the only person that was done to who moved to canada was a sock/troll who was posting like a 17 year old and saying things like "i don't care though, i live in canada," which i think invites some maltreatment
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
xp this has already been addressed by several people!
― scampo italiano (gyac), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
The emperor's response to that proto-fascist bit is quite fascinating, and considerably more progressive than anything that's ever come out of Donnie Trump's mouth.
For the curious: http://www.yorku.ca/pswarney/Texts/annales-11-23-25.htm
3xp
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
it's largely unknowable and Robert Graves hasn't helped the picture but Claudius seems to have been a good egg, for an Emperor
― how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
It’s not being foreign that seems to be an issue, it’s the “can’t believe you’re all too stupid to see this” attitude that gets people FP’d into oblivion
This is mostly true. I can think of specific instances where posters (whom I otherwise like) told non-US posters who aren't Fred to stay out of the US politics threads.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
I can too, I think it’s mostly resorting to ad hominem because a real argument would be uncomfortable/take too long to type
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
That makes it worse, though?
― scampo italiano (gyac), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
I think it's hard for Americans to grok just how much of an indelible mark their political squabbles leave on other countries, and I'm not just talking about obvious examples like Irak.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
Most posters should stay out of US politics threads. Including Americans.
― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
A sensible take tbh.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
2xp Iraq, rather.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
it’s more tone than content and just not being a dick? not complicated
― brimstead, Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
that was unreadable, plz ingore
― brimstead, Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
Far be it from me to suggest that “oh yeah well you’re a foreigner” being the ad hominem to which ppl automatically resort says something about the tenor of the country thread, but
― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Sunday, 20 September 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link
God I'd love a pplains roundup of daily UK news
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, December 20, 2017 5:32 PM
And then he left in to the good night.
― pplains, Sunday, 20 September 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
I know I’ve been a total dick on these boards so I shouldn’t even be talking. I’m sorry all. I appreciate you. Over and out.
― brimstead, Sunday, 20 September 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
You haven't been a total dick. Yr good peeps
― origami condom (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 September 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
I just want to know who is the new Fred?
― sarahell, Sunday, 20 September 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link
Probably beamish13
― origami condom (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 September 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
All of us. We are all the new Fred B.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link
I'm not
― sarahell, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
That's such a Fred thing to say.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
We're all Flintstones kids
― origami condom (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
Tbh I miss Fred's contributions to the classical music threads.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
Someone should draw up a metric for how much rape apologism is acceptable relative to the poster’s other good posts so we don’t have to do this every time.
― scampo italiano (gyac), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
the odd thing about Fred in this whole thing is that he was always working overtime apologizing for some of the shittiest Americans most responsible for policies impacting the rest of the world. He spent a million words admonishing those of us who have to live in this shithole against advocating too strongly for real change.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
At least, after 2x 51 bannings, Fred got the message (so far). There was one weird post on the mubi thread so I don't discount the prick coming back for another round.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
I’m sure he misses you most
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
Someone should draw up a metric for how much rape apologism is acceptable relative to the poster’s other good posts so we don’t have to do this every time.― scampo italiano (gyac), Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:28 PM (thirteen minutes ago)
― scampo italiano (gyac), Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:28 PM (thirteen minutes ago)
otm!
― sarahell, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
oh, i am totally one of those posters that gets annoyed at posters in canada but that is by coincidence. there were just a couple of instances of them posting the same stuff 10 times a day, o'er multiple days. I got annoyed, who cares. We should all be banned.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 September 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
I got annoyed, who cares. We should all be banned.
New board description plz.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link
Co-sign
― origami condom (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 September 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link
Permaban the internet
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 20 September 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link
-Childish Gambino
― origami condom (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 September 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link
boomer opinion
― scampo italiano (gyac), Monday, 21 September 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link
don't think this thread has made a convincing case for why Fred should have been banned
― Dan S, Monday, 21 September 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
sorry we didn't arbitrarily spend all weekend combing two-three years of data in 24 hours time to put together an Exhibit A for you
(ulysses asked for some examples because he was genuinely curious - he didn't ask us to put together a legal brief)
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 September 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
plus, Fred is currently unbanned and has posted recently but has stated he has no desire to come back.
yeah I don’t think that is the intended function of this thread. Maybe the 102 fp’s can do the convincing.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 21 September 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
whatever, he posted in earnest whether or not you liked his posts
― Dan S, Monday, 21 September 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
Not sure what earnestness has to with it, there’s no shortage of deeply sincere troublemakers in the world. Anyway it’s nothing to litigate, it happened.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 21 September 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link
earnestness matters a lot to me, it's why I like ilx
― Dan S, Monday, 21 September 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link
are you Oscar Wilde
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 September 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
i mean it is kinda rude, though, it's like having a friend crying and telling you this person is constantly making your life hell, and responding "really? name 15 exact things she's done and I need it in the next five minutes, or else I will not believe you"
:) I did see the 1952 film recently
― Dan S, Monday, 21 September 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
fred's bans were both ages ago. if you really want to understand why, the only way is to go back and read all the posts about them from that time. nobody else is going to put together a history of it that's much use. certainly the time to litigate it would have been back then --- everything looks better in vague hindsight without all the posts in front of us.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 September 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
Part of the way genocide jokes work is a) it matters who is making them (e.g. few people think it's unacceptable for Jews to joke about the Shoah); b) insofar as genocide is the epitome of human nihilism, it screams 'desacralization', i.e. nothing can ever be sacred again after such an event, including genocide, so we might as well make fun of it for cathartic purposes. The second condition was definitely met here as far as I'm concerned, it's the first that is still up for debate, at least in the context of ILX.
― sock solipsist (pomenitul), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
I have no idea what this in relation to
― seumas milm (gyac), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
Quick derail re: yr post, pom: I just don't agree with the premise that *anyone* can make fun of genocide after its event as elucidated in yr point b, and joking about indigenous genocide if yr a settler is ghastly, afaic. i don't want to assume unperson's ethnic background, but I don't think my stance is one of leftist sanctimony run amok— it's one of not wanting to poke at wounds that are still festering due to the hegemonic political ideology in the US.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link