Are you considering purchasing a gun?

Would the baby be charged as an adult for this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAVgqYZ1Xqk

My sister in Orange County just emailed me this:

I had to replace the filter in my air conditioning system, and its unusual size was hard to find--unless I ordered online, which I didn't want to do. Anyway, the right filter existed at Graingers off the 55 Freeway, so up I went. It was in a big building and because of Covid the doorways were taped off. At one doorway there was an "open" sign and another taped-up one said the wait to get in would be at least 45 minutes. At 3pm on a Wednesday? A guy came up and another with his girlfriend, and they started chitchatting and the subject went to guns and ammo. "No problem bringing ammo here from Idaho!" And after about 10 minutes it became clear they were here to buy ammo. I'm wondering what kind of store is this. After a while a store clerk came out and announced the wait time and I asked him if they indeed had air conditioner filters. "Oh that's next door; everybody comes here first!"

Well at the real Graingers they told me that the next door down was an ammo shop. Sure enough, it was called "Ammo Bros." They went on to say that there's usually a line all day outside, as well as a line that starts early in the morning before opening like a Black Friday sale. It seems that there are ammo shortages these days--like the new toilet paper. People are prepping for what's coming

Friend who works in a gun distributor warehouse has been working overtime for months now, even though they have no ammo the orders keep coming in for everything else.

People did it during the early Obama years as well - ammo prices doubled and never recovered. Now you've got COVID and a semi-likely Biden Presidency. Most aren't prepping for "what's coming" it's FOMO of just not being able to buy <whatever>.

They should have kept all that ammo from the last time they freaked out over nothing

Now you've got COVID

Better stock up on really tiny bullets.

Give me back

Give me back my COVID

You're going to have to pry this Covid from my cold, dead hands.

Better Covid than Red.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/how-liberal-gun-owners-see-2020-self-defense-is-self-care.html

For Yafeuh Balogun, the founder of the Huey P. Newton Gun Club, an organization that teaches firearms skills to people of color as part of a commitment to self-defense and “militant culture,” guns are an integral part of his progressive ideology. His father was a marine and Vietnam veteran who was shot in the face in combat. Nevertheless, a formative part of Balogun’s childhood involved his dad teaching him and his siblings how to use guns safely.

Owning firearms, according to Balogun, is a way to have agency over communities that have been failed and brutalized by the police state. “Guns are tools to push toward self-determination,” he says. “In a utopian sense, we would hope for a world that doesn’t need weapons. We would hope that we can have a world where people can live in unity and harmony across the color spectrum. That’s not the case.” To quote a popular post in r/liberalgunowners, “Armed minorities are harder to oppress.”

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For Randy Miyan, the executive director of Liberal Gun Owners, gun ownership feels like an essential part of the human experience. “Liberals and leftists treat the 1960s as year zero,” he told me. “We have had a specialized relationship with specialized projectile weapons for 73,000 years. They’re archaeologically normative.” The mission of Liberal Gun Owners, which is registered as a 501(c)4, is to provide a community for gun-loving lefties as well as to look for solutions for gun violence beyond gun control. The earliest iteration of the group, Miyan explains, “was a shitshow of 4chan, 8chan bullshit. Whenever you do something online and don’t put a gate around it, every regressive asswipe and jerko on the internet is going to find you.” When Miyan finally earned the role of moderator, “the new sheriff was in town,” he says. He created a set of rules and protocols to turn the group into a healthy space for gun-toting lefties.

Miyan grew up in a working-class family of Democratic voters in Pittsburgh and now lives in North Carolina, but his affinity for guns is part of his spiritual questing. From age 21 to 31, Miyan studied to become a Buddhist monk, and though he ultimately chose to follow a more conventional path of getting married and having children, his time studying under Tibetan monks taught him the importance of compassion, love, and nonviolence. “There’s a notion out there that guns couldn’t possibly be an extension of compassion, that their very existence is regressive,” he explains. “You can be involved in self-defense and firearms and have that be an extension of love for your kin.”

