I don't mind people taking a hard stance, what I do mind is when ppl say "well this tells me a LOT about you slime" or whatever
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
And I apologize for that— I'm sorry! I was more responding to what I felt was a pile-up on me. I even flagged a post! (Not any of yours, Simon).
Thanks, Karl. Yeah, I've talked about #metoo stuff in the literary and music communities for what seems like decades, and so some of my own hard line comes from talking to people who've survived sexual assault, but also from how my own relationships with people who turned out to be perpetrators have affected me. I've had some very dear friends who've turned out to not just be the type to make jokes, but also sexually assault people...and in two recent cases, they declined to let me know that they had been excommunicated from their communities because of the serious nature of their deeds. The experience has essentially made me even more distrustful of people, but has also formed a hard stance against what I view as any making light of or apologetics for rape and rape culture. And so part of it is also saving myself the heartbreak of knowing that someone I cared about did something horrible to another person, and that I have to cut them out of my life.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
Sure, but I haven't really seen rape jokes or blatant homophobic rantings in the past ten years? Maybe in the heyday of ysi and the Noise Board, when I first joined ILX, but not since. I missed some years there, yeah, and I guess some major drama.But imo, making a rape joke like Petchesky shows that no matter his apology, there was the capacity to make such a joke in the first place. And that shows a serious lack of character and moral fiber in an adult male writing for a major website.
But imo, making a rape joke like Petchesky shows that no matter his apology, there was the capacity to make such a joke in the first place. And that shows a serious lack of character and moral fiber in an adult male writing for a major website.
I say this not to defend him, but just to correct the record: The rape joke was written in the comments of someone else's post in 2006, while Petchesky was in college and several years before he actually became a site staffer. So in that sense, it's not that different from tasteless and offensive posts some of us made on the Noise Board around the same time.
Of course, one might argue that it should've disqualified him from being hired by the site, which is a fair opinion.
― jaymc, Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
Magary in particular has repeatedly owned up to being a fratboy asshole jock and apologized for it at length
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
Many xps
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
kinda also feel like it's easier to just go "fuck these ppl" if you don't gaf about sports or sports blogs. I have no idea who these people are tbh. I will totally follow table's hardline stance here in practice, because it's really easy to cancel a person or publication you had no use for to begin with! And it's a challenge to not get defensive when it's someone/something that has value to you.
― sarahell, Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
im not paying $80 (American) for a year of what is basically one kinja site. no kinja is that good
― rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
time to get into cars and read Jalopnik or something
I think all the good Jalopnik people exited too
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
gosh darnit
― rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
kinja, oh man. even hearing that word takes me back.
― treeship., Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
i've got some real humdingers in the kinja comment queue, just waiting for mod approval
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
hot and spicy kinja commentshot and spicy kinja commentshot and spicy kinja commentsgot some real humdingersfor mod approvalhttps://twitter.com/wiki_tmnt
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
You have to pay more to be able to comment on the articles. Fuck that shit. I'd pay extra to block the comment section.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
maybe for $5 you get to write a comment, but other people ahve access to hack it apart and rewrite parts of it so you look like a total asshole, and then for $10 you get to write a comment, but you have to post a naked JPG of yourself as the avatar, for $20, you get to post whatever you want, and for $25 you can avoid seeing comments at all
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
searching ILX for "good ass kinja" posts is disappointing although it did reveal a classic some dude display name (as quoted by k3v):
― teenage good-ass kinja turtles (some dude), Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:48 PM (1 hour ago)
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
fuck barstool forever imo, whoever compared them to “gotcha!!!1” right wingers is otm. they’ve stayed onerous and don’t like being called out for it
― maura, Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link
Sara’s point is very valid, I’ve been a deadspin reader for like 16 years or something insane so I definitely have more than an average vested interest in it
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link
I read a good article on the Chrysler Prowler on one of these sites the other week
― brimstead, Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link
maybe I'm misremembering but aren't they the ones that "unearthed" Josh Hader's bad high school tweets right when we took the mound in the All Star game? that was pretty fuckin scummy imo
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
I read Deadspin for 15-16 years but the draw was really the entire Gawker ecosystem. Magary was the major selling point of Deadspin itself for the last 5-6 years but not enough of one to get me to pay.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link
https://deadspin.com/serving-up-a-three-run-homer-is-somehow-only-the-second-1827676441
I don’t think they unearthed them, they just covered their rounds moving around Twitter.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link
rounds
ive subscribed, got a year for $69. figured i've enjoyed these guys enough over the years for free that it would be worth it for at least a year
― ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link
nice
― contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
the whole 69/nice thing kind of clarifies their maturity level tbh
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
it sure felt like the right price haha
― ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
i should have put that on the posts you had a second thought about thread but there was a serious discussion happening, i'm sorry
― contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
the only "sports" journalism I care about is jon bois videos tbh
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link
still have never watched a jon bois video because the only people I ever see talking about jon bois videos are people who don’t like sports
― k3vin k., Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link
― sarahell, Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:30 PM (two hours ago)
the isn't really the issue... it's that it's hard to claim authority on this subject as table is doing if you're linking to barstool -- whose rape, abuse, racism, apologia is a million times that of deadspin. there is simply no debate on this... it is essentially the source of the beef between the two sites, hence barstool digging up a 14 year old comment in the first place. it doesn't invalidate what was written in the comment but it undercuts the authority w/ which you can make the argument.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
the correct response to reading the number "69" is to solemnly bow your head in silence. but not before you make sure that nobody else indulges in a harmless twitter meme.
― ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
I've enjoyed having the Athletic and still subscribe but tbh it's going to be dictated by the value you get for the specific team of writers who cover your hometown teams.
I just love the app though, god it's so amazing to read well laid out, easy to read articles with no ads or bullshit...best phone reading experience i have
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link
though they had cutbacks and furloughed my fav timberwolves writer
I'll be curious about Defector
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
defector and the athletic scratch totally different itches, the latter a faithful, but enlightened recreation of the local sports pages that deadspin used to rail against.
― ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
― k3vin k., Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:06 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i like sports and am telling you to watch the dorktown series about the mariners right now
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
im the president of Basketball and i like jon bois youtubes
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
jon bois is for everyone
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 September 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
if you don't like Jon Bois you don't like videos tbah
― imago, Thursday, 10 September 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
I like British sports and I'm telling you that for god's sake
― imago, Thursday, 10 September 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
the bois thing is extremely not for me, believe me i've tried
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 September 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link
I don't get youtubers in toto, I'm not a damn zoomer
― rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 September 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link
the isn't really the issue... it's that it's hard to claim authority on this subject as table is doing if you're linking to barstool -- whose rape, abuse, racism, apologia is a million times that of deadspin. there is simply no debate on this... it is essentially the source of the beef between the two sites, hence barstool digging up a 14 year old comment in the first place. it doesn't invalidate what was written in the comment but it undercuts the authority w/ which you can make the argument.― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:09 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:09 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
TBF, I have no idea what the fuck Barstool is.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 11 September 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
I'm also not claiming authority. I was merely writing, "this guy is a piece of shit." which he is.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 11 September 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
Barstool's founder Dave Portnoy recently interviewed Trump in the Oval Office
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 11 September 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link
okay, so now i know. forgive me my lack of knowledge about something which doesn't matter or have any consequence in my life, except as it relates to the former Gawker ecosystem.
like I can't name a single member of any sports team in the city in which I live, and I don't care.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 11 September 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
well you said you were "reminding" people, as if others had forgotten a piece of information and you hadn't. to me that implies a position of authority in the argument. anyway since the moral authority of sports bloggers is a subject you appear passionate about, i would suggest reading up on barstool. it might alter your desire to share links from that site.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 September 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link
the thing is you can't tell the story of deadspin w/o talking about sexism, as many articles profiling the site will prove. it's something that is worth confronting -- and the site itself has done so as others have pointed out -- but focusing on that comment more or less misses the forest for the trees on the subject
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 September 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link
barstool is garbage that advertises itself openly as garbage, which is helpful.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 11 September 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link
jordan otm
― maura, Friday, 11 September 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link