"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

why are they accepting any delay?

― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:44 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk struggling to care about this

given the way Trump's performed in those debates you probably want them as close to the election as possible

Not if he's bloated from steroids and gasping for breath

all Biden has going for him is Trump's humiliation

I don't think the Biden campaign is "accepting a delay." They want to go forward with the already scheduled Oct. 22 debate. The statement leaves open the possibility that that debate could be held remotely, just as the Oct. 15 debate was supposed to be. But the ball is in the Debate Commission's court now to make that decision.

xps i was looking up what you meant, damn, didn't realize a member of Moxy Fruvous is now a famous sex pest

Biden tested negative today, 9 days after the debate.

i hope every bird in America shits on Trump every day, forever, even after he's dead

also when he dies I want him left in the middle of Wacker Drive

didn't realize a member of Moxy Fruvous is now a famous sex pest

yeah kind of the last band you'd expect huh

WASHINGTON (AP) — Feds charge prominent Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy in covert lobbying effort to drop Justice Department probe.

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) October 8, 2020

also looks like this guy has seen enough

At event in Kentucky today, McConnell also said: “If any of you have been around me since May the 1st, I’ve said, ‘Wear your mask. Practice social distancing.’ ... Now, you’ve heard of other places that have had a different view, and they are, you know, paying the price for it.”

— Felicia Sonmez (@feliciasonmez) October 8, 2020

Mitch throwing shade from a social distance.

xpost - Wow I remember those awful stories about Ghomeshi, but I always read about it with him framed as a CBC broadcaster. Had no idea until today he was in Moxy Fuvous.

i hope every bird in America shits on Trump every day, forever, even after he's dead

― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal)

i respect this, but i also think some of the birds should be assigned to take a shit on the people who supported Trump, every day, forever. divide and conquer

I knew Ghomeshi only as "that Canadian Billy Bob Thornton was rude to"

these stories hit more or less at exactly the same time and directly contradict each other in their conclusions/headlines but not in their facts?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/08/fact-check-trumps-antibody-therapy-not-made-fetal-stem-cells/5901542002/
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/08/world/covid-coronavirus

bocck bok bok bok

God yes, Biden's dumb folksiness could 110% sell calling Trump a coward. Belittling him is the most effective tactic, if Biden's strategists had thought to pay attention to his reactions to Graydon Carter (checks notes) between 1985 and 2016.

Trump can fight his way out of a corner. He does it over and over again and people keep assuming he'll trip himself up. MAYBE this time it's different, I just wouldn't bet the farm on it.

He also loses a lot and just drops it and walks away - the fuss he makes about everything else is very effective at minimising his failures and bankruptcies and defeats.

It's more specific: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/feds-thwart-militia-plot-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/5922301002/

(This was the same link btw, if you meant to post a different one?)

MCCONNELL: “I haven’t actually been to the White House since August the 6th. Because my impression was that their approach to how to handle this is different from mine and what I suggested that we do in the Senate, which is to wear a mask and practice social distancing."

dammit:

Barr and Mitch would be very very satisfying, yes; I assume McConnell has been more cautious than Barr about reducing his risk.

― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:28 AM (two days ago)

trump using a green screen for his show today ?

God yes, Biden's dumb folksiness could 110% sell calling Trump a coward

he should bring back calling people "yellow-bellied"

dog-faced pony soldier

Biden should challenge him to a duel.

why you two-timin' good for nuthin', lily-livered blunderbuss, why i oughtta...

lots of obvious but worthwhile points here that dem leadership would do well to hammer home:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/upshot/trump-hospital-costs-coronavirus.html

President Trump spent three days in the hospital. He arrived and left by helicopter. And he received multiple coronavirus tests, oxygen, steroids and an experimental antibody treatment.

For someone who isn’t president, that would cost more than $100,000 in the American health system. Patients could face significant surprise bills and medical debt even after health insurance paid its share.
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Health economists are only starting to understand the full costs of coronavirus treatment, just as scientists are mapping out how the disease works and spreads. They do have some early estimates: The median charge for a coronavirus hospitalization for a patient over 60 is $61,912, according to a claims database, FAIR Health.

That figure includes any medical care during the hospital stay, such as an emergency room visit that led to admission or drugs provided by the hospital.

