Bill Maher - classic!

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john stewart did it too. he played a clip of brian williams from nbc interviewing sharpton after his speech and williams sez something like: "you didn't look at the prompter for over half an hour there. you just started riffing on whatever you were riffing on!" comepletely dismissing what he had just said in his speech. Then Stewart went off on that.

but back to fresh air, after Maher, she had colin quinn on and he just sounded like the biggest fucking idiot you have ever heard in your life.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

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― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone actually like Colin Quinn?

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic for putting Jarvis Cocker on 'Politically Incorrect', pretty annoying in most other respects.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

the fun thing is that half of the guys on Colin's show are bigger idiots than he, a point he realizes(see his Onion AVClub interview).

xp some of his shows can be worthwhile.

still, better, more substantive debate is had on ep of Crossballs...

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah like nader!

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't mind Quinn but his show's just boring. Too short and the format cuts in with commercials all the time.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate colin quinn, but then i hate maher too and this thread is making me grudgingly appreciate him.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

People kept telling me to watch Quinn's "Tough Crowd" but I could never sit through it. Colin's generic stand up buddies making the most obvious jokes about the news. It was like dumbed down "Politically Incorrect," if you can imagine such a thing.

― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

also the whole "i'm just a reg'lar guy see look i flub every one of my fucking lines" thing gets old in about 15 seconds flat.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't mind if they just called each other offensive racial epithets and laughed but Tough Crowd is all too short for them to develop any real dialogue.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Colin Quinn sounding like Big Fucking Idiot non-shockah

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

They should just change it to the 'Tough Guy (they wish) Crowd'.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah he says things i agree with sometimes but again.. calling out negative media reaction to sharpton = "sky is blue" -- also i think affirmative action is totally libertarian insofar as institutional racism is er, institutional, a mechanism of power and control to be chafed against, and it's good he's in that corner but in a way it's not, because when he chafes against something he chafes petulantly. dude i don't kow if his HBO show still includes his little "moment of shit" where he turns to the camera and does some kind of tony danza meets dennis miller monologue and practises his smirks from difference angles. i wonder if this is a different issue than his fair-weather politics or not? i don't know what libertarianism Actually Is, but is suspect that matters much less than what people think it is. i keep thinking Colin Quinn's show would be fall-down funny hysterical if he did everything exactly the same, except dressed up like his own grandmother.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

That last idea is good, it would be kind of like 'Mamma's Family'.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

haha who knew they had this many opinions about bill maher and colin quinn? IT'S THE MAGIC OF THE INTERNET.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

well, you know, when Maher said what he said about the terrorists, wasn't that like the first time on t.v. after 9/11 that someone had gone against the standard line on t.v.? and he got fired for it. (for expressing his un-p.c. opinion. har har.) and he may say that he was relieved NOW, but still, it must have given him a lot of grief. It could have killed his entire career. I'm mentioning this cuzza what someone said about his views=no discomfort for himself personally.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

but everyone OTM about the whole smug, sleazy, playboy mansion thing he has going on. I'm just really used to nerds who move to hollywood and become rich swingers so it doesn't bother me too much.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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"dude i don't kow if his HBO show still includes his little "moment of shit" where he turns to the camera and does some kind of tony danza meets dennis miller monologue"

I haven't seen the recent shows but I agree that segment is totally annoying.

Calling out negative media reaction to Sharpton would only be too obvious if the media made an issue of it themselves. More than calling it out, Maher/Stewart are being critical and asking questions about it. People aren't skeptical enough toward the news media's dangerous bias for this to be a cliche.

― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

even the "terrorists are courageous" line is something that cannot be said except in a posture of patting yourself on the back for saying it--everything he says is basically in this posture i think.
-- ryan (augustuscaesar2...), August 3rd, 2004.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM, I mean.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Ew I don't like seeing Jon Stewart's name enslashed with Bill Maher's like that.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Why shouldn't Maher pat himself on the back for deviating from the party line?

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― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

He had a problem with the terrorists being called cowards, right? and then he said that it was more cowardly to lob bombs at a country a 1000 miles away. Yeah, that's a posture you hear all the time on network t.v.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the PI clip in which Maher made the controversial statement about terrorists. It wasn't regarded as that outlandish in context. He was actually agreeing with another panelist in refuting the administration's dumbass talking point device of referring to terrorists as "cowards." It's kind of scary that it became controversial in the first place.

― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it was really just when he said it. But even now, you don't hear those kind of things on the networks.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The comparison between impersonal missile launches and the suicidal terrorist (and the differing degrees of testicular fortitude required for each) is almost exactly the same as a joke from Bill Hicks' stand up act from the early 90s. I wish I could repeat it verbatim. I think it was the joke that got Hicks' Letterman appearance cancelled though.

― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it became as controversial as it did because it was taken out of context. A lot of people who didn't see the show and just heard the quote probably thought it was part of a monologue.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Did anybody watch tonight?