There’s a notion out there that guns couldn’t possibly be an extension of compassion,

Yeah I have to cop to harboring that notion

”We have had a specialized relationship with specialized projectile weapons for 73,000 years. They’re archaeologically normative.”

lobsters have claws
humans have guns
it’s proven by science
QED, baby

Randy sounds fun

btw having both a gun and a child in the same house is fucking psychotic

his affinity for guns is part of his spiritual questing.

i see

like it all comes back for me to the question, who do you intend to point your gun at and kill

otm for most people I think it's more like a kid who has a blankie that makes them feel secure

like it all comes back for me to the question, who do you intend to point your gun at and kill

My answer would be "someone trying to lynch me"

Yeah DJP that's the main answer I would think of as plausible

but like are the Socialist Rifle Association actually prepared and organized to turn guys out to defend people from the pigs? Or are they another batch of bros with a hobby?

genuinely don't know

living in a house with a gun would pretty much guarantee I'd eventually kill myself with it, is where a lot of my recurrent revulsion itt comes from

“You can be involved in self-defense and firearms and have that be an extension of love for your kin.”

i would guess that a bunch of right-wing gun nuts would agree with this exact statement.

DJP otm.

I would say “someone trying to lynch my friends and neighbors” bc I'm white.

My limited experience with SRA suggests it varies widely by region/crew. Some are definitely comprised of people with a hobby, others are deep into mutual aid projects and community defense, of which firearms knowledge/use is a facet. They are explicitly less outwardly militant than other groups like John Brown and Huey Newton Clubs or Redneck Revolt.

but like are the Socialist Rifle Association actually prepared and organized to turn guys out to defend people from the pigs?

Are you a militia?
We are not a militia. As a social welfare organization, we work to educate and advocate. While the organization and its chapters do at times sanction presence at protests, we forbid armed protests under the SRA banner, as this is not the goal of the SRA. We encourage members who wish to participate in armed demonstrations to investigate organizations that have been established for that purpose. Opposing fascism and reactionary ideologies is a multifront struggle, and we fulfill the education portion of that struggle.

(from: https://socialistra.org/about/ )

^^^was just about to c&p this myself

i'm considering purchasing a knife and learning how to use it tbh. also self-defense classes.

going to get pepper spray first tho

I would say “someone trying to lynch my friends and neighbors” bc I'm white.

To be clear, being White may not protect you depending on your interactions with normal lynching targets (see: Michael Schwerner, Andrew Goodman, a quarter of the lynchings recorded between 1882 and 1968)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csz_Ul1Y7iE

Lads, it's Tottenham.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/3249226/Feeble-Tottenham-Hotspur-continue-to-fire-blanks-in-Uefa-Cup-as-they-fall-to-Udinese-Football.html

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/amp/news/deeney-misses-penalty-spurs-fire-blanks-watford

https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/spurs/league-cup/half-time-report/half-time-report-spurs-firing-blanks-against-forest_178661.html

etc

lads

straight trigger fingers plz

no one should have a gun

But how else am I supposed to protect MY FAMILY????

and how would soldiers shoot each other?

we have drones for that now

can we use drones to shoot wild animals and eat them? because to me, that hobby is more important than all the people who have committed suicide with guns

haha, it often strikes me that one of the reasons we don't have more ilx posters is because visitors may arrive, read a series of posts like that, and assume we're all hardcore conservatives

TRUMP 2020! THE FREEDOM TO KILL

It's cute that Karl thinks there are visitors arriving, reading things, and leaving.

It will just be the same couple dozen people arguing over stupid things until we're dead.

Perhaps we can establish an ILX retirement home where we can sit in rocking chairs with laprobes and ear trumpets and rehash old disputes.

I picture all of you looking like the ranger from Yogi Bear

lots of people arrive, read and leave!

didn't we figure out once that 9 out of 10 ILX users is a lurker?

or ILX views, rather

9 out of every 10 ILX users is a lurker, but 10 out of every 10 lurkers are Chris Martin from Coldplay

Perhaps we can establish an ILX retirement home where we can sit in rocking chairs with laprobes and ear trumpets and rehash old disputes.

Constantly boring each nurse and attendant with reminders of their first mention

I've mentioned it on other threads, but we own a gun. Have belonged to various leftist gun clubs, none at the moment.

congrats

Show up after nearly a month of not posting to make a snarky one word remark, how bout fuck you

What is your gun for? Who do you intend to kill with it?