― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
I just saw "A Star Is Born" for the first time last night, and though Garland has never meant anything to me, I am finding myself totally captivated by the icon that she is. I can't really put my finger on it...
Kind of like how Mary J. Blige always seems to be physically under the burden of a heavy, heavy sadness -- Judy is like that, too.
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link
http://204.50.24.183/bewitched/asherinterv/judy.jpghttp://www.cinematical.com/images/2005/06/JudyGarlandPhoto.jpghttp://www.nobby.de/images/movies/star/cjudy.jpg
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, I agree about Judy trying too hard and vote for Marilyn.
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
She has her moments, The Pirate (which otherwise isn't very good) and the pre-tragic stuff in Star Is Born come to mind. There's a hilarious clip of her on an old Jack Paar show re-enacting Marlene Dietrich at a party playing a record of one of MD's live performances -- consisting entirely of applause.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
It's too bad they got rid of the Biography clock in Columbus Circle.
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
The roof of my old building used to stare straight at that Biography clock. It wouldn't even seem like...Columbus Circle, now. I mean, there isn't really much to lose about that area of town now but c'mon. :(
I used to love how it'd interrupt the weather forecast to announce who they were Biography-ing that week. "78 F WITH A CHANCE OF...HANK AZARIA AT 8PM WEDS...SHOWERS"
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
this one?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
OTMest thing ever said, by the way. Probably my new favoriute musical number of all time.
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
there's no such thing as objective beauty!
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
(and perhaps i'm being purposefully obtuse in a sense in saying that i don't know what a hwood std of beauty is, but in another sense i'm really not - there's hardly a single mold that "beautiful hollywood stars" fall into these days, and i think that's been true for quite some time)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't really find Judy Garland to be personally attractive but I don't really understand the idea that she doesn't meet the general standard, and she's certainly by no means an ugly woman, and I really don't understand perfectly intelligent, well-read, educated people arguing with me on the idea that societal/Hollywood benchmarks of "objective" attractiveness exist, whether or not the individual agrees with them.
Granted Ken L OTM re: retroactive effects of aging badly.
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
I agree with Allyzay.
― the bellefox (the pinefox), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
If Marilyn is the standard, I don't see how Judy fits it.
I mean for heaven's sake, if this standard didn't exist and wasn't pretty well accepted as a general realm of "acceptable," where on earth do you get off placing yourself in "the minority" on the subject of what is beautiful, and why would supposedly ugly people feel they fell short of--NO!--some arbitrary standard?
I admit that I'm not trying very hard, and am going on 3 hrs sleep, but I don't know what this means.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Dan Callahan marking the dual Judy retro in NY:
http://altscreen.com/07/26/2011/judy-garland-at-film-society-of-lincoln-center-paley-center-thru-aug-9-18/
― you call it trollin' i call it steamrollin' (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 July 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
I'd vote Judy against anybody but I'm watching The Misfits right now and Marilyn's performance is just so good. So good. The loss to film that her early death represents is if anything understated imo.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 20 August 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah; i think i was either expecting, or started reading her performance as, one of those lazy 'woman descends into madness on account of being a woman' '50s, '60s things (key text: the wrong man), but she really owns it, is electric & on another weird, unsteady orbit from everyone else in it. that film mainly comes back to me because the horse-product change-up metaphor seems really powerful, like 'generationally', but i could totally rescreen for marilyn. probably kinda harrowing to think about how luminous the characters she played were in earlier stuff like all about eve, & why that all changed.
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Saturday, 20 August 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
so did any Londoners see the Declining Judy musical? coming to NY.
http://www.endoftherainbowbroadway.com/
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago) link
I stayed near where they're doing that a few weeks back and was so excited by the marquee that I went inside the theatre to see if maybe they were in rehearsals. too early in the day, but they were setting up, I felt a sort of kid-hanging-around-after-the-circus thrill. I'm in town for my own rehearsals next week, may try to take in a preview
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 12 March 2012 12:00 (twelve years ago) link
We saw "Don't Bother To Knock" tonight. Would anyone like to explain that movie to me?
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:06 AM (9 years ago)
My feeling exactly. They wanted Marilyn Monroe in a movie, which required that they make a movie. After that, I'm lost.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 February 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
I did end up seeing End of the Rainbow in NY, by the way. Amazing performance by the lead, which sort of seemed the point of the whole thing - how much it takes out of a person to be Judy Garland, even just for a few hours. It did a good job of conveying how important her work was to her: not just as career, not just as self-validation, but as something with which she was deeply in love, something to which she was genuinely devoted.
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 11 February 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
she'd be 91 today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z7C_TWXdGY
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 June 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
Showed my class half of "Over the Rainbow" and all of "The Man That Got Away" this morning.
― clemenza, Monday, 10 June 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
good job. <3
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 06:14 (eleven years ago) link
on the "Man That Got Away" long take
In a way, the entire balance of the movie’s 3-hour running time is consumed by finding the words to describe what Judy Garland’s got.
http://10oclockdot.tumblr.com/post/145660558378/regimes-of-time-great-long-takes-ep-20-the-man
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 June 2016 14:07 (eight years ago) link
Hollywood knew exactly what to do with MM's talents and she had a place waiting for her in the showcase that she filled to perfection.
After JG outgrew her "oh gosh, oh gee" juvenile roles opposite Mickey Rooney, Hollywood never figured out how to use JG's talents to good purpose. It's not that she wasn't massively talented so much as she didn't fit well into any of the obvious slots and they tossed her aside.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 10 June 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link