People that you've never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows -- US Politics September 2020

This Caputo guy sounds outstanding

Aaaaand there it is.

Jacob Wohl Staged Fake FBI Raid On Business Partner, Actor Hired For Production Says

He recruited the "agents" on Craigslist.

In a regular world that isn't the one we currently live in, presumably one would get in significantly deep shit for impersonating a federal officer and faking a raid but I'm prepared for crickets.

Wohl is like Nathan Fielder's Wario

"In emails, Wohl told Abraham the role was for “a police drama” and that he’d be “acting as an FBI Special Agent.” He was instructed to ask for Jacob Klein when he arrived on scene. He said Wohl and Burkman told him when he arrived that the scenes they were filming would be “used for multiple shows, a couple unaired pilots.”

“They said that Jacob was a director and actor,” Abraham added.

The actors who participated were promised $400 in cash, Abraham said. But Abraham said that they were told after the shoot that they couldn’t be paid in cash, and were asked to email their full names and home addresses to Burkman so that he could mail them checks.

That, Abraham said, is what raised red flags in his mind. He Googled Burkman’s name, found a photo of him with “Jacob Klein,” realized the latter was actually Jacob Wohl, and began reading up on their well-documented trail of deception and self-sabotage."

it's hard to believe their plan failed, but i guess there's no such thing as perfection

Wow @ Caputo.

“shadows on the ceiling in my apartment, there alone, shadows are so long." --> Is it too early for an October thread title?

“They said that Jacob was a director and actor,” Abraham added.

no lies detected tbf

I'd like to believe that the FBI declined comment as to the veracity of this fake raid because they are in the planning stages of a very real raid.

Women in an ICE detention center are being given hysterectomies without their consent.

what the actual fuck

yeah. we could desperately use some form of accountability right now, this is fucking nuts.

Jesus Christ

feel sick to my stomach now, that is horrifying

Trump also said putting Uyghurs in concentration camps was 'exactly the right thing to do'.

what really disturbs me about that story is how many ppl other than Trump and his direct appointees and enablers would have to be involved to carry it out

Oh we’ll be hearing of the atrocities at the ice jails for a long time to come

It took a whistleblower for this to come to light = 'it didn't happen.'

Non-white refugees are involved = '...but even if it theoretically did, it hardly matters.'

'...oh, and it did in fact happen, but it was necessary and everyone with a brain agrees with that statement. Suck it, libcucks.'

I don't see how the morons on Twitter crowing, "if you are surprised by this, you clearly don't know U.S. history" are helpful at all. shut the fuck up, we should be outraged and surprised anew every. fucking. time. this happens.

I don't see how the morons on Twitter crowing, "if you are surprised by this, you clearly don't know U.S. history" are helpful at all.

Showy political cynicism is many dudes' favorite form of masturbation.

let's just make sure we don't shine a blacklight on ilx's ceiling

I cared about genocide before it was cool

Showy political cynicism is many dudes' favorite form of masturbation.

Thought this was Soto getting raw for a sec.

I'm pretty cynical about US politics, but "ho hum, I only get worked up about historically unprecedented atrocities" isn't the radical take these people think it is

idk i think it's important to be reminded of the historical continuum of these sorts of things and really don't think it takes away anyone's right to be outraged as they sit in their computer chair or w/e

xp Since no one has actually quoted these dastardly people, kind of weird to assume that's their take.

the US has an incredibly long & dark history of sterilizing women of color - NC was still sterilizing people deemed to be unfit into the 70s! 1/3 of puerto rican woman of childbearing age in the 60s had been sterilized, native american woman as young as ELEVEN were sterilized...

— molly conger (@socialistdogmom) September 14, 2020

@socialistdogmom has spoken!

ilx rando has spoken wtf is your point

Just pointing out their handle, with the implication of why would anyone listen to someone who calls themself that (all this coming from me, an ilx rando with some of the worst dns in the site's history)

fair enough

You might have wanted to click through to see the tweets before and after that one.

xp

socialist dog mom is actually rad af. good follow (or was before I quit twitter)

On closer inspection, that is quality content. However, genuine as it no doubt is, that name feels like Babylonbee-level strawpersoning.

But that's just me. Carry on.

lol fair

friend of a friend has met and vouches for socialistdogmom. one of the few reliably good Twitter accts tbh

xp Since no one has actually quoted these dastardly people, kind of weird to assume that's their take.

Citing the multiplicity of similar verified atrocities in the past might be helpful for infrming those who were unaware of them and whose first reaction might otherwise be disbelief, as in 'how could this possibly be true?' Citing one knowledge of those past atrocities in order to preen oneself on superior wokeness is not helpful at all. tbr these two kinds of citations may be difficult to tease apart.

xp - I rarely see those where the subtext isn't historical context and/or acting as a watchword for the future.

What those gosh-darn leftists said on Twitter today is easy red meat for ILX it seems but it usually seems to be a studied ignorance of their point that while "we should be outraged and surprised anew every. fucking. time. this happens" it doesn't really work out that way. The outrage and surprise tends to ebb depending on who's in power. (Which might be the real offense taken by ILXors...)

What those gosh-darn leftists said on Twitter today is easy red meat for ILX

lol

xp - I rarely see those where the subtext isn't historical context and/or acting as a watchword for the future.

No problem with that. I definitely have seen the thing I was referring to, but whatever, I feel like an asshole for steering this horrific news into a convo about twitter dynamics of all things

If Biden and Trump have a Rogan podcast debate, it's only fair if they also do a WTF

Ive never listens to Rogan’s podcast but apparently he never pushes back against anybody no matter which side of the aisle or how idiotic their rhetoric so obviously Trump would love him to moderate a debate

I've basically only listened to episodes with Brian Greene and a sleep scientist I forget the name of, but clip of him with Candace Owens talking about climate change was in my YouTube feed and I had to see if he pushed back on her bullshit. He did.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-dakota-attorney-general-jason-ravnsborg-involved-in-fatal-car-accident-thought-he-hit-deer-cops-say

I managed to put my general distaste for Rogan aside when a clip of him tepidly pushing back on that fuckwit Dave Rubin was making the rounds. watching this grifter getting ever so mildly owned by a complete dullard like Rogan was admittedly kind of satisfying.

yeah was kind of nice to see him call bullshit on Andy Ngo to his face

obviously having Ngo on at all is indefensible

the thing about Rogan is that he is just an extremely gullible man

didn't he already say he is voting for Trump?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/joe-rogan-donald-trump-joe-biden-bernie-sanders

Podcast host says former vice-president, 77, is too old despite having endorsed Sanders, 78, for the Democratic nomination