brb, creating a new I Love Being Dour About Movies board
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Sunday, 23 August 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
Just saying I would totally be there for a Wonder Tot movie at this point.
― Mud... jam... failure (aldo), Sunday, 23 August 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
Wait, how are they going to explain Pine is still in it/alive/not a jillion years old.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 24 August 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link
it would certainly be unprecedented for a superhero movie audience to accept that a military bloke could get placed in stasis and revived decades later
(or that someone would time travel or come back from the dead)
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 24 August 2020 06:32 (three years ago) link
Here's me not thinking in comic book form, tch.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 24 August 2020 07:00 (three years ago) link
hey, I said "movie" right in my post
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― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 24 August 2020 08:01 (three years ago) link
So...
https://io9.gizmodo.com/wonder-woman-1984-coming-to-hbo-max-and-theaters-dece-1845710702
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
(I have to wonder if this is what's going to finally cause the HBO Max/Roku cold war to get resolved, especially since the one with Amazon was finally settled.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
I hope so!
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link
https://deadline.com/2020/11/roku-cf-steve-louden-no-update-hbo-max-streaming-deals-1234617285/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 November 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link
Dumb to day-and-date with the subscription service (except that / also dumb that thousands and thousands of creative-side jobs have been cut at dozens of AT&T-owned companies unrelated to streaming, in response to the failure of the subscription service), dumb to not make it a digital rental instead of a subscription if you're day-and-dating, dumb to make the call right when it's becoming apparent that cinemas are likely to be closed in most American states and many European countries on that date, even dumber if they don't do a cinema re-release if cinemas still exist in vaccine times.
― @oneposter (đź’ą) (sic), Thursday, 19 November 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link
Looking forward to watching it
― down like 6:30 (morrisp), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
I liked the first movie a lot — except when they traveled thousands of miles overnight in a boat, and Steve Mnuchin’s name in the credits.
― down like 6:30 (morrisp), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
as a hbomax subscriber i selfishly salute this decisionwho wins? ME :D
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 November 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link
lol
I am become @OlanRogers apparently pic.twitter.com/2wVXvrWlMt— ben mekler (@benmekler) December 6, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
https://www.cbr.com/gal-gadot-patty-jenkins-10-million-praise-hbo-max-deal/
― pedantly admonishment (aldo), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
"Wonder Woman 1984 isn’t just bad for a superhero film, it’s an outright travesty. my latest review for Vulture"
https://www.vulture.com/article/wonder-woman-1984-review-an-empty-spectacle.html
"i haven’t been this disappointed in a film in a while. Wonder Woman 1984 made me depressed about Hollywood film and it’s future. don’t audiences deserve better? superhero films and the corporations that spawn them have trained audiences to believe that plot matters above all else. dear god."
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link
So, uh, anyone wondered yet? (We're getting around to it here if not necessarily today.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 December 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
We haven't seen it yet, family not that interested. Honestly, the first one was considered something of an anomaly, wasn't it? A DC movie that wasn't grim and/or totally shitty? Hence that excerpted Vulture line seems a little disingenuous, because the vast majority of the Marvel movies *have* been really solid and entertaining, with one or two dips, basically the opposite of the DC movies. So if you begin with the apparent desire for superhero movies at all and then ask "don't audiences deserve better" the answer is "yes," and those movies exist. But if the question is more specifically "don't audiences deserve a better Wonder Woman sequel?" the answer is "no, why should they?"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 December 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
"superhero films and the corporations that spawn them have trained audiences to believe that plot matters above all else. dear god."
― huge rant (sic), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 1:15 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
nerds deserve some blame here
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
batman v superman is imo the best dc movie though so i cannot map my perspective onto the critic's
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
But Brad, rock history
Here’s is a screen shot of the new Wonder Woman movie, which is set in 1984. I hope someone got fired for this. pic.twitter.com/5lKJNg0sPh— The â’¶tomic â’şlbow (@atomic_elbow) December 25, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 December 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link
I have HBO Max so will be watchin it later
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
I hope someone got fired for this.
May the person who wrote this become a better person in the future. They have some catching up to do.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link
Did those albums come out later or something?
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
(Whoever here watches this first, pls. let me know how “kid-friendly” it is... thx)
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link
Age of Quarrel was 1986
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
Someone definitely needs to be fired from the set of this movie that wrapped long ago! (If there’s a Repo Man reference, all will be forgiven)
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
yeah, it's a shocking mistake from an industry that up until now, had never seen an anachronism
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
Not the most egregious DC punk timeline error in the film.
― Chris L, Friday, 25 December 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
Does Good Charlotte show up as the villains
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
Still watching, maybe if the climactic battle takes place in Waldorf.
