenza, Friday, 16 October 2020 00:39 (five years ago)

so uh are the BC Liberals even going to exist by the end of this election

inshallah

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:00 (five years ago)

I did not expect their entire campaign to be a prolonged self-immolation. Here's a thread by their membership chair:

I have long been a supporter of the BC Liberal Party. I continue to stand by the values of free enterprise that originally drew me to this party. The BC Liberal Party under Andrew Wilkinson does not reflect values I support. #bcpoli #BCelxn2020

— Nicole Paul (@nicole_paul) October 16, 2020

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:01 (five years ago)

And I don't think it even mentions all their senior leadership getting together to call Bowinn Ma (our youngest and greatest MLA) a slut:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7391950/sexist-bc-liberals-take-fire-over-leaked-zoom-video-mocking-ndps-bowinn-ma/

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:04 (five years ago)

The Green leader Sonia Furstenau outclassed Horgan in the debate, I hope the Greens survive this election

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:05 (five years ago)

Greens productive alliance with the BCNDP and Weaver's leadership in general has helped them a lot. They're not going to start winning more seats but expect them to increase their vote share. And yeah, it's been fun watching the Libs hilariously awful campaign. Wilkinson is the leader they deserve at this point. They're still going to win at least 36 seats though, even in a worst case scenario because people will still vote for their incumbents who are generally not as appalling as the leader. My guess is NDP:46 / Libs 39 / Greens 2.

everything, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:22 (five years ago)

it’s incredibly gratifying to see throness finally kicked out, but the fact it took so long just makes for very bad optics, especially for wilkinson. this should’ve happened when throness directly contradicted wilkinson and doubled down on supporting conversion therapy. and this makes it more difficult for wilkinson to justify keeping other problematic candidates.

i’m still not clear on what happens now, is throness still running? what if he gets elected, he’ll sit as an independent? wouldn’t be surprised to see him joining CHP either (esp since they pretty much offered).

scanner darkly, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:24 (five years ago)

also lol at bc libs slowly figuring out that this “say what’s on your mind” thing isn’t really working well in the era of zoom.

scanner darkly, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:25 (five years ago)

just pure schadenfreude

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:31 (five years ago)

My guess is NDP:46 / Libs 39 / Greens 2

Will Throness keep his seat? That prediction makes a lot of sense to me, but I do wonder what happens to the seat count if the polls showing NDP with 50% of the vote are anywhere near true. Those polls were conducted before today's clusterfuck, too

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:34 (five years ago)

Throness is now an independent but the Liberals have no other horse in that race. So he will probably be elected. Chilliwack is one of our most...interesting(?) regions.

everything, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:36 (five years ago)

Throness said that free contraception was eugenics aimed at poor people in a candidates debate! I don't think he can even blame Zoom for that one

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:38 (five years ago)

Maybe he'll lose. That would be amazing!

everything, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:48 (five years ago)

it still feels like they think these zoom calls are a smaller audience or something, hence them saying something they’d maybe normally have enough sense not to say. and the fact that you see other people’s reactions - or the lack of, adds to it. it wasn’t just the slut shaming, it was everybody - including wilkinson - laughing that just made it look that much worse.

scanner darkly, Friday, 16 October 2020 01:50 (five years ago)

yeah the hollywood squares layout of nine old white people joining in made for a terrible visual

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 01:56 (five years ago)

Another @bcliberals candidate is under fire. This time for tweets from June from a now-deleted account that support JK Rowling’s anti-trans blog. @LorraineBrett20 started a new account in September, but this tweet exists in Web Archive. #bcpoli #BCvotes2020 pic.twitter.com/yJX0m0vlFR

— Charmaine de Silva (@char_des) October 16, 2020

scanner darkly, Friday, 16 October 2020 17:58 (five years ago)

A friend of mine there (Ottawa) is freaking out this morning because her kids’ school bus routes have apparently just been “cancelled until further notice” without provision or additional information, and she’s now faced with having to get them there during the same time frame as she’s supposed to be at work. Ride sharing and other backups are a problem right now of course. Seems our system is just failing.

Yeah, afaict, it is chaos with the schools, with bus routes getting cancelled, several entire schools shutting down for two-week periods, etc. Has there been any investigation of what is behind this huge spike in numbers?

