People that you've never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows -- US Politics September 2020

I just tell myself it probably slipped down while they were talking to someone and they haven’t noticed.

i mentioned this in the other thread,but I actually met a friend of a friend that legit thought under the nose was the correct way to wear.

couldn't follow that line of thought.

ppl dumm

-Dali Lama

what the fuck

Kim Jong Un is in good health. Never underestimate him!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2020

lol it's a genius rope-a-dope. Take a bad person and treat them like a good person and ta-dah! No longer bad.

i don't think this came up in the midst of yesterdays level 5 shitstorm but wow
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/nyregion/donald-trump-jean-carroll-lawsuit-rape.html

The Justice Department moved on Tuesday to replace President Trump’s private legal team with government lawyers to defend him against a defamation lawsuit by the author E. Jean Carroll, who has accused him of raping her in a Manhattan department store in the 1990s.

In a highly unusual legal move, lawyers for the Justice Department said in court papers that Mr. Trump was acting in his official capacity as president when he denied ever knowing Ms. Carroll and thus could be defended by government lawyers — in effect underwritten by taxpayer money.

Just another thing that probably would've destroyed any other presidency

already paying taxes for a bunch of civilian drone murders, might as well underwrite a rape defense case as well

more and more i just get Young Jeezy's opening lines from "Soul Survivor" stuck in my head

"tonight i can't sleep
we livin' in hell"

don't worry, relief is on the way*!

The Senate is moving to a vote Thursday on a pared-down GOP coronavirus relief bill, but Democrats intend to block the measure in a move that could punt any new economic stimulus negotiations until after the November elections.

Next steps following the vote expected around mid-day Thursday are unclear. There’s no sign that bipartisan talks that collapsed last month will be revived, and it’s looking possible that Congress will adjourn later this month without passing any new economic relief.

The bill advanced by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) contains new money for small businesses, coronavirus testing and schools, and $300 weekly enhanced unemployment benefits to replace a $600 weekly benefit that expired July 31 for some 30 million jobless workers. The measure includes roughly $650 billion in total spending, but it would repurpose roughly $350 billion in previously approved spending, bringing the tally of new funding to around $300 billion.

The measure does not include a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks for individual Americans, even though that’s something the White House supports. It also excludes any new money for cities and states, a top Democratic priority as municipal governments face the prospect of mass layoffs because of plunging tax revenue. And it contains some conservative priorities that Democrats dismiss as unacceptable “poison pills,” including liability protections for businesses and a tax credit aimed at helping students attend private schools.

After Republican senators refused to rally around a $1 trillion bill McConnell released in July, he designed the new measure to attract the support of as many of his members as possible. That includes a significant group who have been reluctant to spend any more money at all after Congress dedicated an unprecedented $3 trillion to economic relief in the Spring. At the same time, McConnell was balancing the needs of a half-dozen vulnerable GOP incumbents who are eager to vote on new aid for their constituents as they campaign for re-election.

Democrats contend that the legislation, written without any Democratic input, was designed to fail and intended only to give the GOP cover for inaction. Republicans argue Democrats are refusing to agree to any new relief because they don’t want to help President Trump or bolster the fragile economic recovery ahead of the election.

“Working families have suffered and waited and wondered whether Washington Democrats really care more about hurting President Trump than helping them through this crisis,” McConnell said on the Senate floor ahead of the vote.

*relief means pain relief. pain relief not guaranteed. other restrictions may apply.

Congress does need to take some action this month, to avert a government shutdown when agency-wide funding expires at the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30. Lawmakers are in talks on a short-term spending bill that would extend government spending at existing levels through the election, although they have not yet agreed on how long it will last.

In the absence of new bipartisan talks on a coronavirus relief bill, some senators and aides speculated this week that Congress will move quickly to pass the short-term “continuing resolution” and then adjourn so lawmakers can return home to campaign for re-election.

i don't understand this, though - shouldn't democrats refuse to fund the government unless republicans agree to the green new deal? or to make abortion permanently legal and accessible everywhere? i'm confused, i've only been following us politics for 12 years now and this seems to be what the opposition does every time

oh wait, you have to do it in a non-election year, forgot

Trump on MBS after Khashoggi's murder, according to Woodward’s book: “I saved his ass. I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop.” https://t.co/MX3mHtDlxi pic.twitter.com/LiIBUFv6kU

— Sarah McLaughlin (@sarahemclaugh) September 10, 2020

your favorite president spends eight hours a day watching fox news

"I watched Liz McDonald. She's fantastic. I watched Fox Business. I watched Lou Dobbs last night, Sean Hannity last night, Tucker last night, Laura. I watched Fox & Friends in the morning." -- Trump pic.twitter.com/ORuXQRptJf

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 10, 2020

It only took a few hours for the Biden campaign to pluck this from the President's news conference on Thursday.pic.twitter.com/fDuTx9M1C1

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) September 11, 2020

YEAH WELL WHAT’S WRONG WITH WATCHIN TEEVEE I WATCHA LOTTA TEEVEE TOO

yeah but 6% of those people didn't have comorbidities so it's more like 24.48 minutes of tv if you cross-multiply

pretty sure Fox is a co-morbidity

Is Woodward irresponsible in not coming forward with the material in his tape a lot earlier?
Was he bound up in seeking clearance for his book to be released until it was about to be. & is that an excuse?
Assume that has been asked elsewhere but does seem like something that might have made some difference if it was released at the peak of the first wave. Or would it have?

