ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

I know some people do genuinely believe the "forensic" thing, but for better or worse they dont seem to actually be in charge of anything.

Sir Haircut is like a baby:

Johnson vaguely talks of “the option to draw on military support to free up the police.”

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) September 22, 2020

Now we're talking! pic.twitter.com/pcWpBxmzg1

— Nikola (@Greasy_Boiler) September 22, 2020

Not sure how things work in whatever formerly industrial backwater you guys grew up in, but round our way the pubs closing (particularly closing early) usually results in bags of booze and all back to someone's house.
This will be disastrous.

i can assure the thread that i can get pissed way before 10pm

Yeah, one of the biggest cultural differences I noticed when I moved to the UK is everyone getting shitfaced right after work and stumbling back home, kebab in hand, around 10/11pm.

BAAAAAANTS

I know how they feel https://t.co/0RSzUjp7Zv

— Michael Gove (@michaelgove) September 22, 2020

What do you think when you see a sack of wet eggs?

KS: I think...respect.

So Long Bailey, Abbott, Burgon have all been pushing for a "zero covid" strategy - and getting some pushback on left twitter that this is totally unworkable. Thoughts?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EihS8oHWoAEPcOv?format=jpg&name=medium

For you see the left keep winning the election for the right you see.

I see the knives are out on parts of Labour left for Starmer's speech. Let's just be really clear about something: Patriotism is not the same as nationalism. And by rejecting patriotism, you make it easier for nationalists to claim a monopoly on love of country.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) September 22, 2020

these people keep saying this but i haven't seen a convincing distinction

i mean especially in the public sphere, especially once you try to politicize it or make political capital of it

but in general

there are threads already for this i'm sure and this should go there

"love of country" is for fucking rubes and racists

Best Tory policy to date

Mate of mine who was an officer in the army has just told me a mate of his has said the army are going to be used for fruit and vegetable picking pic.twitter.com/iVbDTgV5Hg

— terry christian (@terrychristian) September 22, 2020

guns into plowshares is it

I wish our brave lads every success with operation cauliflower, lol it would be nice if this last blast of summer would last but alas its an awful job when it is pissing it down and cold.

it's going to be like then somme in the potato fields of Suffolk, only without the risk of injury or death, so actually not very much like the somme, just a bit muddy, still #heroes

can’t wait to clap for our brave potato-picking squaddies as the death toll ramps up again

Btw for people asking on what to do now Lab is gone here are some further links:

"Whatever our differences over this use of time, money and energy (we were skeptical), the fact of the matter is this: we cannot spend the next five years like we’ve spent the last four."https://t.co/Pc6Bg2CfHG

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) September 22, 2020

(The anarchos in my timeline were fully awake and ready this morning)

🎶send in...the tanks🎶

🎶don't bother
they're here🎶

Ffs don't read the comments

A rule 4 life

Unshocked by this from Trumpson

"I think the continual attacks on local test and trace and what NHS Test and Trace has done are undermining and unnecessary. Actually, there is an important difference between our country and many other countries around the world: our country is a freedom-loving country. If we look at the history of this country over the past 300 years, virtually every advance, from free speech to democracy, has come from this country. It is very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary."

Extremely critical support

So you’re still OK for Boris & Carrie’s ? https://t.co/WtVRatN3gW

— Adam Boulton (@adamboultonSKY) September 22, 2020

Hahahahaha.

An overwhelming 78% of Britons support the new lockdown measures announced today, including 44% who "strongly support" them.

Just 17% of Britons are opposed...https://t.co/cwZ3vSKLpE pic.twitter.com/SUhCkAqC9e

— YouGov (@YouGov) September 22, 2020

Surprise.

Keir Starmer has called for the government to extend or replace furlough

Some disquiet, then, that Labour is ending furlough on 30th Sept — a month before national scheme ends — and that some staff are being let go

(It's understood Lab has not claimed from job retention scheme) pic.twitter.com/aZbp0AOTfc

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) September 22, 2020

Are Labour staff unionised what the fucking fuck

this clarification is ... not good

Source texts to say Labour's furlough scheme was principally for workers who contracts had expired as they were "linked to shadow cabinet posts and this has always been the case"

"It cost the Party hundreds of thousands of pounds and was agreed by Jennie Formby" https://t.co/sebhqZe1Bn

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) September 22, 2020

For who? It’s good that they were kept on a few months, sad party doesn’t see fit to do so longer. Wrt unions there’s no single union for the party, so people are probably represented by different ones.