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Friday, 16 October 2020 18:57 (five years ago)

This looks like it could be an interesting and useful documentary (airing Nov 4, aiui): https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/the-passionate-eye/recycling-was-a-lie-a-big-lie-to-sell-more-plastic-industry-experts-say-1.5735618

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 October 2020 14:38 (five years ago)

one for the doom files

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 17 October 2020 14:41 (five years ago)

That seems so obvious when you think about it.

jmm, Saturday, 17 October 2020 14:46 (five years ago)

new, from the people who brought you "littering"

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:03 (five years ago)

this planet money on recycling is good: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/912150085/waste-land

flopson, Saturday, 17 October 2020 23:59 (five years ago)

Oh yeah, recently listened to that.

Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 03:36 (five years ago)

The @RCMPNS spokesperson on damage to property, threats, assault, vandalism, arson: "We don't see this as a police issue, but we understand both sides."https://t.co/r5IbODLjQZ

— David T.S. Fraser (@privacylawyer) October 17, 2020

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 18 October 2020 13:55 (five years ago)

Under 700 cases for the first time in a week in Ontario, but looking back a few weeks, Sunday numbers are always lower.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:54 (five years ago)

Sunday numbers are always lower.

Same in Quebec fwiw.

pomenitul, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:55 (five years ago)

The saga of UOttawa and why everything and everyone is garbage in 2020:

When discussing queer theory in an English-language class on art and gender at this bilingual university, Professor Verushka Lieutenant-Duval (originally from Quebec, possibly francophone, which has become important to some) gave examples of slurs that have been reclaimed by minority communities, including "queer", "crip", and a third one that has been reclaimed by some within the African-American community, which she pronounced in its entirety (possibly related to a second language/culture misunderstanding??): https://thefulcrum.ca/news/professors-use-of-racial-slur-sparks-outrage-on-social-media-faculty-looking-into-the-matter/. After significant outrage on social media, the university condemned her choice and suspended her. She has not been teaching for two weeks: https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/2020-10-15/l-etudiant-a-toujours-raison.php. The story has afaict been covered significantly in French-language media and barely in English-language media, despite it happening in Ontario in an English-language classroom. 30 of her colleagues, predominantly francophone afaict, wrote a letter condemning this suspension and expressing support for her academic freedom; afaict this was only written in French, unusual at this university where typically everything is done in both languages and takes twice as long: https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2020/10/16/des-profs-de-luniversite-dottawa-denoncent-la-suspension-dun-collegue. (As it happens, my own sympathies are with the faculty; the prof made a mistake but the punishment seems v disproportionate to me.)

Some anglophone students (and trolls?) on social media have taken this as an opportunity to slander francophones as a group, ironically labelling a whole group as bigots, with calls to target professors who signed their names to the letter:

Oh, oh. Les profs qui ont signé une lettre d'appui à leur collègue de l'Université d'Ottawa n'ont pas fini d'en entendre parler... pic.twitter.com/CniVZ0hbIv

— Isabelle Hachey (@ihachey) October 18, 2020


French whiteness is its own special brand of racist.

— BDF (Black diaspora faggotry) (@blacklikewho) October 17, 2020


(Hachey is not cherry-picking imo. I've come across similar stuff on my own.)

In response, a look through the responses to Hachey shows plenty of quasi-alt-right nationalist victimized sentiment, no doubt from queer theory aficionados:

Est-ce que c'est être blanc ou francophone qui est pire, ou le combinaison est exponentiellement pire? Je suis tellement mélangé par ceux qui ont toutes les réponses.

— JF Prieur (@AdmiralHackbar) October 18, 2020


Ces termes néo-marxistes ne font qu’empirer le tout.

C’est cette idéologie créé cette fragilité/incapacité à négocier avec la dissidence par le politiquement correct.

— Guillaume FB (@FbGuillaume) October 18, 2020

Even recently, I would have written off idiots on Twitter as just being idiots on Twitter but afaict Twitter is what got Lieutenant-Duval suspended in the first place.

I guess I'd be lonesome (Sund4r), Monday, 19 October 2020 00:09 (five years ago)

I mean, French whiteness is its own brand of racist. That tweet is accurate.

I don't think the prof deserves the recrimination or suspension, however.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 19 October 2020 11:32 (five years ago)

It’s a bit more complicated than that. Quebec is not France in that its majority is a minority within the Canadian federation, and there is a history of discrimination towards francophones in this country. While claims of Quebec bashing have and are indeed still used by some francophones to outright justify racist discourse, this does not preclude the existence of actual francophobia in English-speaking Canada, which makes these kinds of statements hurtful and counter-productive.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 October 2020 12:11 (five years ago)


This thread has been locked by an administrator

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.