People that you've never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows -- US Politics September 2020

“They said that Jacob was a director and actor,” Abraham added.

no lies detected tbf

I'd like to believe that the FBI declined comment as to the veracity of this fake raid because they are in the planning stages of a very real raid.

Women in an ICE detention center are being given hysterectomies without their consent.

what the actual fuck

yeah. we could desperately use some form of accountability right now, this is fucking nuts.

Jesus Christ

feel sick to my stomach now, that is horrifying

Trump also said putting Uyghurs in concentration camps was 'exactly the right thing to do'.

what really disturbs me about that story is how many ppl other than Trump and his direct appointees and enablers would have to be involved to carry it out

Oh we’ll be hearing of the atrocities at the ice jails for a long time to come

It took a whistleblower for this to come to light = 'it didn't happen.'

Non-white refugees are involved = '...but even if it theoretically did, it hardly matters.'

'...oh, and it did in fact happen, but it was necessary and everyone with a brain agrees with that statement. Suck it, libcucks.'

I don't see how the morons on Twitter crowing, "if you are surprised by this, you clearly don't know U.S. history" are helpful at all. shut the fuck up, we should be outraged and surprised anew every. fucking. time. this happens.

I don't see how the morons on Twitter crowing, "if you are surprised by this, you clearly don't know U.S. history" are helpful at all.

Showy political cynicism is many dudes' favorite form of masturbation.

let's just make sure we don't shine a blacklight on ilx's ceiling

I cared about genocide before it was cool

Showy political cynicism is many dudes' favorite form of masturbation.

Thought this was Soto getting raw for a sec.

I'm pretty cynical about US politics, but "ho hum, I only get worked up about historically unprecedented atrocities" isn't the radical take these people think it is

idk i think it's important to be reminded of the historical continuum of these sorts of things and really don't think it takes away anyone's right to be outraged as they sit in their computer chair or w/e

xp Since no one has actually quoted these dastardly people, kind of weird to assume that's their take.

the US has an incredibly long & dark history of sterilizing women of color - NC was still sterilizing people deemed to be unfit into the 70s! 1/3 of puerto rican woman of childbearing age in the 60s had been sterilized, native american woman as young as ELEVEN were sterilized...

— molly conger (@socialistdogmom) September 14, 2020

@socialistdogmom has spoken!

ilx rando has spoken wtf is your point

Just pointing out their handle, with the implication of why would anyone listen to someone who calls themself that (all this coming from me, an ilx rando with some of the worst dns in the site's history)

fair enough

You might have wanted to click through to see the tweets before and after that one.

xp

socialist dog mom is actually rad af. good follow (or was before I quit twitter)

On closer inspection, that is quality content. However, genuine as it no doubt is, that name feels like Babylonbee-level strawpersoning.

But that's just me. Carry on.

lol fair

friend of a friend has met and vouches for socialistdogmom. one of the few reliably good Twitter accts tbh

xp Since no one has actually quoted these dastardly people, kind of weird to assume that's their take.

Citing the multiplicity of similar verified atrocities in the past might be helpful for infrming those who were unaware of them and whose first reaction might otherwise be disbelief, as in 'how could this possibly be true?' Citing one knowledge of those past atrocities in order to preen oneself on superior wokeness is not helpful at all. tbr these two kinds of citations may be difficult to tease apart.

xp - I rarely see those where the subtext isn't historical context and/or acting as a watchword for the future.

What those gosh-darn leftists said on Twitter today is easy red meat for ILX it seems but it usually seems to be a studied ignorance of their point that while "we should be outraged and surprised anew every. fucking. time. this happens" it doesn't really work out that way. The outrage and surprise tends to ebb depending on who's in power. (Which might be the real offense taken by ILXors...)

What those gosh-darn leftists said on Twitter today is easy red meat for ILX

lol

xp - I rarely see those where the subtext isn't historical context and/or acting as a watchword for the future.

No problem with that. I definitely have seen the thing I was referring to, but whatever, I feel like an asshole for steering this horrific news into a convo about twitter dynamics of all things

If Biden and Trump have a Rogan podcast debate, it's only fair if they also do a WTF

Ive never listens to Rogan’s podcast but apparently he never pushes back against anybody no matter which side of the aisle or how idiotic their rhetoric so obviously Trump would love him to moderate a debate

I've basically only listened to episodes with Brian Greene and a sleep scientist I forget the name of, but clip of him with Candace Owens talking about climate change was in my YouTube feed and I had to see if he pushed back on her bullshit. He did.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-dakota-attorney-general-jason-ravnsborg-involved-in-fatal-car-accident-thought-he-hit-deer-cops-say

I managed to put my general distaste for Rogan aside when a clip of him tepidly pushing back on that fuckwit Dave Rubin was making the rounds. watching this grifter getting ever so mildly owned by a complete dullard like Rogan was admittedly kind of satisfying.

yeah was kind of nice to see him call bullshit on Andy Ngo to his face

obviously having Ngo on at all is indefensible

the thing about Rogan is that he is just an extremely gullible man

didn't he already say he is voting for Trump?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders

Podcast host says former vice-president, 77, is too old despite having endorsed Sanders, 78, for the Democratic nomination

Geez he looks like Dana White in that pic

have stephen root do it while varying his character from moment to moment

my neighbor just put up a Trump sign and I'm irrationally angry about it. we weren't exactly best friends but he was a fun guy to drink & watch sports with, plus he was exactly the sort of person you wanted at your poker table if you know what I mean. never talked politics, seemed kinda uninformed at general, but yeah idk if I wanna see this guy any more, which is awkward because he's still texting me and wanting to hang out (strange because I've told him a number of times we're not seeing anyone right now due to the pandemic he seems to be unaware of). I know that makes me the "intolerant" one and I know 63 million people voted Trump including a lot of people I know but fuck him, what little benefit of the doubt I've given people after 2016 upon seeing how insanely uninformed people are is all gone now, the only reason you can continue to support Trump now is because you love to piss off people like me or you think America should be free of people like my kids

I know we discussed this a lot in 2016 but this is part of why I fucking hate this guy so much. I've always had conservative friends who "don't follow politics" and yeah I thought it was shitty when people continued to support GWB but at least there was some flimsy justification for it..."he was mislead", "he was dealt a bad hand", "can't fault him for wanting everyone to have a home", with Trump it's just...nothing. it's the most indefensible political movement I've ever seen in my life and everyone who supports it is garbage.

Nothing irrational about your anger tbh.

I think anyone who votes for Trump this year should be sealed in a shipping container and sunk to the ocean floor so your reaction seems mild fwiw.

My neighborhood is smothered in Trump signs.