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zappa is music's glenn greenwald comments are closed

mark s, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 10:54 (five years ago)

can't disagree with that

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:25 (five years ago)

never posting in another political thread in my life

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 22:49 (five years ago)

I think I'd rather listen to glen greenwald's music!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 11:02 (five years ago)

just because this variety of music annoys you, it doesn't mean you are actively obliged to rage about how it is shit and all sounds the same, if you did this for any other genre of music you would be rightfully called out for trolling or at least subjected to weary sighing, but uk indie music for various reasons is exempt from this rule

a double standard I can understand is still a double standard. I'm not into this music but reading this thread makes me want to get very into it just to piss people off, not going to do that but I am not pleased to be tempted

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:21 (five years ago)

“rage”

brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:31 (five years ago)

*swaggers oasis-like*

brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:32 (five years ago)

landfill indie /= all "uk indie music"

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:49 (five years ago)

oh it's one of them threads where pompous middle class book club pricks chirrup amongst themselves about how important and powerful they are as they slowly die!

calzino, Friday, 28 August 2020 00:59 (five years ago)

Show trial?

Tim, Friday, 28 August 2020 11:07 (five years ago)

You're right, it would be inefficient to wait until his body's cold before taking shots at his role choices.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 29 August 2020 08:32 (five years ago)

It’s OK Andrew, for some people it’s just never not a good time to take cheap potshots at the most popular movies in the history of the world. It makes them feel smart.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 29 August 2020 10:52 (five years ago)

Gone with the Wind was racist

sarahell, Saturday, 29 August 2020 17:55 (five years ago)

When there is only one poster left, ILX will have finally attained its true form. Their name?

[redacted]

pomentiful (pomenitul), Saturday, 29 August 2020 18:52 (five years ago)

I suppose that’s one way of looking at it.

10000 lurk legend (gyac), Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:13 (five years ago)

It’s OK Andrew, for some people it’s just never not a good time to take cheap potshots at the most popular movies in the history of the world.

this is probably the first and only bad time to do so tbf

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:21 (five years ago)

The poster (redacted) doesn't actually exist outside his head; it's a straw femininst / anti-racist / ~trans activist~ / whatever who he blames for why things aren't still the way they were back when he liked it in the 70s.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 30 August 2020 07:26 (five years ago)

I think Lao Tsu concisely summarised Aimless's ponderous and verbose post 20+ centuries ago, without feeling the need to get in an unsubtle ad hominem (ad feminem) attack:

Govern a great country as you would fry small fish: (Lightly - neither gut nor scale them)

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 30 August 2020 11:33 (five years ago)

It shows.

Scampos Runamuck (WmC), Monday, 31 August 2020 15:34 (five years ago)

Fuck it. This shit isn't fun or even diverting anymore, and I've got things to do.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 00:57 (five years ago)

Mods, is it possible to autoreplace every post itt with monkeypissinginitsownmouth.gif? Not that substantive a change but could be fun.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 01:59 (five years ago)

how odd the last two posts are merely a monkey micturating in his own mouth

pass the cur's dossier (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 02:01 (five years ago)

jet.jpg

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 05:57 (five years ago)

can't take back a RIP, not unless you want him to come back as a ghost or a zombie

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:43 (five years ago)

Surely he meant Recovery Is Possible.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:45 (five years ago)

even if we're just postin' in the dark

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 23:16 (five years ago)

https://blog.iconosquare.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Instagram-Poll-Ideas.jpg

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 September 2020 08:05 (five years ago)

ewww just stop

sarahell, Saturday, 5 September 2020 19:58 (five years ago)

What the fuck

scampo italiano (gyac), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 13:00 (five years ago)

Seconded.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 13:33 (five years ago)

-_-

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:54 (five years ago)

https://64.media.tumblr.com/210ef7ecf15bb18ca18a8960f8df5495/3a1b699b137c73c9-b6/s400x600/6fb7053a710c305bb5844a26ca9c9c6707282446.gif

Specific and Limited Interests (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:30 (five years ago)

You remind me so much of myself at (what I assume to be) your age, I want to take you to Mordor and throw you in Mount Doom.

I can hear the scampi beating as one (WmC), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 21:43 (five years ago)

I, for one, never cracked any deliberately tasteless jokes in my late teens/early 20s because I thought edginess was hi-la-ri-ous and so did most of my friends at the time, some of whom possessed firsthand experience with the things we were cathartically making light of in the crassest possible way because for some people (read: not all) the occasional bout of laughter in the face of trauma is preferable to unrelenting self-seriousness. Phew, good thing I emerged a fully formed 2020 woke Twitter warrior from my mother's womb (look ma, not even a C-section!), perfectly fit to mete ovt trve borad jvstice on ILX.