He literally incited to riot!

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, it was on last night; I watched it tonight.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That Republican guest was actually trying to claim global warming doesn't exist. That's like saying the holocaust is a fabrication.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...

Real Time is still a great show, but I'm liking less and less of what Bill says. It feels more rote now than before, for some reason. Tucker Carlson came off better than Maher did the other night, and that's a baaaad sign.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

BTW: has anyone else noticed that Carlson has mellowed considerably now that he's not doing Crossfire? I still don't like a lot of his politics, but I'm finding myself thinking of him as an enormous prick less and less. If he loses the bowtie, I think he might have a future as a watchable talk show host.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

He's always been a ton more likable off the show, even while he was still doing it. He never went of the GOP talking points on crossfire, but it seemed like every time I saw him off CNN he was making it clear that the republicans were doing some things wrong.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Carlson still "asks" too many rhetorical questions, followed by, "I mean, come on." "Is there any kind of behavior that you can't excuse by saying, 'Oh, it's my religious belief? I mean, come on, of course not, that's ludicrous." (OK I made half of that quote up.)

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

ah the class "appeal in incredulity"

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

whatta prick.

carlson is/was better on his pbs show. i caught it once and i was kinda surprised, i did not want to kill him.

― hardball more like hardSUCK, Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

his promos for the pbs show make him seem like the worst stand-up comic on earth. "can you please find the weapons of mass destruction before you regulate the fast food i eat?" i half expect to hear a "i mean, come on, am i right, people, or am i right?" after those.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

when i saw it he was interviewing two old people, letting them talk and stuff.

― rrribbet, Thursday, 10 March 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

he's trying to be a hipper snazzier bill moyers or something. i don't really hate him, i guess. he bugs me. the shit he did on cnn was shitty. i liked an article he wrote in gq or esquire or somewhere. maybe if i don't have to look at him... see, now i think he just wants to be known more as a bill maher type of libertarian. maybe he will keep going until he finally becomes a raving marxist.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 March 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

This guy's a dick. He's always hanging around the Playboy mansion and being a dick. Wot a dick.

― Zarr, Thursday, 10 March 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

whatta prick.

― rpeat, Thursday, 10 March 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill M. is total total dud.

Classic ramosi post on bill maher:

I hope none of you saw Bill Maher on Leno last night.....what a stacked card, let me tell you....the biggest pseud on TV with the most unfunny cunt on earth.....Bill said some shit so ignorant it somehow eclipses his "overweight people are just lazy and why should I pay health taxes because they're pigs?!" P.I. show and rap music comments....he says something like "I don't watch the Winter games....they're not sports...they're GRAVITY!!! You sit on a sled.." All the while with that huge triangular nose and those smirky incredulous "I mean COME ON!" facial gestures that must mean this guy actually thinks he's being cleverfresh...... everyday I cry a 40oz of tears trying to understand how people can think this man is exceptionally intelligent or witty....my theory is that Bill is the mascot for midbrow pseuds all over the USA that aren't outright morons but have just the right amount of totally cursory knowledge about shit in general to think they can stop right the fuck there.

-- Ramosi (olafsonski...), February 22nd, 2002.

― djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think that QUITE eclipses the other, i mean come on people

― really now, Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

But he IS knee-jerk, in a direction that I suppose you could call libertarian - he's literally self-serving, down to his philosophical core: a tough stand FOR HIM would be to say, make an argument for universal health-care. Or for a congestion charge for driving a car inside city limits. Of course the response is "what, you want him to go against his beliefs?" Well yeah because I think at least half of what forms the libertarian credo are CRUDDY beliefs, at least as they shake out for most people.. the great trick of libertarianism is to never have to give anything up, to never have to sacrifice.. a tough stand against the status quo might be.. um, the above. Sorry, but libertarianism is the 13-year-old version of mainstream American political philosophy. I'm still pissed that they co-opted red meat and beer for their fucking frat boy agenda.. but put Maher in the Lord of the Flies and see how quick he starts calling for a bicameral legislature.
-- Tracer Hand (tracerhan...), August 3rd, 2004.

This comment doesn't make sense. It assumes Maher is an all out libertarian, which Maria's 3rd post made quite clear HE IS NOT. Many of his beliefs affect him -- he supports public schools; meaning he pays taxes for them and wishes more funds were allocated in the right places.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

All the while with that huge triangular nose and those smirky incredulous "I mean COME ON!" facial gestures that must mean this guy actually thinks he's being cleverfresh

And it's crescent fresh. Get it right.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

wow you sure showed us

― i guess im done here, Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I very well could've said "get it right or pay the price" and completely owned you with my early to mid 90s Viacomm television knowledge but I didn't want to hurt you.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

total classic, to clarify

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I think he's just a plain-old liberal, but people don't know what that is anymore. "he hangs around the playboy mansion..."

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

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