People that you've never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows -- US Politics September 2020

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Susan Collins might scowl and offer a strong rebuttal to that kind of talk!

beamish13, Sunday, 20 September 2020 20:13 (five years ago)

The people wigging out over it are wasting their breath. He routinely says he might do things at rallies that he knows he can't cos his voters like it. Then he doesn't do anything.

origami condom (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 September 2020 20:14 (five years ago)

Most of the harmful shit he's done hasn't been telegraphed like this

origami condom (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 September 2020 20:14 (five years ago)

I’m Joe Biden and I approve this message. pic.twitter.com/TuRZXPE5xK

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 20, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 20 September 2020 21:04 (five years ago)

That's good! More of that, Joe.

clemenza, Sunday, 20 September 2020 21:07 (five years ago)

whoa

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 September 2020 21:26 (five years ago)

that right there is one of the best political ads in US history

akm, Sunday, 20 September 2020 22:08 (five years ago)

Just a little ... schadenfreude? Perspective? I don't know, but I stumbled on this and while I in no way agree it's nice to be reminded that the other side feels the same way.

https://www.facebook.com/dan.bongino/posts/3553283938097675

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 September 2020 13:27 (five years ago)

The New York Post reports:

New York City was among three cities labeled “anarchist jurisdictions” by the Justice Department on Sunday and targeted to lose federal money for failing to control protesters and defunding cops, The Post has learned.

Portland, Ore., and Seattle, Wash., were the other two cities on the list, which was approved by US Attorney General William Barr.

“When state and local leaders impede their own law-enforcement officers and agencies from doing their jobs, it endangers innocent citizens who deserve to be protected, including those who are trying to peacefully assemble and protest,” Barr said in a statement set to be released Monday.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 September 2020 13:42 (five years ago)

Just a little ... schadenfreude? Perspective? I don't know, but I stumbled on this and while I in no way agree it's nice to be reminded that the other side feels the same way.

little bit of a dark, everything-is-meaningless lol at how it only takes two comments on this post for everyone to start agreeing that hillary clinton personally murdered antonin scalia

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2020 13:48 (five years ago)

dan bongino's head looks like one of those expensive japanese watermelons grown into the shape of a cube

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 21 September 2020 13:59 (five years ago)

Really good, if somewhat depressing, interview with Ilhan Omar.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 21 September 2020 14:02 (five years ago)

Barr should have been impeached right after Trump. Dude scares me at a level Trump doesn't (and even Sessions didn't)

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 September 2020 14:15 (five years ago)

yeah when people talk about their fear of competent fascists in the GOP I immediately think of Barr

frogbs, Monday, 21 September 2020 14:44 (five years ago)

yikes

Have any of your Republican colleagues ever reached out, publicly or privately, and said the use of violent imagery or language toward you is not OK? No. There are really no dissenters. We have now had a few death threats that have been very publicized where people have been arrested and are incarcerated for it. I can’t remember a public statement or private comment of support.

Really? No Republican member of the House or Senate has ever offered any words of support? Nope

frogbs, Monday, 21 September 2020 14:48 (five years ago)

been a while

Odds of stimulus checks: Down

Odds of government shutdown: Up https://t.co/yXXoJUPrqE

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) September 21, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:10 (five years ago)

According to 538, the only time in the last two years that Trump's approval rating has dropped below 40% was in January 2019, as the last shutdown dragged on.

jaymc, Monday, 21 September 2020 18:37 (five years ago)

that time it was undeniably trump's shutdown. it was all about money for his fucking Wall. he owned it completely. this time the democrats are likely to take the blame if it happens. i'm inclined to think Pelosi is playing at brinksmanship to deflect accusations that Democrats cave in too quickly.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:42 (five years ago)

A wild document. Felony collective punishment for anyone who attends a protest where property is damaged, while vehicular murder or manslaughter is effectively legalized. Plus if your city council acts to reduce the police budget, the state defunds everything. https://t.co/0scGoFd1XO

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) September 21, 2020

jfc

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:49 (five years ago)

Ice-T is...not wrong?

‘Tradition’ is Peer Pressure from dead people.

