ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020

It would be madness not to close the pubs but looking at what they’ve done in Newcastle a part of me wouldn’t be surprised if it were lockdown 2 brought to you by Wetherspoon

― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Sunday, 20 September 2020 11:10 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

national lock-in

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that onion is always in her hankie

all that is missing that *emotive* John Legend track that almost ruined that Selma movie!

A tough few months for many to begin from today.

Today (20 Sept) is the last day of the eviction ban.

We've put together a quick guide explaining what the current notice periods are, and where the law stands until March 2021.https://t.co/iMHSqolZyA pic.twitter.com/UVjuYuhCuy

— Southampton SolFed (@sotonsolfed) September 20, 2020

Absolutely fucking miserable

🚨 EXCLUSIVE @repubblica 🚨
According to a statement and local sources, Boris Johnson recently travelled to Perugia, in Italy, apparently on the Sept 12-13th weekend.
No 10 dismisses it: “That’s wrong”.
My story with @irvine76 https://t.co/gtdLWIY0YY

— Antonello Guerrera (@antoguerrera) September 20, 2020

Interesting. My usual instinct is “lol nothing will happen”, but all the papers have been unsubtly aligning against him for a while.

I mean it wasn’t illegal (and appears to have a single dodgy eyewitness) so I’m with your first instinct. But this guy, ffs

11am Whitty presser tomorrow, that’s unusual

Resigning

Vallance as well so I guess they're delivering bad news the PM doesn't want to be associated with.

Assuming he’s in the country

Only on the 3rd time of asking did Schapps say he didn't know where Boris was having avoided the question the first two times...

And then made a point of saying Italy is in a travel corridor anyway.

You’re only as cavalier with public money as our current Chancellor if you don’t know the value of it.

Instead, I would take a responsible approach - so that public money was targeted at protecting jobs, jobs, jobs. https://t.co/MsOIhK0PqU

— Anneliese Dodds (@AnnelieseDodds) September 21, 2020

just a little taster of the transformative politics we can look forward to in the next manifesto

lol at matt dc posting a couple of days ago that we basically never see dodds and now... this

happy if she goes away again now

just need Rachel Reeves to come out and repeat her 2013 line that Labour need to be tougher on benefits cuts than the Tories and its almost a complete replica of Miliband Labour, but with a more conservative leader.

waiting for Starmer to say he feels a huge swell of pride when he sees a white van with a England flag on it.

Someone remind me how Labour did in 2015, because these fools seem to have forgotten.

Obligatory post about “how does he have a job ffs”

“Today we have ended the franchise system after a quarter of a century” says @grantshapps. So most risk of running railway will henceforth be with the government. In normal times, this would be a huge moment. John Major’s nationalisation is dead

— Robert Peston (@Peston) September 21, 2020

if most of the risk is with the government could you just clarify for me where most of the profits will go Pesto?

most competent manager is a shit strategy because you don't even need to be competent to retain credibility with the electorate, light blue Labour will always lose competence competitions against Tories with shit actors like Dodds and Starmzy's dismal angry Roy Cropper routine.

Starmer Labour have really picked a great time for attacking the govt on spending, like when there is going to be record high unemployment. Great fucking strategy lads.

garbage slogans, garbage people, garbage politics and jobs jobs jobs!

if most of the risk is with the government could you just clarify for me where most of the profits will go Pesto?

There won't be any profits for a long while and one of the reasons it's dead is that it isn't an attractive enough investment for anyone to pour money into. I'm sure it'll be spun as a political paradigm shift but it's basically a bailout of rail firm and there's no guarantee they won't quietly reprivatise them when it becomes commercially feasible. Private companies are still operating the trains and there'll still be a flow of public money to them.

Also Peston apparently doesn't know the difference between nationalisation and privatisation.

Literally the only thing that is popular about the government right now (other than the racism) is the fact they've been spraying cash everywhere. Labour is clearly going to oppose the end of furlough so they'll have to spend precious airtime explaining the supposed differences between good public spending and bad public spending, at which point audiences will switch off and stop listening.

"Also Peston apparently doesn't know the difference between nationalisation and privatisation."

This is embarrassing.

I've finally looked up who 'Roy Cropper' is.