― Chris L, Friday, 25 December 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
At least they didn’t depict the One Last Wish 1986 album
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
let's get outraged at a random tweeter for making a joke by pretending to be outraged
― huge rant (sic), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
batman v superman is imo the best dc movie though
here is a complete ranking of all the good DC movies:
1) Batman Returns2) Teen Titans Go! To The Movies3) The Lego Batman Movie4) Batman (1966)5) Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm (probably)
― huge rant (sic), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link
it's possible that A History Of Violence is okay too
Teen Titans Go to the Movies was amazing
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
I think we’re joining in the fun, sic
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
Suicide Squad had an hour’s worth of good bits, more than the other modern DCs or Nolan movies.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link
making a joke by pretending to be outraged
more like manufacturing an excuse to show the world how perceptive and knowledgeable they are about stuff so trivial it lives in a basement bedroom of trivia's parents' house.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link
sic you know i meant dc cinematic universe not any dc movie ever
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link
who bumped the batman returns thread today????? bitch it was me
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
I didn't, but I also don't know what is and isn't part of that
so trivial
if only the reliable Steven Mnuchin had stayed on board for this sequel to his masterwork, nobody would have been able to undermine it with trivia
― huge rant (sic), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
_making a joke by pretending to be outraged_more like manufacturing an excuse to show the world how perceptive and knowledgeable they are about stuff so trivial it lives in a basement bedroom of trivia's parents' house.
― Yes Virginia, there really is a (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link
This is worse than when Elton abandons Cher at Circus Liquor and then drives north, for some reason
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Friday, 25 December 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
lmao
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 December 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
i have to give DC/Warners credit for continuing to find new ways to fuck it up
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 December 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link
We saw it this week - the first one wasn't fantastic but with so few movies in the theaters we'll basically see anything. Started off slow but picked up about a third of the way in. The story was more imaginative and touching than I was expecting, and I liked Kristin Wiig's and Pedro Pascal's characters. Still left with the sense that it should have been shorter and funnier, and probably stronger if it had been in Marvel's hands. The few fight scenes were terrible, people jumping around for no reason and very tough to follow visually
― Vinnie, Saturday, 26 December 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link
might watch this cause bored but also cause it seems like it might be at least an iron man 2 level clusterfuck
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, 26 December 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link
just got out of Wonder Woman: 1984 and it's a triumph! I laughed, I cried - a masterpiece only slightly marred by the cinema's utterly flavourless coca cola and "salted" popcorn. Not sure if they've lost their magic touch during these trying times, but I couldn't taste a thing.— TOM (@tomwalkerisgood) December 26, 2020
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 26 December 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link
Lord's son was about to wish that they could be together and Lord cut him off, saying not to wish for things they already had. After the kid wished for his dad's greatness, Lord buggered off and didn't give two shits about his kid until WW reminded him of the power of love, at which point he renounced his wish.
Also, the initial interaction they have before Lord gets the stone does not show a father-son relationship where the father is emotionally or metaphorically absent. Things are tenuous after Lord turns himself into the stone but they don't completely fall apart until his son makes that wish.
I think the conceit is that, as the embodiment of the wishing stone, Lord gets to take what he wants if he decides to do so; otherwise, the wisher just loses something to balance the scales and Lord doesn't gain anything specifically. Even Barbara's transformation is covered by that because all Lord needs to do is say "In return for granting wish x, I want to make this woman look like an extra from the Cats movie" and poof, CGI nonsense.
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link
The global meltdown doesn't happen until after the kid wishes for Lord's greatness and Lord's connection to it is not mainstream knowledge at any point of the movie until he beams himself into every television in the world, so what basis would the mother have to invite legal repercussions upon herself by violating the custody agreement?
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link
lol i didn't realize Maxwell Lord was in this. is he a presence in the JLA movie too?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
Another thing I don't get is, does Superman not exist in 1984? Wouldn't he be flying around trying to do something about the impending nuclear apocalypse?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link
I did yell "WHERE IS SUPERMAN" several times at the television
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link
Even assuming he's a kid still hiding his powers, you'd at least expect Batman to pop up somewhere
I just looked, and the final time the kid is dropped off with his dad (who is bleeding from the ears) people are literally rioting in the streets outside the office. It's around 90 minutes in. If he was dropped off, then his mom literally had to push through looters and lunatics and burning piles of stuff to get there. And then the very next scene is Max getting into his car, and the crowds being so thick with crazies (there for him, because he and his company is totally mainstream knowledge) that he has to have the driver wish they would part out of the way to get to the White House faster.
This movie is so stupid and bad.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
I liked the final Cheetah look, but all the action/plot quibbles mentioned already, plus the escalator gag in the mall robbery and the preface of young Diana learning The Power of Truth had me grimacing. Thankfully, free with HBO/Comcast, so no buyer's remorse.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 4 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
xp to alpaca:
Thankfully, free with HBO/Comcast, so no buyer's remorse.