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) September 21, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:53 (five years ago)

It never fails to amaze me how much of a hard-on the "pro life" party gets for being allowed to plow people down with their pickup trucks.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:17 (five years ago)

Is there a band yet called Toppling Monuments? Or maybe a podcast.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 21 September 2020 19:35 (five years ago)

this time the democrats are likely to take the blame if it happens.

why?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:38 (five years ago)

if the government shuts down then the story will be that instead of agreeing to the Senate relief bill, containing hundreds of billions of dollars in relief, the House shut down the government, costing billions instead. but my belief is that Pelosi has watched every single government shutdown blow up in the face of the party deemed responsible for it and she will finally throw in her hand at the last minute, with the statement that Democrats tried, but Republican intransigence was to blame for not getting peple what they desperately need. This outcome is easily the most likely in my view.

how do you imagine it playing out differently?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:53 (five years ago)

Did the Democrats get blamed for not signing on to that bullshit Senate covid relief bill last week or whenever? At this point the lines are so demarcated that it's hard for me to believe the Dems get blamed for anything, per se. Anyone they lose with a light visible at the end of the tunnel was never going to vote for them anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:00 (five years ago)

As of last week (and this one) the government is still funded.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:02 (five years ago)

i imagine all house dems getting run over by a pickup truck with a flag in it xp

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:04 (five years ago)

legal in Florida!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:04 (five years ago)

Stand and Be Ground!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:05 (five years ago)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/redstate-covid-troll-streiff-is-actually-bill-crews-and-he-actually-works-for-dr-anthony-fauci

is this even real

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:14 (five years ago)

The sticking point for the CR appears to be big ag subsidies, no relief beyond that is on the table AFAIK

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:15 (five years ago)

Sen. Jeff Brandes, R-St. Petersburg, who has long called for criminal justice reform measures, said he was not in contact with Republican leadership in the run-up to the announcement. Brandes said it is unclear to him why Florida’s current laws are insufficient in dealing with unruly protests.

“I can’t see someone who throws a brick at law enforcement not getting six months without a mandatory minimum,” Brandes said, noting early Monday afternoon that he had not read the entire proposal. “While I agree we have to support law enforcement 100 percent, we also have to recognize the right afforded to citizens to peacefully protest.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article245895445.html

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:17 (five years ago)

For whatever little it's worth, the Lincoln Project people are coming out against confirmation of a SC justice before the election. Still don't trust those MF-ers as far as I could throw them, but it's surprising to see. I dunno, christ, at this point I'm clinging to any little thing I can.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:39 (five years ago)

Manchin joined the after-the-election team.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:41 (five years ago)

so if Biden wins, are we to assume that the after-the-election would vote No during the lame duck period? because their statements seem carefully designed to leave that possibility open

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:49 (five years ago)

would not put it past collins or murkowski or manchin or anything of these people to just install a federalist society judge directly after receiving a beatdown at the polls

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:50 (five years ago)

So far those Lincoln assholes have not wavered one inch from their Negate Trump and his enablers stance.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:51 (five years ago)

For whatever little it's worth, the Lincoln Project people are coming out against confirmation of a SC justice before the election.

They're also going after Lindsey Graham.

We’re raising another $1 million to expose Lindsey Graham.

Thanks to you, his race is a dead heat as voters are now finally recognizing the extent of his cowardice.

Lindsey is petrified at the threat of a Trump tweet.

Let’s remind him who he answers to: https://t.co/DXX2Id5AJh pic.twitter.com/YFhVL4GvrU

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) September 21, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 21 September 2020 20:51 (five years ago)

I don't trust any of these "we should let the winner of the November election pick the next justice" stances for a second. I could totally see a scenario where someone like Barrett delivers a seemingly moderate or at least even-keeled confirmation performance and suddenly those senators completely change their tune to "well, now that we've all had a chance to listen to Ms. Barrett I think everyone would agree she is an excellent choice and so she has my blessing." in that sense I think Kavanaugh's diaper fit was maybe the best thing that could have ever happened to the GOP because everyone else is going to look good by comparison

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 21 September 2020 21:09 (five years ago)

The Department of Justice released details early on Monday morning explaining why three Democrat-controlled cities have been designated “anarchist jurisdictions.”

The DOJ identified the cities as being cities that permitted extremist violence and destruction of property to continue while taking action to stop the criminal acts. The department designated New York City, Portland, and Seattle as being “anarchist jurisdictions.”

The DOJ released the following criteria for evaluating whether a U.S. city is a “anarchist jurisdiction”:

Whether a jurisdiction forbids the police force from intervening to restore order amid widespread or sustained violence or destruction.
Whether a jurisdiction has withdrawn law enforcement protection from a geographical area or structure that law enforcement officers are lawfully entitled to access but have been officially prevented from accessing or permitted to access only in exceptional circumstances, except when law enforcement officers are briefly withheld as a tactical decision intended to resolve safely and expeditiously a specific and ongoing unlawful incident posing an imminent threat to the safety of individuals or law enforcement officers.
Whether a jurisdiction disempowers or defunds police departments.
Whether a jurisdiction unreasonably refuses to accept offers of law enforcement assistance from the Federal Government.
Any other related factors the Attorney General deems appropriate.