For insured patients, that price would typically be negotiated lower by their health plan. FAIR Health estimates that the median amount paid is $31,575. That amount, like most things in American health care, varies significantly from one patient to another.

In the FAIR Health data on coronavirus patients over 60, a quarter face charges less than $26,821 for their hospital stay. Another quarter face charges higher than $193,149, in part because of longer stays.
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The biggest billing risk for a patient receiving treatment similar to Mr. Trump’s would probably come from helicopter rides to the hospital.

Air ambulances are expensive and often not in major health insurance plans’ networks. The median charge for an air ambulance is $38,770, according to a study in the journal Health Affairs published this year. When the helicopter trip is out of network — as about three-quarters of them are — patients are left with a median charge of $21,698 after the insurance payout.

Taking two helicopter rides, as Mr. Trump did, could plausibly result in more than $40,000 in medical debt for patients without access to their own aircraft (though of course most people do not leave the hospital by helicopter).

Billboard that went up in my neighborhood (this particular spot always has weird right wing billboards, like previously it was one calling for the recall of our democratic mayor, who's definitely disappointed the left by giving lip service to defund the police, but doing nothing and reassuring police orgs):

Trump = jobs
Biden = mobs
Paid for by the WI Chinese American Business Assocation (um, doubtful?)

CABA = ACAB = ABACAB

Apparently 7 more Michigan Militia members arrested, bringing the total to 13.

I guess, 7 more "charged" is more accurate.

Apparently 7 more Michigan Militia members arrested, bringing the total to 13.

If they out and out got them this easily and clearly i would think they didn’t work real hard to catch them

I’m assuming this is more serious than the half-assed entrapment they do to Muslims.

This came from informants, so I wouldn't assume that at all.

It really can't be emphasized enough how with his pandemic approach Trump is doubling down on a 16 against a dealer 10 https://t.co/JM2BIZfPU8 pic.twitter.com/TgrgLT1kJ0

— Jake Anbinder (@JakeAnbinder) October 8, 2020

Nice

JUST IN: @ABC News will host a town hall with @JoeBiden moderated by @GStephanopoulos on October 15th. The primetime event will take place in Philadelphia where the former vice president will answer questions from voters. pic.twitter.com/7IPzdqK9Sx

— ABC News (@ABC) October 8, 2020

loool

Oh, that's delicious.

twist that knife

"Paid for by the WI Chinese American Business Assocation (um, doubtful?)"

dunno, asian business associations in CA tend to back awful republicans, like most business associations.

A panicky and fumbling Trump agrees to virtual debate after all in 5...4...

Or he's just going to bitch about how unfairly he's being treated like the little bitch he is.

Probably the latter. Biden really doesn't gain anything letting Trump open his mouth, even in a virtual setting. Everyone's decided who they're voting for.

he's going to double-down by holding a rally on the same night. then he'll claim that any media outlet that doesn't prioritize his rally over Biden's town hall is an enemy. that'll fire up his 30% and leave everyone else who notices to roll their eyes

How many times can someone self-sabotage throughout his dumb life and still not manage to turf out completely? Trump is like the Tootsie Pop owl of shooting himself in the dick.

For somebody that 30% of the country fawns over as some sort of "strong man", I'm still amazed by how much he whines about everything.

It's called counter-punching!

Trump is like the Tootsie Pop owl of shooting himself in the dick.

lol, I hope election day is the ker-runch

Yeah for a person who’s done no manual labor ever I really don’t get his strong man rep.

For somebody that 30% of the country fawns over as some sort of "strong man", I'm still amazed by how much he whines about everything.

relatable

oops

For somebody that 30% of the country fawns over as some sort of "strong man", I'm still amazed by how much he whines about everything.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, October 8, 2020 2:57 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Isn't this a pretty common pattern with "strongmen" leaders though? Resentment and perceived slights are often animating factors for his brand of politics.

They don't care if he's whiny, they care if he owns the libs

Meantime on a strict timeline level it's truly amazing how badly Trump is burning out all the remaining weeks. This week is about over and he has only three left, and he hasn't been able to truly control the news on any of them for some time except in terms of him acting the fool.

xpost - I thought most "strongman" leaders were boisterous bullies more than whiners, though.