"Will you shut up, man?" US Politics October 2020

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— Muni (@muni_d1) October 2, 2020

this quote is why this is disastrous for trump (assuming he doesn't die)

“If there are two things the Biden campaign wants this election to be about its Donald Trump the person and his handling of the coronavirus”

Trump diagnoses refocuses race on the pandemic -- again.

W/@fran_chambers (and an assist from @davecatanese)https://t.co/oASB8CzS9G

— Alex Roarty (@Alex_Roarty) October 2, 2020

It's so weird, and so typical, that they keep saying Trump "seemed lethargic," like he's a pet that can't talk and you just have to notice that his nose is dry and his tail is droopy.

Donald and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week

also you don't immediately open with experimental treatments if the symptoms are mild.

that's what i was wondering about. they just announced this and hours later they're giving him 12 different treatments.

aka "The Works."

If I was being generous I'd say they are preemptively doing absolutely everything in their power both to make sure he doesn't get worse and to make him better.

Not what we want to hear, but yes, I'm fairly certain that's what's happening here.

also you don't immediately open with experimental treatments if the symptoms are mild.

you probably do, if you're hoping to avoid severe symptoms... definitely true for antivirals, dunno about monoclonal antibodies but

Choice of thread title this month was almost magically serendipitous. Hats off to ya, Alfred!

experimental treatment

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/nausicaa/images/a/a6/ImmersionTank.jpg

sadly could not find any of the scenes where the minions are all like "no, my liege! you must not leave the tank before the treatment is complete! your fragile body!"

The sooner the experimental treatments, the sooner he can be back on the campaign trail etc. etc. etc.

experimental treatments work*

If I was being generous I'd say they are preemptively doing absolutely everything in their power both to make sure he doesn't get worse and to make him better.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, October 2, 2020 5:03 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

belt and suspendes is fine, but this treatment has not been through large scale safety tests, i.e. this is belt, suspenders and a gun.

Currently phase III, no? Could be way riskier.

BREAKING: Trump, who revealed early this morning he has coronavirus, is leaving the White House for Walter Reed Military Medical Center.

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) October 2, 2020

here we fuckin go lads

At least let's hope it's an experimental gun? Like, a super-duper gun.

maybe he's just going there to finish his physical.

If this is somehow fake news, then the 5D chess here is that this “miracle vaccine” will resurrect him in 2 weeks’ time and he will reenter the race having defeated Covid and promising his followers that magic cure he’s been barfing about just in time for Election Day. The reality tho is that he likely had it first, gave it to everyone else and even came to the debate as The Orange Superspreader.

GL USA.

Currently phase III, no? Could be way riskier.

― pomenitul, Friday, October 2, 2020 5:14 PM (thirty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is not a vaccine (some of those are in phase III). IIUC. the largest trial of this treatment is like 250 people.

Anyway, doesn't seem that strange to me that he would go to the hospital. If he's getting some sort of blood treatment, experimental or no, they probably don't want to administer that in his bedroom. That seems more like Rudy's jam.

I don't think it's fake... he'd be tweeting nonstop is it was fake.

Phases refer to clinical research in general, not just vaccines as far as I know.

2xp

This really does feel like BoJo all over again. Hopefully we'll get a happy ending this time.

Anyway, doesn't seem that strange to me that he would go to the hospital. If he's getting some sort of blood treatment, experimental or no, they probably don't want to administer that in his bedroom. That seems more like Rudy's jam.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, October 2, 2020 5:17 PM (fifteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

he's already had the experimental treatment. it's an injection. it's not a plasma thing.

Phases refer to clinical research in general, not just vaccines as far as I know.

yes but regeneron is not in phase 3! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-29/regeneron-antibody-cocktail-lowers-virus-in-covid-19-patients. the trial was 275 people.

it’s all about Day 10. anybody got a back of the envelope estimate of when that is?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/28/13/282C55AB00000578-3563463-image-a-47_1461846260972.jpg

xpost If he's already had the injection then I imagine they did what they did with Boris, get him closer to the ICU just in case.

Found this, from July:

https://investor.regeneron.com/index.php/news-releases/news-release-details/regeneron-announces-start-regn-cov2-phase-3-covid-19-prevention

WASHINGTON (AP) — White House: Trump to travel to military hospital after COVID-19 diagnosis, remain for 'few days' on advice of doctors.

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) October 2, 2020

lol this guy doesn't do work in an office, why do they bother

“Out of an abundance of caution, and at the recommendation of his physician and medical experts, the president will be working from the presidential offices at Walter Reed for the next few days,” Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany says in a statement.

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) October 2, 2020

That's louder than 'mild,' innit?

captain beef-fart - louder than "mild"

This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you pwn the libs.

Found this, from July:

https://investor.regeneron.com/index.php/news-releases/news-release-details/regeneron-announces-start-regn-cov2-phase-3-covid-19-prevention

― pomenitul, Friday, October 2, 2020 5:21 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah, well further along than i realised, but whatever they reported earlier this week was not phase 3, and phase 3 is not finished. my understanding is that phase 3 is when you find out if its safe btw. you already know it works when it reaches that stage.

I keep wondering if China or Russia during some of this mess the past few months might take a shot at something figuring the US is too much of a basket-case really do do anything about it. I would think if they wanted to by force say take back Tiawan or make a big push in Hong Kong or something in Ukraine, what would happen? Probably too much risk but...

my point is: it's possible (and would not be particularly surprising, given his general health and what they've said publicly about his treatment and their track record of massively underplaying the seriousness of anything covid related) that he's already quite ill.

being moved by helicopter apparently

trump would absolutely not want to be moved to the hospital is something if were reading da tea leaves

Yeah sign of weakness or whatever

xxpost They might face a stiff rebuke from Pompeo!

Trump has had a long distaste for hospitals, and a distrust of medical treatments. Some of his closest allies note Trump wouldn’t allow himself to be hospitalized unless he absolutely had to.

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) October 2, 2020

reporter who broke the story

Figured as much.

It would be funny to get Trump locked up into a Hyperbaric tank and then switch the TV to just The View on endless loop.

My wife just stumped me with this question: when was the last time a sitting president spent multiple days (or even an overnight stay) in the hospital (at least that they public was made aware of).

I guessed Reagan but I'm not sure about the Bushes...

So, I left the computer to go to the store briefly. Anything new to report, lol?

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— Bilge Ebiri (@BilgeEbiri) October 2, 2020

Well y'all, this has been a wild fucking ride