One new school conspiracy: Family in the Gutted Shropshire Mansion
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link
David Davis Resignation
― Tom D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:13 (sixteen years ago) link
dom temp ban
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Chaki Tombot Rant
― Tom D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link
doomie's novel
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link
The Maracas Affair
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link
ghostbusters 2 existed to try and help noo yorkans be friendlier
― Ste, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:18 (sixteen years ago) link
disappearance of ILX::OZ thread
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Tesla coil used in secret invisibility experiments!
― Ste, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link
ongs hat!
― Ste, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN KEPT AT NUMBER 2 IN JUBILEE WEEK PEOPLE
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Wire denied opportunity to perform "Outdoor Miner" on TOTP by EMI record hyping scandal
― Tom D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link
and Crass kept off the number one position by every other record in it, during the Falklands 'campaign'
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link
1. Bob Krasnow adding phasing effects to "Strictly Personal" 2. Lou Reed remixing "Heard Her Call My Name" to make his guitar more prominent.
― Tom D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link
But seriously though:
http://digilander.libero.it/massimoxsempre/paul_is_dead_mag.jpg
― Tom D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Fluoridated water
― S-, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:36 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.bisleyonline.net/content/view/15/55/#boy
― Thomas, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link
S OTM OPE POE
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Board 77
― Thomas, Thursday, 28 August 2008 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link
The whole conspiracy theory game used to be a kind of fun hobby, (I used to rather enjoy keeping track of them, because I was interested in how the human mind could put together patterns) but now it's turned into some kind of mass hysteria post-9/11.
I actually don't think 9/11 is to blame; if it weren't for the internet, 9/11 truthers would be as obscure as the rest, and it'd be fun to report that there were actually people who believed this insane story about that awful day - you'd be like "oh, go on, nobody actually believes that" and then I'd produce some weird pamphlet somebody handed me at a political rally or something. The internet has kind of ruined these things by making it easier for them to acquire mass; a couple of crazy people believing something stupid can be really funny, but a group of them reinforcing one another's delusions and shouting people down is maddening.
― J0hn D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link
and then it'd be like "not only do people believe this; organized groups of people believe this" and you'd be like "well, that's fucking depressing"
― J0hn D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link
if it weren't for the internet, 9/11 truthers would be as obscure as the rest
hmm, my friend who rarely uses the net now wholly believes the 911 was an inside job because of some dreadful channel 4 docu. You could argue that the programme only existed because of the net tho ?
― Ste, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link
the truth is out there
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link
omg he should play the joker
― Ste, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
capone's hitman guy in the untouchables
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
haha YES
― Ste, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i honestly couldn't blame someone for believing elements of the 9/11 conspiracy, outside of the real hardcore frootloops. in times of yore, conspiracy theories used to be for the credulous but now they're for the cynical, at least where the US government is concerned, and who can blame people for that cynicism?
mind you, i still believe Marilyn Manson is that kid from the Wonder Years, so...
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link
i remember getting shot down big style by some hardcore metal fan for even suggesting that one
― Ste, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link
my favourite conspiracy detail is the widely disseminated assertion that all members of a particular ethnic group who worked in the World Trade Center took the 11th of September off. I can just about imagine people thinking that 11-9 was some kind of government plot, but you would have to be seriously deficient in the reasoning stakes to believe something like that.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link
lol @ pinefox bemused at anti-semitic conspiracy theories -- DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008
?? What part of what I said was inaccurate, DG? I am not at all bemused at the idea that anti-semitism exists. It does, and it has produced terrible damage and destruction in the world. I actually said that insofar as early Hollywood did contain some powerful Jewish members, this might partly be a result of anti-semitism that had in effect forced those people out to CA and that new industry.
I don't think that the much-discussed account of the Israel Lobby in the US is an anti-semitic conspiracy theory. I think it is a convincing account of how certain interests hold too much political power in the US and how this has damaged world peace and perhaps even US national interests. Again, what part of this view do you think is untrue?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
It is also true that some Jewish people have exercised significant influence on finance, and have been involved in or owned some of the richest corporations in the world, in the last century at least. I'm not sure that this should be a pejorative claim.
the perjorative claim is that jews control world banking not that there's the odd guy called solly who works for barclays
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link
What I said had nothing to with people who 'work for Barclays'. All kinds of people work for Barclays. I said it *is* true that a small number of Jewish people (ie: not the vast majority of Jewish people, many of whom have been very poor) have been involved at the top level of very high finance, at least in the past. The names of some of the world's biggest companies arguably demonstrate this. Again, to understand this, one would have to make a historical inquiry into how Jewish people have indeed, over a very long history, often been involved with finance. I suspect, again, that it must be partly a result of anti-semitism which excluded them from other areas. But this is doubtless a complex question on which should not comment too lightly without knowing and understanding more. I don't think one should make vague, incoherent sneers like the one you made above, either, about such a sensitive issue.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think one should make vague incohent attempts to find kernels of truth in rampant racist horeshit but hey ho
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Another question one could ask is: who *does* control world banking or (a slightly different issue, perhaps) the world economy?
And whoever they are (I don't really know, but I imagine they are largely male and very few of them are black or from the developing world), are we in favour of them and the way they influence the world for their own interests and in ways largely unknown to us?
And if we're not, are we guilty of producing a 'conspiracy theory'?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
These questions, by the way, have nothing to do with anti-semitism; like I say, I don't know who might be in this group, but I would imagine that a majority of them are white / caucasian and non-Jewish. Whoever they are, is not their ethnicity that is objectionable about them. Arguably, it is their actions that are objectionable.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link
where is "The gays run Hollywood"?
As for big stuff like who runs the economy, no conspiracies required. Winks, nods, campaign contributions.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I voted for the JFK one, I mean he was certainly murdered by somebody.
The 9/11 and the "faked" moon landing ones annoy me the most, govt-did-9/11 becuase it lets a bunch of people who didn't do their jobs properly off the hook, and because I want the time i spent watching those bullshit "documentaries" back, moon landing because it takes one of humanity's greatest achievements and turns it into cruft for paranoid nutjobs. Sad.
― Pashmina, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I would watch Crufts if it had a paranoid nutjob class.
― Thomas, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe JFK will win this poll.
Dr Morbius, is it true that gay people run Hollywood?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Gay Jews
― Tom D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
The Double Whammy
― Tom D., Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Gay Jews from Mars
― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
p: Given that American movies get worse every year, very likely.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm not really convinced that anyone controls the world economy, or at least no coherent clique or group exercises executive control over it.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link
They are all named in the final episode of The Prisoner. Every third letter of every word in the screenplay.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I tend to agree, Vicar, your caution sounds wise. Yet it remains true that some individuals and groups have vastly more influence over these things than others. And I imagine that these individuals and groups very often interact and co-operate. I imagine, too, now I think of it, that however badly things are going for other people, these people always come up roses and even richer than they started.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 28 August 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd go for Area 51, mainly because I want it to be true.
― jel --, Thursday, 28 August 2008 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd quite like the Aliens built the Pyramids one to be true.
― Thomas, Thursday, 28 August 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link
oh yeah, that's a close second.
So by it's abscence, the face on Mars must be true!
― jel --, Thursday, 28 August 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I think the one I'd most want to be true is "Global warming is a scam perpetrated by climate scientists". But, not for funny reasons or anything.
― Pashmina, Thursday, 28 August 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link