I'm of a divided mind. He's basically just confirming shit that anyone with eyes and ears and some degree of cognitive function already knew or could have guessed. And what's the cumulative result of him coming forward earlier? Hell, what's the result of him coming forward now? What incentive has anyone been given to ineffectually blow the whistle on this piece of shit? If dropping a bomb of this magnitude has no material punitive impact, maybe it will at least harm Trump in the GE. At any rate, I ain't falling for the pathetic rhetorical trap that suggests Woodward somehow had as much (or more!) responsibility to reveal this shit as the motherfucking president did.

The fault dear ilxors is not in our trump and woodward but in our nation, which is 47% astonishingly— obscenely, even—credulous, angry moron.

iow old lunch otm imo

Data from 23 and Me says that an overwhelming number of people are 47% credulous, angry moron and 1% Genghis Khan and/or Neanderthal (though not ours!).

i support some of the shit woodward is getting right now, because of course he held back on everything to increase his book sales. he says he had to wait a few months to confirm it with other sources (besides the president - like to confirm that trump wasn't lying, as usual, to woodward's face, when he said the things he said). and he just happened to wrap it all up by september/october 2020, just as the democrats had a million things on trump for impeachment, since before his inauguration, since before the 2016 election even, but somehow the moment seemed right around february of the election year.

the thing is, trump is a special case because he is always openly doing terrible things and bragging about it. if you wait just a little longer, he'll openly admit to doing something else that is unmistakably dumb or evil. and yet, no matter how long you wait and how obvious it is, ol' donny seems to squeak through with very little effect on his precious ratings or polls (they're all relatively bad, but always weird when LORD OF DARKNESS is consistently polling at 40% and well above 60% in some really ignorant parts of the U.S.)

there's also this sad speculation: even if woodward would have blown the lid off the trump/coronavirus thing in early February, what difference would it make? first, trump and fox would immediately paper over everything with confusion - no, trump never said that, ok he said it because there's audio, and yes this IS serious and it's china's fault, but you don't have to wear a mask, that's for sure, and there is no ventilator crisis, and there is no testing crisis, and all the states have everything they need, and and and and

it just doesn't fucking matter. in the end, woodward releases his book and makes more money because it's closer to the election, and his mean trump stories take about 1% off of trump in the polls during the week it's released

he says he had to wait a few months to confirm it with other sources (besides the president - like to confirm that trump wasn't lying, as usual, to woodward's face, when he said the things he said)

the crux of it, i think. when you have a president who lies so frequently and is so dumb that even when he admits really, REALLY bad and damaging and damning things about himself you have to cross-check it with multiple other sources to make sure he wasn't just lying about himself in a damaging way, well...i don't know what that is. possibly YAHTZEE!

Has he tweeted something offensive for 9/11 yet?

well they were gonna do a flyover in NYC

we must never forget the greatest people in the world whose lives were destroyed, the heroes we lost, i'm talking about roger stone and paul manafort and many, many others who had their lives ruined by the fake news and they lyin democrats

I'm sure he'll do something—iirc today is the 21st anniversary of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City

erm 19th

did u forget

^ the punchline to my favorite knock-knock joke ("9/11 who?")

I don't think it's relevant to the Woodward situation whether or not it would have changed anything. The point is that he had newsworthy, time-sensitive information that should have been communicated to the public expeditiously, and he sat on it to goose his own book sales. so fuck him.

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"scrotus"

The Rose Garden is now The Dildo Garden.

The Dongald

Mike Penice

I would say "Remove Bookmark From Thread" but lol, like I bookmarked this

Studded one on the left there is terrifying

Is Woodward irresponsible in not coming forward with the material in his tape a lot earlier?

just guessing but he probably wouldn't have gotten the next seventeen tapes if he'd released the material in his tape immediately

plus Trump said the same shit right out in public, on camera, anyway

It is important to realize that Bob Woodward is snugged like a tick into the deepest crevices of the governing establishment. He plays the game by rules that the people at the highest reaches of politics and power understand best and his professional venality is probably an asset in maintaining his access to them. He paints them more flatteringly than they deserve and in return they let him "wet his beak" by raking in book profits off of what they choose to reveal to him. He's the cowbird to their rhinoceros, at once both helpful and drawing blood from the small wounds he inflicts on their tough hides.

Ah yes, because every kid grows up knowing about US war crimes and is desperate to pull a Lynndie on some hogtied Iraqi. Gtfoh

btw FP'd tabes for racism here, even countries who have not had a stake in any war for the last 77 years can generate young people eager to commit and celebrate war crimes overseas

there's a lot of people angry that dipshit didn't mumble "under god" here but 40% of america is somehow not capable of discerning the sleepy confused racist grampa vibes? this lump would be extremely hard pressed to lead a pep rally at an arkansas middle school.

President Trump recites the Pledge of Allegiance. pic.twitter.com/UscZajM4lk

— The Hill (@thehill) September 11, 2020

he's out of breath standing there fer crissakes

holy shit i just had a gutbuster laugh at the first 25 seconds there

that was like watching a father forget the name of his own daughter (tiffany) while introducing his family one by one to an acquaintance

just faking it all the time, no you're the faker

it's okay, it was only at a small event to commemorate the anniversary of the deadliest terrorist action in human history so i'm sure no one noticed.

(i may be overlooking a few terrorist actions in that statement)