The Department then released information on the three cities to receive the designation of being an “anarchist jurisdiction.”

New York City:

Shootings in New York City have been on the rise since looting and protests began on or about May 28, 2020. For July 2020, shootings increased from 88 to 244, an increase of 177% over July 2019. In August 2020, shootings increased from 91 to 242, a 166% increase over August 2019.
While the city faced increased unrest, gun violence, and property damage, the New York City Council cut $1 billion from NYPD’s FY21 budget.
The budget resulted in the cancellation of the new police recruiting class, cuts to overtime spending, and the transfer of certain police functions, including school safety, out of the NYPD.
Meanwhile, the Manhattan and Brooklyn District Attorneys have declined to prosecute charges of disorderly conduct and unlawful assembly arising from the protests, and the District Attorneys in Queens and the Bronx have declined to prosecute other protest-related charges.
Both Mayor de Blasio and Governor Cuomo have forcefully rejected federal law enforcement support.

Portland:

This month, Portland marked 100 consecutive nights of protests marred by vandalism, chaos, and even killing.
Those bent on violence regularly started fires, threw projectiles at law enforcement officers, and destroyed property. Numerous law enforcement officers, among others, suffered injury.
Shootings increased by more than 140% in June and July 2020 compared to the same period last year.
In the midst of this violence, the Portland City Council cut $15 million from the police bureau, eliminating 84 positions. Crucially, the cuts included the Gun Violence Reduction Team, which investigates shootings, and several positions from the police team that responds to emergency incidents.
In August, Portland Mayor Wheeler sent a letter to President Trump expressly rejecting the Administration’s offer of federal law enforcement to stop the violent protests.

Seattle:

For nearly a month, starting in June, the City of Seattle permitted anarchists and activists to seize six square blocks of the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood, naming their new enclave the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” (CHAZ) and then the “Capitol Hill Occupied Protest” (CHOP).
Law enforcement and fire fighters were precluded from entering the territory. The Seattle Police Department was ordered to abandon their precinct within the CHOP.
Person-related crime in the CHOP increased 525% from the same period of time in the same area the year before, including by Mayor Durkan’s own count “two additional homicides, 6 additional robberies, and 16 additional aggravated assaults (to include 2 additional non-fatal shootings).”
The CHOP was allowed to stand for nearly a month, during which time two teenagers were shot and killed in the zone.
The Seattle City Council, Mayor Durkan, and Washington Governor Jay Inslee publicly rejected federal involvement in law enforcement activities within the city of Seattle.

“When state and local leaders impede their own law enforcement officers and agencies from doing their jobs, it endangers innocent citizens who deserve to be protected, including those who are trying to peacefully assemble and protest,” Attorney General William Barr said in a statement. “We cannot allow federal tax dollars to be wasted when the safety of the citizenry hangs in the balance. It is my hope that the cities identified by the Department of Justice today will reverse course and become serious about performing the basic function of government and start protecting their own citizens.”

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:01 (five years ago)

jfc things are going to get a lot worse in the next month and a half

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:03 (five years ago)

Speaking of CHAZ/CHOP, another internal investigation concluded last week that the cop who directly pepper-sprayed a seven-year-old in the face should face no censure,as this action was "lawful and proper," and in line with policy.

(A stringer for the New York Daily News covered this within hours; the NYT has yet to weigh in on how this makes the child look bad.)

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:06 (five years ago)

finally, i've been waiting my whole life to live in an anarchist jurisdiction

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:08 (five years ago)

I'm genuinely shocked Chicago isn't on the list, considering how much Lightfoot and Pritzker pushed back against his bs.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:12 (five years ago)

how do you imagine it playing out differently?

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, September 21, 2020 3:53 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

people blame the government when the government shuts down. people think the president and his party are the government (they're not wrong). therefore the republicans will get the blame.

(i agree pelosi will fold.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:29 (five years ago)

Previous shutdown polling, make of it what you will
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/01/18/americans-view-this-shutdown-much-as-they-did-past-ones-negatively-and-with-much-anxiety/

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:49 (five years ago)

if people think the parties are equally to blame then that's bad news for the party with ~8 incumbent senators in close elections, and good news for the party with ~1 incumbent senator who will lose whatever happens.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 September 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

there won't be a shutdown before the election btw. the republicans are unfortunately not stupid enough.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:02 (five years ago)

Gauntlet: thrown!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2020 23:13 (five years ago)


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