love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Johnson says he regrets that Starmer did not take back his claim about the system being on the verge of collapse. He repeats the point about it doing a “heroic” job. The medium journey is under 10 miles, he says.

Having to travel 10+ miles for your test - pure heroism.

nashwan, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:15 (four years ago) link

Tories: BREAKING THE LAW!

Guardian libs: be polite before killing me.

Losing it at these Guardian comments describing what "Starmerism" means to them. "Politeness", the end of "mad-ism", "a reminder that the age of enlightenment did actually happen"? We are so screwed. pic.twitter.com/z9NTHqVJGo

— Stephen Buranyi (@stephenburanyi) September 9, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link

looking forward to hearing the ronas and riders

― this is my clean tone (NickB),

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Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link

big lack of the famed forensics on brexit here

stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link

Note the Trumpism

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Kim Johnson (Lab) asks about housing in Liverpool. She says the government’s plans for planning reform will allow slums to return. Will he abandon them?

Boris Johnson says his government will deliver beautiful new homes.

nashwan, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:18 (four years ago) link

the "mad-ism" letter is signed "rawlsian"

mark s, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link

Great stuff.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link

so you can see one grandparent at a time in england now?

if you've got the rona and give it to granddad when you see him, what's preventing him from going home and giving it to granny?

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:01 (four years ago) link

the pub. it's on the way.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:03 (four years ago) link

St Leger meeting decision reversed. This government listens

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link

Just lucky that all of today's attendees are immune

chonky floof (groovypanda), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link

Is it just my imagination or has Michael Gove completely disappeared over the past few months? Hancock, Sunak, Raab, Patel, Williamson and Sharma have all been fairly prominent over the summer and even Johnson has pulled his finger out a little bit. Suggests that Gove knows this is a disaster that is going to end multiple political careers and wants to keep as low a profile as possible.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:17 (four years ago) link

Mark Francois also disappeared for some reason

chonky floof (groovypanda), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link

Give reportedly came up with this “break the law” wheeze and pushed for it

stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:31 (four years ago) link

the master strategist at work

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link

televised update at 4 on bbc1.

i was looking forward to The Repair Shop, but i guess that won't happen now

koogs, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:31 (four years ago) link

If we have built capacity for 200k tests and Hancock is complaining that people without symptoms are getting tests... does that mean he thinks he's built capacity for 200k active daily symptomatic tests?

Also if only 25% are ineligible why aren't we reporting 150k new daily cases? What the fuck do these 148k symptomatic people per day have that isn't covid?

オニモ (onimo), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link

he doesn't know what he's doing.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/lVoLCWe.png

not great really is it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

are we going climbing again?

calzino, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link

Not great but also a bit misleading because there were so few tests done in March/April — you only got tested if you were already in hospital, so that actual number of cases then would have been massively higher xp

stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link

Lovely that the messaging to young people is literally now ‘you will kill your grandparents if you don’t follow this arbitrary rule’

crisp, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

But like do go to work yeah and maybe nandos on your way home

crisp, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

BoJo now using over testing of non symptomatic as a positive.

I can't work out how 500k negative tests a day enables normal life. It would take 2 months to test the country in which time all the normal life people have covid.

Yet another variety of herd immunity but not really

オニモ (onimo), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link

This Salford moonshot doesn't make sense to me either. At all.

stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

You can't live your life as normal if you get a negative test, because you could still catch it the minute you walk out the testing centre.

An antibody test is perhaps one thing that could let you do that, but it looks like antibodies aren't staying around for long enough for that

stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

(as I understand it, and that's not much)

antibodies not lasting isn't really seen as a problem as your body is programmed by your first infection to reproduce them

2 or 3 reinfection stories recently maybe suggests otherwise

オニモ (onimo), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link

That's true stet but deaths look to be creeping up slightly as well - most since July.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link

.@Peston asks if Christmas is cancelled?

Boris Johnson says he is 'hopeful' that 'in many ways' we could be able to get some aspects of our lives back to normal by Christmas

He refers to 'moonshot' of daily testing, but says govt 'cannot be 100% sure' if can deliver that

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) September 9, 2020



Literally give me 1/10 of what Bobby P is paid for this shite and I’ll do a (metaphorical) reign of terror that makes Jeremy Paxman look like Holly Willoughby.

scampo italiano (gyac), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link

is there a reliable daily link for keeping up with rona new cases/deaths?

calzino, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link

antibodies not lasting isn't really seen as a problem as your body is programmed by your first infection to reproduce them


Yeah sorry I mean it's only a problem in the sense that you have a very narrow window to be able to get a test that says "yep, you definitely had Coronavirus, you're good to go licking lamposts now, bin your mask".

