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I like this theory tbh

the typo doer (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

lol at this becoming the best trump thread suddenly

Chip-vill-A (imago), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

He disregards, or outright refuses, their work. He excludes them, undermines them, can't close his big fat mouth. For better or worse he's been working to replace the world order that gives them a purpose—strategic alliances and clear enemies in a state-based hegemony—with an intn'l network of personal business connections. They hate him.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

he's just negging them

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

so not gonna happen

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

He disregards, or outright refuses, their work.

from the beginning, he seemed to know they were against his presidency. and why is that? just because they leaked the steele dossier? he seemed, right away, to know what that *meant*: he saw it as a first shot against him, but also seemed to know that they could never go against him for real. it was the casual way in which he dismissed the "deep state," before even taking office, that just seemed off to me and demanded an explanation.

i think he was familiar with this crowd and their tricks and knew that they too -- when it was convenient -- partook in the "international network of personal business connections." of all the different parts of the US empire, it was the intelligence community that he saw as the most hypocritical of all.

if trump was really as much of an outsider as he seemed, he would have seemed adrift when he got to washington, unsure of who his allies and enemies were. but he wasn't--he jumped right into it, antagonizing comey and all these other people.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link

my theory isn't that he is working hand in glove with the intelligence community today. it's more like, they have had a mutually beneficial business relationship for years, but one that is strained. and one outcome of it is that he feels he has leverage over them. it never made sense that he didn't try to fire mueller. the entire thing felt like a game of chicken, and then it was mueller at the end who blinked, basically.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link

Mueller’d FBI

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

‘s

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

i know he was fbi, but trump banked on the fact that he wouldn't blow up the cia's spot by uncovering the money laundering scheme. after the patriot act, don't the two agencies work together often anyway?

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:52 (three years ago) link

I think you’re reading logic and intentionality into Trump’s actions when there is no evidence of logic or intentionality ever driving him before.

Boring, Maryland, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

I think you’re reading logic and intentionality into Trump’s actions when there is no evidence of logic or intentionality ever driving him before.


At least, other than for furthering his “brand” and getting to be on “Entertainment Tonight”.

Boring, Maryland, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

that's what the cia bet when they tapped him as an asset--the desperate "billionaire" who would do anything to keep up his lifestyle at a time when he was completely underwater.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

in any case, i don't think my theory requires trump to be logical and cunning. he just needs to be someone who was at one point desperate and willing to get his hands dirty. and also someone who would have already been knowledgeable about the connections between organized crime and US intelligence--you know, able to move between those worlds. and this very much was trump. his mentor was roy cohn.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

Trump was a game show host.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

true. alex trebek and regis philbin also declared net incomes in the negative hundreds of millions every year for decades. it's a game show thing.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

there is *something there* which is why we were all riveted by the russia investigation. but for some reason mueller stopped short at uncovering what that was.

this is just my theory as to why that is. four years into his disastrous presidency, there is still a whole lot we just don't know about him, and it's hard for me to think that isn't in some way intentional.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

in any case, i don't think my theory requires trump to be logical and cunning. he just needs to be someone who was at one point desperate and willing to get his hands dirty. and also someone who would have already been knowledgeable about the connections between organized crime and US intelligence--you know, able to move between those worlds. and this very much was trump. his mentor was roy cohn.


Right but from that you’re asserting that he hates the intelligence community because he knows their games and has their number or whatever when the simpler answer is he was mad at them for implying he had Russian help in the election. All that stuff came out between the election and inauguration. Furthermore he hates all government employees not just the intelligent community.

Boring, Maryland, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:07 (three years ago) link

maybe. but i don't understand why an investigation into whether trump was compromised by russia didn't include a look into who he owes money to. it seems like more than an oversight. there were some things about trump that mueller didn't want america to know about for whatever reason.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link

that's what the cia bet when they tapped him as an asset--the desperate "billionaire" who would do anything to keep up his lifestyle at a time when he was completely underwater.


And sure it could be the CIA, but the world is awash in dirty money from various actors. He really seems to like the Gulf states!

Boring, Maryland, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

yeah, but i just think that would have been exposed by now.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

that's the crux of this. for some reason, US authorities can't touch him, even when he is quite blatantly involved in crimes.

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

^ this run of posts brought to you by Reynolds Aluminum

while my keytar gently bleeps (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

Come on

treeship., Tuesday, 6 October 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link

Actually treeship if you were to tell me to wear foil I’d wear it after these last bunch of posts

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 03:11 (three years ago) link

i confess i'm a sucker for "cia did it" conspiracies because like 75 percent of the time there's *something* to them


^same. the main hitch for me is that Trump is a verifiable idiot and there’s no way he’d be able to keep it to himself.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

that's the crux of this. for some reason, US authorities can't touch him, even when he is quite blatantly involved in crimes.


I’ll keep saying this is more likely: Because society and the government do not treat tax cheating and white color crime as “real” crime.

Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

wtf is that? xpost

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

Bibi Bibi
you put my heart in moootion

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

Anti-semitic pish.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

yeah, i stopped watching that segment when i saw where it was going.

i think, look--occam's razor says boring, maryland is right and he has gotten away with everything because the government never prosecutes white collar crime. i'm 90% sure something like this is the real answer.

but there will always be a part of me that wonders how it got this far. the people he has been dicking over, decade after decade, are also very rich and powerful. and no matter what, the money keeps coming in for him.

treeship., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

It's not a subtle thumbnail.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

yeah, i mean, i think that is something for the mods to remove honestly. we don't need it here.

treeship., Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that was a few steps beyond "controversial." Deleted.

mod, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that was a few steps beyond "controversial." Deleted.


Weird I still see it in Zing.

Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

OK, right, frankly, fuck this.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 October 2020 08:57 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

She said: “She’s everywoman and clothes would have restricted her. Statues in historic costume look like they belong to history because of their clothes.

“It’s crucial that she is ‘now’.

“The whole sculpture is called ‘for Mary Wollstonecraft’ and that’s crucially important. It’s not an idea ‘of’ Mary Wollstonecraft naked… the sculpture is for now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/nov/10/insulting-to-her-mary-wollstonecraft-sculpture-sparks-backlash

this is a terrible statue and maggie hambling's defence is rambling incoherent garbage.

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

wow that's crazy!

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

It could be a statue for like, anything.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

And by removing personality and clothes it removes the whole social world that MW moved in/against which conflict is the whole point idgi

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

Oh wow

I thought the top bit was the main bit

Fuck

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

bad monument for a cool historical figure

treeship., Tuesday, 10 November 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

"Any passing teenage boy is not going to think, oh, that’s an icon of feminist education. They are going to think – tits!"

Can't not do this in a Coogan voice.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link

Smoking should be restricted to specific places even outdoors.

Like, I shouldn't have to breath in the smoke just because three smokers want to walk side by side down the street, blowing smoke back behind them.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link

feel like an unusual amount of time and effort went into the pubes

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

that's a polite way of putting it

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

The writer Caitlin Moran tweeted: “Imagine if there was a statue of a hot young naked guy ‘in tribute’ to eg Churchill. It would look mad. This, also, looks mad.”

This would be much better than any existing monument to Churchill.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

Hot Lincoln statue in LA to thread.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link


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