People that you've never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows -- US Politics September 2020

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He’s the guy that got shot in the ass by a disgruntled employee in a seth rich murder “investigation” beef

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:04 (five years ago)

just a head's up, that whole jack burkman/jacob wohl thing, unsurprisingly, might be another scam

Disgraced Washington, D.C., lobbyist Jack Burkman allegedly had his Arlington, Virginia, home “raided” by agents with the FBI early on Monday morning. Questions immediately arose about whether the raid was legitimate or a paid skit put together for attention.

Burkman’s associate, blundering GOP operative Jacob Wohl, claimed to the Daily Dot that the raid isn’t a set-up aimed at tricking the media, which their press conferences held at Burkman’s same Arlington home often hoped to accomplish. Wohl has routinely lied about his intentions with those pressers, and Wohl and Burkman have paid people to act and lie in front of the press before.

The Twitter account that posted the initial FBI “raid” photos and videos didn’t have any prior tweets to posting about the raid. The account was created in August.

...A representative for the FBI Washington Field Office told the Washington Post, “We cannot confirm that at this time” when asked about the raid. The FBI did not respond to the Daily Dot’s request for comment. The Post’s only source for its story on Burkman’s raid was Burkman himself.

It’s worth viewing this raid with skepticism, especially considering the Twitter account that announced it. Additionally, a shirt being worn by one of the FBI operatives appears to match up with one available on Amazon.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/jack-burkman-allegedly-raided-fbi-jacob-wohl

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:51 (five years ago)

jesus

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:54 (five years ago)

Classic

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:55 (five years ago)

umm

"You understand that they’re going to have to kill me, and unfortunately, I think that’s where this is going,” https://t.co/H3ipkij1n2

— Eric Levitz (@EricLevitz) September 14, 2020

global tetrahedron, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:55 (five years ago)

i mean, it might be real too, who knows. but "The Post’s only source for its story on Burkman’s raid was Burkman himself" seems concerning

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:56 (five years ago)

So in order to prove that they're big time and worthy of investigation, they...impersonated FBI agents? Which will pretty much guarantee a for-real FBI investigation? These two are so fucking stupid I think someone must water them every morning.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:56 (five years ago)

And yet...they just keep doing what they do, as-yet-unhindered.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:59 (five years ago)

not sure they're not actually a covert long-game Nathan Fielder project tbh

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:01 (five years ago)

"the plan: impersonate FBI agents for clout..."

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:01 (five years ago)

This Caputo guy sounds outstanding

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:02 (five years ago)

Aaaaand there it is.

Jacob Wohl Staged Fake FBI Raid On Business Partner, Actor Hired For Production Says

He recruited the "agents" on Craigslist.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:16 (five years ago)

In a regular world that isn't the one we currently live in, presumably one would get in significantly deep shit for impersonating a federal officer and faking a raid but I'm prepared for crickets.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:28 (five years ago)

Wohl is like Nathan Fielder's Wario

frogbs, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:28 (five years ago)

"In emails, Wohl told Abraham the role was for “a police drama” and that he’d be “acting as an FBI Special Agent.” He was instructed to ask for Jacob Klein when he arrived on scene. He said Wohl and Burkman told him when he arrived that the scenes they were filming would be “used for multiple shows, a couple unaired pilots.”

“They said that Jacob was a director and actor,” Abraham added.

The actors who participated were promised $400 in cash, Abraham said. But Abraham said that they were told after the shoot that they couldn’t be paid in cash, and were asked to email their full names and home addresses to Burkman so that he could mail them checks.

That, Abraham said, is what raised red flags in his mind. He Googled Burkman’s name, found a photo of him with “Jacob Klein,” realized the latter was actually Jacob Wohl, and began reading up on their well-documented trail of deception and self-sabotage."

it's hard to believe their plan failed, but i guess there's no such thing as perfection

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:28 (five years ago)

Wow @ Caputo.

“shadows on the ceiling in my apartment, there alone, shadows are so long." --> Is it too early for an October thread title?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:29 (five years ago)

“They said that Jacob was a director and actor,” Abraham added.

no lies detected tbf

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:33 (five years ago)

I'd like to believe that the FBI declined comment as to the veracity of this fake raid because they are in the planning stages of a very real raid.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:34 (five years ago)

Women in an ICE detention center are being given hysterectomies without their consent.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:48 (five years ago)

what the actual fuck

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:20 (five years ago)

yeah. we could desperately use some form of accountability right now, this is fucking nuts.

