ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

My cancelled direct debit should see my membership lapse out of being any day now. Stoked

You didn't inform your branch secretary? No point in taking a stand if you don't ask to speak to the manager imo.

@ThangamMP
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WATCH! Keir Starmer's keynote #LabourConnected (virtual conference) speech as Labour Leader - introduced by my friend Ruth Smeeth.

Smeeth introduced the keynote WTF really?!

XP apparently it will take several months for lj's cancellation to get into the published membership figures. If he wanted to be kicked out sooner he should've just showed he was a green all along or shared his tactical voting preferences.

first the vote of confidence from The Taxpayers Alliance, now Harry Cole says best conference speech in a decade. Blue is the colour this season, baby!

supporting blue, whatever they do, a bit more managerially. what's not to love

If the orthodox Left in Labour doesn't like what we're now doing, they need to explain a) what they would do differently and b) give an explanation for the fiasco they presided over: I've not heard that on a single Zoom call - the replies are open, go ahead ✊🚩

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) September 22, 2020

hitler 'dangerously incompetent' says loto

also - and don't quote me - i'm hearing the fuhrer once took a trip to poland that was against the rules at the time

Creative use of "they" from Mason, as if he wasn't involved at all from 2015 onwards.

Stoya come to rainy fascist island

meanwhile don't go into the office, what idiot told you to do that?

My resignation got a surprisingly sympathetic phone call from my local branch and then months after that an e-mail of meaningless gibberish from Labour HQ.

fucking spice-zombie was plotting with Starmer during the December election campaign

Feel alphie and i probably as much on the same page as we ever are re future directions for the left lol

Absolute car crash pic.twitter.com/ziOPnYYrIa

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) September 22, 2020

Oh mister Wokeman, We will continue to take a stand against you and your anti-Britsh, anti-free speech agenda. Socialism is not the answer and time will demonstrate what a real idiot you are! #ProBrexit, #ProBoris, #ProTrump 🇬🇧 https://t.co/9VvWbnaJF3

— Andrea Jenkyns MP (@andreajenkyns) September 22, 2020

The @Conservatives are running FB ads promoting a ‘petition’ calling on Labour to support their proposed Overseas Operations Bill. https://t.co/R5OLknxow9 pic.twitter.com/3B8sbaJ4Wx

— Who Targets Me (Install our browser extension!) (@WhoTargetsMe) September 22, 2020

Interesting thread here shedding a bit of light on how this stuff works in practice.

what is much funnier than any shit melt-approved parody account is that when you search "Paul Mason People's Vote" Google Searches Related To.. also gives you Paul Mason Spice and Paul Mason Shitting In a Fountain!

xp nobody ever seems to want to go for the "all soldiers are bastards, especially the ones who do war crimes" demographic.

i suspect that every time Labour decides that they must woo the working class/petit bourgie fascist vote it's not really based on solid psephological analysis so much as personal prejudices and stereotypes. maybe i'm wrong, maybe the petit fascists are the deciding constituency, forever

i'd like to see their workings tho

Maybe somebody's already written something good about the proximity of the Party's blood and soil stakhanovite tendency and actual fascists, idk. Feels like a good historical subject

my workings on that would be

1. Most constituencies are in England
2. Most English people are petit bourgeois fascists by nature
3. That's pretty much it

It's not very rigorous tho, however right it feels

in fact i mean it's not very forensic

I know some people do genuinely believe the "forensic" thing, but for better or worse they dont seem to actually be in charge of anything.

Sir Haircut is like a baby:

Johnson vaguely talks of “the option to draw on military support to free up the police.”

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) September 22, 2020

Now we're talking! pic.twitter.com/pcWpBxmzg1

— Nikola (@Greasy_Boiler) September 22, 2020

Not sure how things work in whatever formerly industrial backwater you guys grew up in, but round our way the pubs closing (particularly closing early) usually results in bags of booze and all back to someone's house.
This will be disastrous.

i can assure the thread that i can get pissed way before 10pm

Yeah, one of the biggest cultural differences I noticed when I moved to the UK is everyone getting shitfaced right after work and stumbling back home, kebab in hand, around 10/11pm.

BAAAAAANTS

I know how they feel https://t.co/0RSzUjp7Zv

— Michael Gove (@michaelgove) September 22, 2020

What do you think when you see a sack of wet eggs?

KS: I think...respect.

So Long Bailey, Abbott, Burgon have all been pushing for a "zero covid" strategy - and getting some pushback on left twitter that this is totally unworkable. Thoughts?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EihS8oHWoAEPcOv?format=jpg&name=medium

For you see the left keep winning the election for the right you see.

I see the knives are out on parts of Labour left for Starmer's speech. Let's just be really clear about something: Patriotism is not the same as nationalism. And by rejecting patriotism, you make it easier for nationalists to claim a monopoly on love of country.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) September 22, 2020

these people keep saying this but i haven't seen a convincing distinction

i mean especially in the public sphere, especially once you try to politicize it or make political capital of it

but in general

there are threads already for this i'm sure and this should go there

"love of country" is for fucking rubes and racists

Best Tory policy to date

Mate of mine who was an officer in the army has just told me a mate of his has said the army are going to be used for fruit and vegetable picking pic.twitter.com/iVbDTgV5Hg

— terry christian (@terrychristian) September 22, 2020

guns into plowshares is it

I wish our brave lads every success with operation cauliflower, lol it would be nice if this last blast of summer would last but alas its an awful job when it is pissing it down and cold.

it's going to be like then somme in the potato fields of Suffolk, only without the risk of injury or death, so actually not very much like the somme, just a bit muddy, still #heroes

can’t wait to clap for our brave potato-picking squaddies as the death toll ramps up again

Btw for people asking on what to do now Lab is gone here are some further links:

"Whatever our differences over this use of time, money and energy (we were skeptical), the fact of the matter is this: we cannot spend the next five years like we’ve spent the last four."https://t.co/Pc6Bg2CfHG

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) September 22, 2020

(The anarchos in my timeline were fully awake and ready this morning)

🎶send in...the tanks🎶

🎶don't bother
they're here🎶

Ffs don't read the comments

A rule 4 life

Unshocked by this from Trumpson

"I think the continual attacks on local test and trace and what NHS Test and Trace has done are undermining and unnecessary. Actually, there is an important difference between our country and many other countries around the world: our country is a freedom-loving country. If we look at the history of this country over the past 300 years, virtually every advance, from free speech to democracy, has come from this country. It is very difficult to ask the British population uniformly to obey guidelines in the way that is necessary."

Extremely critical support

So you’re still OK for Boris & Carrie’s ? https://t.co/WtVRatN3gW

— Adam Boulton (@adamboultonSKY) September 22, 2020

Hahahahaha.