I can see a slight resemblance to KS. But CORONATION STREET has 7 million viewers per episode which is only about 15% of the UK population. Not sure everyone out there is going to get this supposedly obvious attack line.

in recent YouGov poll 98.9% of respondents knew who Roy Cropper was but said who the "fuck is this cunt" when shown a pic of Sir Kieth throttling a donkey

Dozens of Tory MPs set to refuse unconscious bias training

Starmzy would make all his racist MP's complete the training. #NewLeadership

in recent YouGov poll 98.9% of respondents knew who Roy Cropper was but said who the "fuck is this cunt" when shown a pic of Sir Kieth throttling a donkey

:D

Science brief from Downing St with bad numbers and no policy change.

Presumably the PM hasn't got a nanny and was busy feeding the wean.

Potential for doubling of cases every week meaning we could be looking at 50k new cases per day by mid October.

That's a £500 lump sum. If you're expected to self-isolate for two weeks, that's £7.14 an hour based on a 35 hour week. The National Minimum Wage is £8.72 an hour. https://t.co/Pch1FVwZiN

— ACABology (@cheersdeclarer) September 19, 2020

Prof Whitty says the mortality rate will be slightly reduced this autumn and winter because treatment is better now - but there will still be many deaths.

He also talks about the decisions that ministers will have to take - balancing the impact on the economy with the danger of the virus.

"If we do too little, this virus will go out of control," he said.

But if we go too far the other way we can cause damage to the economy, he says, which will have its own long-term health effects.

Re: the last bit, it gets trotted out a lot but no one ever says what health effects these will be, and whether they would be worse than tens of thousands of excess deaths per year (and tens of thousands more with long-term debilitating after-effects).

Basically people that can't afford to miss work and have the virus will go. They might be fined but they won't pay it (because they can't) and will also be blamed for the increase in deaths xp

Even if they did take it upon themselves to pay proper sick pay it still wouldn't solve the problem of apparently widespread asymptomatic transmission.

my word, they've caught up with where a bunch of meme twitter accounts were a week ago https://t.co/4VA2AW345I

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) September 21, 2020

“Endless treasury schemes and failed PPE contracts have cost hard-pressed taxpayers billions, but alternative expenditure is not the answer." 💬

Our response the shadow chancellor's Labour Party conference speech. 👇https://t.co/Cx7CxCTLiH

— TaxPayers' Alliance (@the_tpa) September 21, 2020

critical support for Dodds from the right wing think tank that would have the unemployed, pensioners and the disabled liquidated

Lads I don't think tax cuts and deregulation are going to get you out of a recession caused by a highly contagious killer virus.

it gets trotted out a lot but no one ever says what health effects these will be, and whether they would be worse than tens of thousands of excess deaths per year (and tens of thousands more with long-term debilitating after-effects).

DC is correct. The claim that economic downturn is equivalent to pandemic in terms of mass death and profound health damage is false. It shouldn't be allowed.

PS: surprised no one on here has yet mentioned the officially denied claim that the foul current UK PM took a secret trip to Italy.

Lol fuck this party

“We are a party of equality, we take it seriously”

Labour MP Wes Streeting wants “to look what we can do better as a party” on the rights of trans people and transphobia#PoliticsLive https://t.co/fZS7MwXSF2 pic.twitter.com/eRmcJz03Xw

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) September 21, 2020

Streeting is the kind of MP they invite on all the time because they know he'll make a cunt of himself and the party that lets him do it

PS: surprised no one on here has yet mentioned the officially denied claim that the foul current UK PM took a secret trip to Italy.

The timeline printed in the Italian press is amusing. The outward leg coincides with the time he was addressing an emergency meeting on the EU bill 'from no.10' but his internet kept going down so Michael Fabricant sang Rule Britannia to fill the time. On the return leg, the flight was delayed and a bunch of his evening engagements were cancelled. If his spokespeople are lying, they've been lying since the 17th.

I don't like talking about the disgusting PM in detail but - that particular meeting is, surely, the one about which people here on ILX were speculating about a resignation announcement?

If so, odd that it was dramatically pre-announced when the scumbag PM was secretly abroad.

Loving the sight of Perguia airport backtracking, un-backtracking, now contradicting itself

DC is correct. The claim that economic downturn is equivalent to pandemic in terms of mass death and profound health damage is false. It shouldn't be allowed.

If the response is, as I expect, more severe and prolonged austerity, then there will be huge casualties.