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:21 (five years ago)

Jesus Christ

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:26 (five years ago)

feel sick to my stomach now, that is horrifying

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:27 (five years ago)

Trump also said putting Uyghurs in concentration camps was 'exactly the right thing to do'.

pomenitul, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:28 (five years ago)

what really disturbs me about that story is how many ppl other than Trump and his direct appointees and enablers would have to be involved to carry it out

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:31 (five years ago)

Oh we’ll be hearing of the atrocities at the ice jails for a long time to come

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:34 (five years ago)

It took a whistleblower for this to come to light = 'it didn't happen.'

Non-white refugees are involved = '...but even if it theoretically did, it hardly matters.'

'...oh, and it did in fact happen, but it was necessary and everyone with a brain agrees with that statement. Suck it, libcucks.'

pomenitul, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:42 (five years ago)

I don't see how the morons on Twitter crowing, "if you are surprised by this, you clearly don't know U.S. history" are helpful at all. shut the fuck up, we should be outraged and surprised anew every. fucking. time. this happens.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:44 (five years ago)

I don't see how the morons on Twitter crowing, "if you are surprised by this, you clearly don't know U.S. history" are helpful at all.

Showy political cynicism is many dudes' favorite form of masturbation.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:56 (five years ago)

let's just make sure we don't shine a blacklight on ilx's ceiling

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:00 (five years ago)

I cared about genocide before it was cool

DJI, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:06 (five years ago)

Showy political cynicism is many dudes' favorite form of masturbation.

Thought this was Soto getting raw for a sec.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:08 (five years ago)

I'm pretty cynical about US politics, but "ho hum, I only get worked up about historically unprecedented atrocities" isn't the radical take these people think it is

rob, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:12 (five years ago)

idk i think it's important to be reminded of the historical continuum of these sorts of things and really don't think it takes away anyone's right to be outraged as they sit in their computer chair or w/e

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:17 (five years ago)

xp Since no one has actually quoted these dastardly people, kind of weird to assume that's their take.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:17 (five years ago)

the US has an incredibly long & dark history of sterilizing women of color - NC was still sterilizing people deemed to be unfit into the 70s! 1/3 of puerto rican woman of childbearing age in the 60s had been sterilized, native american woman as young as ELEVEN were sterilized...

— molly conger (@socialistdogmom) September 14, 2020

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:19 (five years ago)

@socialistdogmom has spoken!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:23 (five years ago)

ilx rando has spoken wtf is your point

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:24 (five years ago)

Just pointing out their handle, with the implication of why would anyone listen to someone who calls themself that (all this coming from me, an ilx rando with some of the worst dns in the site's history)

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:28 (five years ago)

fair enough

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:29 (five years ago)

You might have wanted to click through to see the tweets before and after that one.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:29 (five years ago)

xp

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:30 (five years ago)

socialist dog mom is actually rad af. good follow (or was before I quit twitter)

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:34 (five years ago)

On closer inspection, that is quality content. However, genuine as it no doubt is, that name feels like Babylonbee-level strawpersoning.

But that's just me. Carry on.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:39 (five years ago)

lol fair

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:04 (five years ago)

friend of a friend has met and vouches for socialistdogmom. one of the few reliably good Twitter accts tbh

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:15 (five years ago)

xp Since no one has actually quoted these dastardly people, kind of weird to assume that's their take.


You’re right, I was strawmanning there. But if you’ve really never seen a “and you’re surprised?” take in response to something outrageous but not unprecedented, I am jealous.

rob, Monday, 14 September 2020 21:25 (five years ago)

Citing the multiplicity of similar verified atrocities in the past might be helpful for infrming those who were unaware of them and whose first reaction might otherwise be disbelief, as in 'how could this possibly be true?' Citing one knowledge of those past atrocities in order to preen oneself on superior wokeness is not helpful at all. tbr these two kinds of citations may be difficult to tease apart.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:33 (five years ago)

xp - I rarely see those where the subtext isn't historical context and/or acting as a watchword for the future.

What those gosh-darn leftists said on Twitter today is easy red meat for ILX it seems but it usually seems to be a studied ignorance of their point that while "we should be outraged and surprised anew every. fucking. time. this happens" it doesn't really work out that way. The outrage and surprise tends to ebb depending on who's in power. (Which might be the real offense taken by ILXors...)

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:37 (five years ago)

What those gosh-darn leftists said on Twitter today is easy red meat for ILX

lol

pomenitul, Monday, 14 September 2020 21:47 (five years ago)


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