Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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"deserve" I don't even know what that means

The guy publicly advocating for increasing the budget of what is already by many orders of magnitude the largest amount spent on the biggest and most draconian military industrial complex on the face of the Earth doesn't either. He is a public mouthpiece and puppet of the interests that have gotten him into this position of power in his political career and little else at this point in his life. Being insulated from any opportunity of ever being confronted about who he is and what he "deserves" as a human being is part of the job.

If the left in the USA wants to have any effect on foreign policy, it has to develop a set of positions that preserve American national security while accomplishing left progressive goals. This means recognizing the incumbency of the military and the intelligence community and building a roster of left (ish) policy professionals who have the national security background to lead the departments of State and Defense and serve in the NSC and the ODNI.

The #1 threat to "American national security" is, and for the past ~50 years, always has been the intentional and unlawful destabilization of foreign nations and governments by those very military and intelligence apparatuses. If the Left wants to have any meaningful impact on foreign policy and global stability, it must be actively combating the endless, draconian and unilateral expansion of these institutions and their hazardous influence on our governance. Cozying up to and training people to be swallowed up into the churn of these bureaucracies in some hope of "bipartisan" reform from the inside is as hopeless and misguided as similar attempts to "reform" our corrupt police forces (who share an ideological and functional influence from if not direct link to these military and intelligence communities) from "good cops on the inside" have been.

Oh, and we've HAD progressive voices deeply embedded into these communities throughout history already; the filth they encounter in their line of work has driven many of them, from Ellsberg to McGehee to Snowden and others, to outright defection and subsequent whistleblowing of the corruption, unlawful acts, and abuses of power they've encountered first hand in those environments. We should take their advice and listen to what they've had to say about how the insides of these institutions operate, instead of smearing them as stooges, spies, or Russian assets as many self professed "progressives" have had a sad tendency to do throughout the years.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Friday, 11 September 2020 12:17 (five years ago)

I'm not even saying Biden needs to make reductions to the defense budget part of his campaign, but running on massive increases is the kind of 6th dimensional nonsense that is totally unnecessary.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 September 2020 12:29 (five years ago)

Tombot, to me your post reads very weird because it seems obvious to me that a Left critique of the military *starts* with unpacking the sacrosanct concept of "national security" which is a shibboleth for the entire package of violent imperial policy, the reification of a fictitious "nation" invented by settler colonialism, the insistence upon "borders," AND the eternal funnelling-away of the lion's share of discretionary spending from all the things the Left cares about. "national security" has to be redefined, discredited, and/or discarded, not accepted as the first move. even the Right understands this, hence the substitution of fascist "homeland" for the apparently too-vague "nation."

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 September 2020 12:34 (five years ago)

also, biden not being a left candidate anyway, Moodles otm

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 September 2020 12:34 (five years ago)

Ok scoffing at American "imperialism" while arguing that the left can only gain leverage over foreign policy not by getting elected but by joining & appeasing the military, intelligence, and diplomatic apparatus made me chuckle.

Doctor C otm. Deluded to be talking about needing to spend trillions on 'national security' when people are protesting over systemic oppression and other domestic issues on a daily basis while armed counterprotestors are showing up to try to intimidate them into silence.

rob, Friday, 11 September 2020 13:00 (five years ago)

that we are debating on ilx the wisdom—politically or practially—of an incremental change to this grotesque, immoral budget really bums me out

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:01 (five years ago)

Cosign with Hadrian, and esp. with Trevor phillips. The idea that the US must be a 'force for good' in the world is an absolute nonsensical farce for anyone who has studied the 'good' that the US MIC has wrought on the world. I mean, here we are on the anniversary of 9/11, and what do we have to show for the war on terror? Millions dead and tens of millions displaced, precipitating supposedly more of a need to beef up the MIC. It's a recursive cycle and it has to stop.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/magazine/displaced-war-on-terror.html

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:14 (five years ago)

turns out if you cut u.s. military spending in half the u.s. is still spending over $100 billion more than any other country

ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:22 (five years ago)

I think I’m starting to see why we haven’t won a war in 75 years

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:24 (five years ago)

We've been wrong since 1946. To think that Mossadegh, Arbenz, etc on and and on never EVER get discussed on cable talk shows while The Honor of America must be reaffirmed forever.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:25 (five years ago)

I take Tombot's point a little differently — that we have an entrenched reality, and proposals to change it have to take it into account, not just pretend that it can be overhauled overnight. Like, you need an eight-year plan (for a new president, say) to take that from 61 percent of the budget to 51 percent, or whatever.

Of course, that's not what Biden's offering, and it would be nice if it were. Because at least it would be a starting point.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:04 (five years ago)

thank you tipsy for getting the point

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:07 (five years ago)

not just pretend that it can be overhauled overnight

I don't think anyone itt suggested otherwise. It would be great if Biden did even this much.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:18 (five years ago)

In May, NextGen announced it planned to spend $45 million to help Biden beat Trump. […]

He came up with what NextGen now calls “the Democratic Avengers,” after the Marvel movie featuring an ensemble of superheroes. The idea is that by voting for Biden, you’re voting not just for him; you’re voting for all of the Democrats—many of them cool and hip!—that Biden will have in his orbit. Biden might borrow policies from Warren, for example, or have Sanders as an adviser. “If he is elected, it won’t just be Joe Biden,” this message reads. “Biden has pledged to build an administration filled with progressive leaders, experts, and activists from inside and outside of politics.” This idea went over really well, according to Wessel and Baumann. […]

The Democratic Avengers has since become one of the group’s most popular messages about Biden, according to its surveys, and the idea has made its way into ads. One features action-movie music, a comic-book font, and various Democrats stylized as cartoon characters. Bernie Sanders, it reads, “supports a $15 minimum wage!” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is “champion of Green New Deal!” Joe Biden, meanwhile, “is building the team that we want to run things!”