That's true stet but deaths look to be creeping up slightly as well - most since July.


Yeah, it's definitely definitely bad — I've heard from a friend who works in a big hospital that they're seeing more admissions than they expected, more like what they were expecting for much later this year. But the way that graph is makes it look like we're getting near where we were in March, when it's not that: we're not in hospitals-might-collapse-soon territory again. (Give these buggers time though)

is there a reliable daily link for keeping up with rona new cases/deaths?

This is the official one — and subject to all the caveats about how they goose the figs it's at least good for like-for-like comparisons etc https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

Talk of goose and figs is a bit insensitive now that Christmas is cancelled

crisp, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link

"A dose of Coronavirus you got from licking lampposts"

rejected B&S lyric

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

is there a reliable daily link for keeping up with rona new cases/deaths?

Daily is difficult but I'm using this for cases. It's not 100% up to date (I don't think anywhere public is) but it at least gives you an idea of where the hotspots are:

https://russss.github.io/covidtracker/map.html

There was one on, I think, the Time Out website that had case data down to a ridiculous level of local granularity but also seemed to be lagging behind by a week or so.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

highlight (of the 5 minutes i didn't ffwd through) was bj telling pesto to unmute

koogs, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link

How is it possible that he still hasn't worked that out?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

Some real hard cases in my office still can’t tbf

stet, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

i’ve got it set up to permamute except when i’m holding down the spacebar. works v well for me

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

It is ridiculous that people ask the current UK PM questions, in good faith, expecting reasonable answers, truth, logic or anything related.

You would not do this with Donald Trump. And most of the UK journos would chortlingly agree that you wouldn't.

So don't do it with the UK PM.

Don't bother unmuting.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

Literally give me 1/10 of what Bobby P is paid for this shite and I’ll do a (metaphorical) reign of terror that makes Jeremy Paxman look like Holly Willoughby.

― scampo italiano (gyac), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:44 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Setting up a crowdfund for this

plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link

Good things are possible

Lord Alan Sugar has said his central London property investments are "suffering" due to office workers staying home https://t.co/y2pyy3qxhu

— Evening Standard (@standardnews) September 9, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link

Labour to the core

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link

100% this is what this whole thing is about, the government don't especially care if Pret goes under or if a few Spanish baristas have to find new jobs, but if they do then rents will have to go down and the collapse of the Central London property market is going to hit a lot of anonymous Tory donors where it hurts.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link

I am going to get a several copies of the Standard everyday if commercial rents are fucked it's going to be so good.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

Operation Moonshot then.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

the SAGE guy on PM thought the best case scenario at the moment was slowing the rate of growth of the R rate, we are so getting locked down before winter

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

“The prime minister has tasked the secretary of state for health and social care with delivering a Mass Population Testing Programme, currently called Operation Moonshot, before the end of the year.

“This is described by the prime minister as our only hope for avoiding a second national lockdown before a vaccine, something the country cannot afford. He would also like this to support the opening up of the economy and allow the population to return to something closer to normality.”

The leaks confirm private sector organisations are to be encouraged to carry out testing to help their own trade and protect their workforce.

“Businesses could support our testing strategy by providing ‘testing at the door’ to enable large scale ‘high-risk’ events to take place, such as football matches, theatre productions, concerts or conferences,” the strategy says. “The costs of travel or leisure activities could include the costs of accessing tests beforehand.”

Absolute bullshit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link

Jess Phillips MP (Labour) tweeted :
Might get a t-shirt to where to work that says "Grow a Spine" on the back "There's no point being a captain on a burning wreckage" There is nothing more disappointing in Westminster than the weasley complete lack of courage.

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Jess Phillips MPDeleted about 16 hours ago after 2 minutes, tweeted using Twitter Web App

if Jess didn't delete all her best tweets she could have bin a contender.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link

operation moonbeam

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link

she can't help but to burn so brightly after being the beneficiary of a Russell Group Uni and a grammar school education. I can't help - as a thick bastard - being so jel of her oh so honeyed classicism. actually tbf most of my first draughts are that bad as well!

calzino, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link


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