"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

his foundation is actually doing pretty good stuff (funding a lot of fair election stuff, bankrolling the left side of california ballot measures, etc.) so it's not impossible he still has that in mind and if he wants to spend his money like that then fine with me. but 1) he's a bad person who is bad for the world 2) he's also repulsive in a very visceral way to most humans, and i can't imagine him doing well in an electoral campaign.

AND YET

he's a bad person who is bad for the world

I assume indefinitely means until the next time Republicans have a chance to win a major election.

What it does mean at least is that from Nov 11 to Jan 20, 2021, FB will not be part of any propaganda drive to discredit the election results

, unless they decide to continue being part of a propaganda drive to discredit the election results.

Debate on: when he looks right at Harris, Pence's left eye has a blood bubble by the iris. His body must be rebelling against being alone in a room with two women who aren't Mother.

Good god. I thought Pence would do better than this. He's reciting "under President Trump's leadership" cliches without the shaking-my-head-sadly tactic that worked against Tim Kaine in 2016.

"our COVID plan was amazing, and guess what, Joe Biden's is just like it"

Why would you think he could do better? He is the most platitudinous of empty suits.

Pence's first answer: praises Trump first, then praises his own leadership of COVID task force, runs 30 secs over 2min limit. Second answer: responds to Harris' criticism of his task force's response by saying she's attacking the hard work done by the task force, blows through the moderator stopping him THREE times.
Third question: he blows through moderator ending his time limit so much that she gives up.

This is unlikely to become more edifying; the third q to Harris is predicated on mistrust of vaccines.

Why would you think he could do better? He is the most platitudinous of empty suits.

― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson),

Because he was better at lying in 2016.

attacking the hard work done by the task force the regular American citizenry

Biden/Harris should have insisted that Pence was in an airtight acrylic cage a la Hannibal Lecter.

yeah, but given the abject, anti-Christian horror he's vice-presided over since 2016, it's remarkable that he's still running the same program.

Blew through the moderator SEVEN TIMES just now. Betting that his advisors told him to be forceful, like sweaty baby covid daddy.

Harris is doing pretty well I think

what is the point of this question, besides to play into gop conspiracy theories about biden stepping down

The swine flu answer is so ill advised. Most Americans have forgotten swine flu, they aren't forgetting COVID.

I for one am shocked that anyone could outperform noted charisma generator michael pence

She's terrible and insincere but being mainly stoic / v lightly scoffing at Pence is probably the right move.

what is the point of this question, besides to play into gop conspiracy theories about biden stepping down

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine)

I thought she rambled until I realized that, eah, she sensed, like you, it was a gotcha question.

i hate this. someone answer the question!

oh shit -- the taxes

She's going in on this shit

LITERALLY STACKS

https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/trumps_pence01112017getty.jpg

"...the finger thing means the taxes!"

Infrastructure week!

this debate has so far been so much more sane than the presidential one

That's the problem with it

Pence hides his insanity well. Kinda...

Vice-Prez Mansplain living out his wild fantasy of talking over two women at the same time.

Mike Tyson biting Evander Holyfield's ear off was more sane than the first presidential debate.

this debate is more polite but nobody is answering any of the questions

Pence is lying constantly, not just in general, but about what Harris said literal seconds previous. It remains complete electoral malpractice that this is not corrected by the moderator.

I don’t know why they don’t give each candidate, say, 45 minutes up front, and they can budget them however they like.

Blew through the moderator three times, has now cut in to Harris and has taken up her entire time, without the moderator saying a word.

Wow. She is not awesome.

Just getting rolled by Pence.

Her responses to pence’s interruptions are better than Biden’s for Trump’s

Wow. She is not awesome.

― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:35 PM (nineteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just getting rolled by Pence.

― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday

Wow.

What a troll.

^ cut into = interrupted

"Joe Biden will not ban fracking, he has been 100% clear on that."

^ this is his VP's argument in favour of him btw

Is this crazy? I guess I'm just frustrated that she's so passive in her responses.

“President Trump and I have a plan for healthcare” jesus christ

Top secret plan, will be revealed any minute now

Both sides arguing aggressively for fossil fuel increases. Obviously they got horny watching the Australian federal parliament yesterday.

"If you love someone with a diabetes and a heart condition...they're comin' for you."

They are.

Both sides continue to insist that they will increase fossil fuel extraction.