The Avengers-style ad by NextGen had 145 views on YouTube when I last played it.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 14 September 2020 06:54 (five years ago)

Up to 3,000 since The Atlantic ran this yesterday.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 14 September 2020 06:54 (five years ago)

Too bad most young people are apt bullshit-detectors.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 14 September 2020 11:37 (five years ago)

and consumers

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 September 2020 13:27 (five years ago)

As we say down here, veremos!

If you’re Hispanic and living in the U.S., chances are good that Joe Biden’s campaign knows a lot about you — including your family roots.

Ahead of Biden’s first trip to Florida as the Democratic presidential nominee — a Tuesday visit to Tampa and the heavily Puerto Rican city of Kissimmee — Democrats detailed what they said is a state-of-the-art voter database helping them reach and potentially win over Hispanic voters. They said the data helps them track voters who left hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico for Florida and message on a more meaningful level to Latinos descending from other nations.

“We now have not only a Latino strategy, we have a Cuban strategy. We have a Mexican American strategy. We have a Borinquen strategy. We have a Dominican strategy. We have a Venezuelan strategy, a Colombian strategy, an Ecuadorian strategy,” Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez told reporters Sunday on a call organized by the Biden campaign.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 September 2020 14:49 (five years ago)

Hmph. No Bolivian strategy?

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 September 2020 15:11 (five years ago)

The Ecuadorian Strategy was one of Ludlum's lesser works

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:02 (five years ago)

Some of this is political consultant razzamatazz to sell their services for top dollar. Some of it is going to be more effective than campaigns run a couple of decades ago. In a way it is a high-tech replacement for the ward heelers and precinct captains who used to run campaigns at this kind of granularity, back when parties were closer to machine poltics.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:03 (five years ago)

Just hilarious shit.

If you make under $400,000, you will not pay a penny more in taxes when I'm president.

The super-wealthy and big corporations will finally pay their fair share — and we'll invest that money in working families.

We're going to reward work — not wealth.

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 17, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 September 2020 18:33 (five years ago)

Literally Trotsky by US standards.

hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, 17 September 2020 18:35 (five years ago)

Guess that means killing the FICA cap is off the table.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 17 September 2020 18:38 (five years ago)

Pelosi's finally going to get her beloved elimination of the SALT cap, though.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 17 September 2020 18:39 (five years ago)

Good for her SODIUM

Neanderthal, Thursday, 17 September 2020 20:18 (five years ago)

Even though I am personally minorly harmed by the SALT cap, being in a high-tax blue state, there's really not that much justification for eliminating it other than a giveaway to donors tbh.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2020 20:21 (five years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/18/opinion/biden-campaign-canvassing.html

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 September 2020 12:15 (five years ago)

Seeing a lot of panic over the polling rn. I assume models have been corrected but this journo is citing lack of canvassing, so that NYT piece giving another view is good.

Ok this is pretty huge: the NYT says that if polls are as wrong as they were in 2016, Trump will win. This means we should actually assume Biden is losing, not winning. The lead is a mirage based on assuming that the exact same thing we’ve already seen can happen will not happen. pic.twitter.com/OWJ0sGxbZD

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) September 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 September 2020 10:30 (five years ago)

Nathan Robinson?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2020 10:33 (five years ago)

Agree.

State polls are a LOT better this year. They were also better (and right) in ‘18.

Also, most polls weren’t wrong in ‘16. Most had HRC winning by 1-3 points, which was true. T squeaked out EC “win” by 70K b/ween 3 states. Polls R more stable this year.

— Hippiemama (@hippiemama2002) September 18, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2020 10:34 (five years ago)

Proof will be in the outcome but yes that's as clear as it will get.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 September 2020 11:01 (five years ago)

Biden has to be strong on court packing now as a matter of politics. He may not believe in it, but he has to use fists here.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) September 19, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 September 2020 12:54 (five years ago)

ewww

Simon H., Saturday, 19 September 2020 12:57 (five years ago)

lol

superdeep borehole (harbl), Saturday, 19 September 2020 12:59 (five years ago)

Pack it with your fists, Joe!

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 19 September 2020 13:03 (five years ago)

I know there's a fresh opening on the courts but still

Simon H., Saturday, 19 September 2020 13:04 (five years ago)

Biden isn’t even bothering to campaign in swing states. This is pathetic

beamish13, Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:25 (five years ago)

Probably not interested in winning

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:27 (five years ago)

Did someone lose a sock?

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:30 (five years ago)

Campaigning is undignified. We learned that from Hamilton.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:31 (five years ago)

Magical thinking worked out so well for Hillary

beamish13, Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:38 (five years ago)

xpost he was just in Minnesota

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:39 (five years ago)

And Wisconsin iirc

rob, Saturday, 19 September 2020 14:40 (five years ago)

and Florida

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:07 (five years ago)

yeah he aaa in michigan last week

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:07 (five years ago)

*was

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:07 (five years ago)

beamish concerned that biden hasn’t yet visited the crucial swing province of saskatchewan

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:09 (five years ago)

yeah he aaa in michigan last week

― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, September 19, 2020 11:07 AM bookmarkflaglink

Oh shit he get a flat?

origami condom (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:16 (five years ago)

was a touching tribute to auto workers

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:17 (five years ago)


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