Julia Alexander expounded on this point recently:
Consumers are far less forgiving in a theatrical setting. On streaming services, however, that form of experimentation and possible lesser quality isn’t an automatic dealbreaker. Even if a movie is bad, the library should make up for the monthly price tag. Consistency and new titles are exciting, but the library retains subscribers.The Mandalorian on Disney+ is part of the offering, but it’s not the whole product. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is the entire product people are paying for in theaters. When Rey learns she’s Palpatine’s granddaughter in The Rise of Skywalker and people audibly groan, that’s a feeling of an $80 loss. When Luke Skywalker appears for one minute in The Mandalorian’s second season finale, it’s an eye-roll for some, but people are unlikely to stop subscribing to Disney+ — especially since The Mandalorian is almost universally praised for just about everything else. But The Rise of Skywalker and Solo may make some audiences more wary to go see the next Star Wars movie in theaters instead of waiting to watch it at home. (I use “may” because this is still Star Wars and, even though The Rise of Skywalker didn’t hit analyst expectations, it still passed $1 billion.)
The Mandalorian on Disney+ is part of the offering, but it’s not the whole product. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is the entire product people are paying for in theaters. When Rey learns she’s Palpatine’s granddaughter in The Rise of Skywalker and people audibly groan, that’s a feeling of an $80 loss. When Luke Skywalker appears for one minute in The Mandalorian’s second season finale, it’s an eye-roll for some, but people are unlikely to stop subscribing to Disney+ — especially since The Mandalorian is almost universally praised for just about everything else. But The Rise of Skywalker and Solo may make some audiences more wary to go see the next Star Wars movie in theaters instead of waiting to watch it at home. (I use “may” because this is still Star Wars and, even though The Rise of Skywalker didn’t hit analyst expectations, it still passed $1 billion.)
https://musingsonmouse.substack.com/p/star-wars-nostalgia-fatigue-and-marvels
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link
Solo is basically the only good Star Wars movie made post-1983
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link
FP
― Nhex, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link
lol well there goes a lot of diligent avoidance of Rise of the Skywalkers spoilers so I could go into the movie with a semi-open mind
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
forks did you a favor there tbh
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
Washington DC geography nitpicking: After Diana and Steve leave the White House (1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW), why do they go to the Navy Memorial (700-900 Pennsylvania Ave.) to witness the riot and for Diana to renounce her wish? If they're on their way to Diana's apartment, they've gone in the wrong direction. Pennsylvania Ave. at that time was open to traffic and was a regular destination for protesters.
(Presumably the contemporary powers that be wouldn't allow the production to film in front of the White House.)
Otherwise I'm quite amused at the production's attention to the details of a bygone DC. Pity the reconstructed Commander Salamander (across the street from the historic storefront!) couldn't have reopened for a promo popup.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
Assuming WW84 is canonically continuous with Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, how old would Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne have been in 1984?
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link
Do those movies even have years attached to them?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link
I thought Affleck was playing older than his actual age, given the artificially-greyed hair, so he would have been near the beginning of his bat career
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link
forgot which thing mentioned it but he probably wished for his parents to be alive and then lost 'em all over again
― Nhex, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
lmao I would have liked to have seen that
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
It would have been like that sequence in Teen Titans Go! To The Movies
ha, yes!
― Nhex, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
Best superhero movie, that
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link
there goes a lot of diligent avoidance of Rise of the Skywalkers spoilers
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
“people audibly groan” / “an eye-roll for some” doing a lot of work in that... amusing analysis. Guess she’s not a Star Wars fan!
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link
she's been an entertainment reporter for The Verge and Polygon for the past five years with a specialty focus on Disney; i daresay she's watched and knows more about star wars than you or i do!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link
I’ve only read the paragraphs you quoted but they don’t seem to make sense (the jibes at SW aside). Disney is investing hugely in new content for D+ specifically because “the library” alone doesn’t retain members. The library is thin... if you’ve had D+ for a year and have kids, you’ve seen it all already!
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link
you know who really has that D+? Steve Trevor, amirite
― shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link
Steve Trevor's hapless 80s avatar, you mean
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link
so like if he took over someone else's body, were they just along for the ride, with no body autonomy?
if so, I guess the only enjoyable parts were sexxin' with Wonder Woman, the rest abject terror.
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
lmao I would also watch that movie
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH oh hey sexy time AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
Seriously. Body swap victim dude probably woke up with some really impressive bruises.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
"I had this really weird dream where I was getting the shit kicked out of me by... Rumpleteaser?"
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
I didn't even make it to Trevor getting mentioned, but if she's still pining for the D after one ride on it 70 years ago...
― shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link
Hey, come on, D+.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
It's D+ now
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
I see some factions have started to insinuate people who don't like the movie are sexist.
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, January 3, 2021
saddest stans
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, January 4, 2021
nah they use his name for no obvious reason and burn him to the ground in this one
― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, January 4, 2021
won't FP bc i'm sure you meant Rogue One
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link