78% of the GBP support the lockdown measures because they like dobbing in other people and anyway common sense tells them it's fine to have this extended family barbecue and hot tub party we've been planning it for weeks that's just stupid it's the students and the BLMs doing all the spreading

Really, people like the firefighter in the screen shot organising with Momentum...people doing the work is the only way to wipe the smile off cunts like Dan.

Biggest troll on this website, and it is just one more mark of shame on our national press that a man who does nothing but degrade the national conversation is paid several times the average salary for his disproportionate 'contribution' to it. pic.twitter.com/B5en4AmEuV

— Andrew Bartlett (@AndrewBartletta) September 22, 2020

oh fuck Hodges and his overrated senile Blue Labour mum!

I keep seeing pics of shopping trolleys stacked with desperately snatched toilet rolls of panic and despair, but this has had no impact on the bulk-buy markets yet. The cheap stuff is still going for as low as 108 for £16.49 on e-bay, some of these toilet roll magnates that made their fortune in the first months of lockdown 1 now have so many acres of the stuff stacked up in their warehouses, they won't start the price gouging until they've sold at least a million tonnes of these fuckers at normal rates!

People aren't seriously panic-buying again are they?

according to twitter and my mum the toilet roll aisles in ASDA are empty again.

My only metric of what’s going on in the outside world, the availability of Ocado deliveries, suggests yes.

weird. I just had a look on Ocado and there is no toilet roll out of stock, presumably this hasn't hit the south coast yet!

I have a young autist in the house who seems to use quarter of a roll per dump sometimes, so I always bulk buy. I ordered 108 for 18.49 from an e-bay seller last month they didn't arrive within 2 and a half weeks after my payment, so I complained and they sent me 216 as a twofer goodwill gesture and as ruthless as I am I gave them a neutral feedback score!

I use a few different online delivery merchants and despite all the extra recruitment and expansion the big supermarkets did during lockdown 1, those delivery slots are definitely getting taken up much faster now and I could see it getting worse. The fucking price Ocado charge for their bogroll - I'm not surprised they haven't sold out in some regions!

it’s grown from ethically sourced panda dreams

which are more expensive than you’d think, because of the cost of mining them

special toilet roll, if you hang it over your bed at night it catches your dreams and your fingers don't go through the paper. Got to say though the new Ocado partnership with M&S makes me wish I could afford a delivery from them every week, fucking love M&S food. yes now I'm bad as well!

I remember working on a Huntapac carrot line back in '92. When the line supervisor got out those marks & spencer bags, if you put a carrot that looked like a syphilitic cock into one of their hallowed bags ... you might get away with it once.

I stumbled into a Metro article about an expected surge in panic buying and difficulty with delivery slots.
It was full of uncaptioned photos of empty shelves from 6 months ago in order to boost the panic.

i can't see any reason why anybody would panic buy on the other hand there are people who think the rona is an illuminati conspiracy so

I don't know who starts it but it's like Katamari. Within days we'll all be caught in a rolling ever-expanding bog roll that won't stop until someone deflects us into the paracetamol or hand sanitizer levels.

the mad thing is everybody's been thru this now, they know the supermarkets will be open and stocked. panic is a weird thing, like you say, like a stampede

what will be the real doozy will be when the brexit transition period ends and the new panic-buying will be looting and the new police will be armed soldiers (fresh from the sprout plantations of North Wales and ready4action!).

The military will be too busy with the sprouts for a Normal Christmas so we'll need a private militia to replace the replacement rozzers.

Speaking of

I condemn wholeheartedly this erosion of global human rights standards and I am proud to be supporting this amendment, along with other @socialistcam MPs, laying out our opposition. pic.twitter.com/Qu9izS666Y

— Apsana Begum MP (@ApsanaBegumMP) September 23, 2020