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:13 (five years ago)

the occasional bout of laughter in the face of trauma is preferable to unrelenting self-seriousness.

otm -- otherwise I would be long dead.

sarahell, Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:19 (five years ago)

Yeah, this is something I've thought about a lot (if not particularly deeply) since a couple of events around 2008/2009

1. A guy in a hostel in HK trying to show me a "hilarious" video of a man destroying his genitals
2. A black woman who was teaching at the same ESL school in Lewisham as me getting me to explain "black comedy" to her class as she simply didn't understand it.

also I've just remembered

3. A video on the "failblog" website of a car plowing into a load of cyclists, and a bunch of internet people defending its use as humour. (should maybe mention here my step-grandad was a semi-pro cyclist who was killed on the roads in this way)

The thing I cottoned on to (sure this isn't a major revelation to anyone) is that there are people with gallows humour trying to laugh in the face of the horrors of the world, and there are people who get a genuine thrill from other people's suffering and discomfort, and think victims probably have it coming. It is not as easy to tell the difference between the two groups as it should be, especially at first, either in real life or online. The first group have to always do more to be careful when meeting new people who cannot be expected to know they aren't the second.

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:08 (five years ago)

a "hilarious" video of a man destroying his genitals

steve-o?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:17 (five years ago)

I firmly declined to see the video but it was described as a man cutting off his testicles with a scalpel so probably not Steve-o.

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:21 (five years ago)

what did he do with them afterwards?

sarahell, Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:26 (five years ago)

his description did not include this important detail

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:27 (five years ago)

what a ball tease

sarahell, Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:29 (five years ago)

I think we're currently at a point in history – especially in English-speaking countries – where ambiguity (whether comic or aesthetic or merely discursive) is viewed with suspicion because it's been successfully co-opted by alt-right trolls who wear it as camouflage. In response, we tend to err on the side of caution by keeping uncertainty at a minimum so as not to risk misleading the reader, perhaps because deploying language with care is needed to make up for its nihilistic destruction on the other side of the aisle. I totally get how and why we got here in the first place, but as with all blanket solutions, including the most necessary and effective ones, I can't help but wonder about the outliers. So yeah, it's not always easy to tell the difference, but that doesn't mean every instance of edginess is tantamount to dog whistling, nor is everyone who seemingly never slips up in public a woke saint.

xps no kink-shaming plz thx.

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:30 (five years ago)

pomentiful otm and also I think that Vladimir Putin is a very handsome and strong leader, wouldn't you agree?

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:36 (five years ago)

Depending on your definitions of 'handsome' and 'strong', I might agree a little.

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:38 (five years ago)

What is going on here

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:38 (five years ago)

*whistles*

It's not what you think.

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:39 (five years ago)

Lol.

I mean if yr first longer post is in response to my posts on the Gawker thread, then that's fine, but I've been this way for a long time, so the idea that I emerged into it is kind of funny. One of the reasons I originally left this board in 2011 was because everyone was so damn namby-pamby liberal and not taking hard enough stances! I've calmed down enough in the interim, I think.

Re yr post about ambiguity, I think yr right, but I am more concerned about the issue as it regards art, and writing in particular. So many students don't understand ambiguity and don't want to, and it's endlessly frustrating when teaching poetry and fiction, especially. It's almost as if ambiguity is read as elitist, and that's a real problem, as I think it is very much anti-elitist in many respects.

I still think rape jokes suck, and won't apologise for my posts on that.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:59 (five years ago)

Re yr post about ambiguity, I think yr right, but I am more concerned about the issue as it regards art, and writing in particular. So many students don't understand ambiguity and don't want to, and it's endlessly frustrating when teaching poetry and fiction, especially. It's almost as if ambiguity is read as elitist, and that's a real problem, as I think it is very much anti-elitist in many respects.

Yeah, this is an absolute nightmare to deal with as a teacher. Many students seem to think that it's impossible to write something without actively condoning it. My wife once taught a class where a student complained about how a particular novel was 'anti-feminist' because it offered a tragic portrayal of a black migrant woman trying to cross the Mediterranean. The implication was that anything short of a Wonder Woman-style narrative is problematic, which is just… fucking grim.

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:17 (five years ago)

Yes! I have had some pushback on certain stories by Black writers as re-inscribing trauma, and while I understand where students are coming from, I'm also like...these are stories written about real life! Like, without these sorts of fictionalized accounts, a huge part of a cultural heritage would slip away! It's odd, and maddening. In the situation I describe above, I've started bringing in Hartman and Sharpe on the necessity of Black people, particularly Black women, telling the stories and finding the strands of the narratives that have been lost or suppressed, and framing other stories in this way has helped.

But whew. Never thought I'd see the day where I'd get some blowback from a Black student for assigning Bambara.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:26 (five years ago)

Ehhh I’ve encountered that mentality so many times irl, including with people older than me. I am, and always have been a firm fan of the fiction =\ reality line, but other people interact with fiction differently. I have never gone a year of my life without encountering it in some way, and I actually was the student at school arguing against this view (shocking), it’s not a Kids These Days thing at all. I have often wondered, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, if it’s more pronounced a divide between people who write and those who don’t?

scampo italiano (gyac), Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:28 (five years ago)


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