What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

I really hope a few people under 30 are here and reading this thread

Lol u gonna flex after last night? Ok

sorry I was out of line last night

If you could go find an interesting poster under 30 and make them join ILX, I’m pretty sure all would be forgiven

i will start a call of duty twitch stream to recruit new posters

Phil Collins

Poach posters from the US Army Twitch channel. They’re likely to have new and interesting viewpoints for ILX.

has anyone tried to actually recruit people or this just idle talk

because there are ways to do it. it can be done.

what do you have in mind, treesh

there is a way. but it isn't easy. and once it's done, you can't go back.

haven't none of y'all done a multi-level marketing scheme before

get twenty people below you and start pumpin'!

let's quit beating around the bush and get down to it

we have to a fundraising campaign to raise at least $5000 US dollars

then we have to run a google ad campaign, focused on the 20-29 sector

and in order to target that campaign, we're gonna need to figure out, as 30+ people, what kinds of products that 20-29 year olds are interested in

and waht a WAP is

we can probably figure out what the young people are interested in using only social media

I got into ilx at age 19 because I found the MIA thread fascinating. And I was impressed when I found out some of the posters were pro music journalists. (Embarrassing but true). Today seeing media people talk about stuff behind the scenes has less novelty.

In general, the art of debate on like cultural issues seems, idk, become disenchanting. Maybe just for me. But to get new posters we need better thread to get lurkers hooked.

first thread....is free.

You're going to need upvotes or likes to hook the kids, maybe a heart react.

I used to be under 30 and I used to be interesting, not sure whether at the same time

Stay under 30 as long as you can, strive to be interesting whenever

I feel like k3vin has a predefined idea of “interesting” though tbf

as we all do

probably, and as someone on the wrong side of 30 myself who mostly recycles his same stale viewpoints I’m obviously not holding myself up as some sort of example of what we’re missing. I just think sometimes about the sorts of impassioned discussions we tend to have about the future of the democratic party (actually what I thought this thread was when I made that post), something we’re obviously all very invested in, and then consider the irony given the narrow range of mostly white, middle-aged viewpoints we can offer. obviously I love this place or I wouldn’t be here

The problem is, our culture has been supplanted by politics. Art of any kind has never felt more marginal. There are no subcultures that are not political subcultures. So conversation in general now is not as interesting—everything feels stale or ominous.

I wrote a longish op-ed for a small online journal recently connected to issues in contemporary architecture and design and the kind of cultural politics therein, and, I was happy with it, this is the kind of stuff i’m into, but it felt very irrelevant. And 10 years ago if i wrote a similar piece i would have been more excited to have hammered my ideas on this issue into prose. Now it just feels like—what does this have to do with “real issues”?

I don’t know if this is just a thing with me, and my attention personally drifting toward politics (in the narrow electoral sense). It feels bigger.

And anyway this is a critics’ messageboard. So if the critic is marginalized, or the critic has just become a pundit, then this place is by definition dead.

You'll have to pry criticism and cultural criticism from my cold dead hands.

It will survive as a hobby of the educated elite but it doesn’t feel central to the culture. When I used to lurk, the posting wasn’t necessarily “better,” but the conversations seemed more vital. It felt like something was at stake.

Oh! You mean as a mass cultural experience. Well, it hasn't been the same since (a) Telecommunications Act (b) CIA stopped supporting centers of culture (magazines, museums, journals, etc).

I don’t know if this is just a thing with me, and my attention personally drifting toward politics (in the narrow electoral sense). It feels bigger.

I think about this a lot, too. Also unsure whether it's just me (perhaps a function of getting older?) or a broader cultural development wherein all politics is culture and all culture is politics.

I have noticed myself drifting more towards overtly politicized art/music this year.

When I used to lurk, the posting wasn’t necessarily “better,” but the conversations seemed more vital. It felt like something was at stake.

i think what you're talking about is real, to an extent, but i also think it's heavily affected by getting older.

we've lost a lot of good posters tbf

remember the halcyon days of reading a 4 paragraph nabisco post and thinking or posting "nabisco otm" after it

He was someone who helped me remember that real, careful, and aware listening can really matter. That your life can be deepened. That sounds cheesy but it’s true—he is that kind of writer.

I've been reading more political blogs than film/music ones for at least a dozen years, but this fact doesn't mean anything by itself.

ILM's 'decline' correlates directly to alt-weekly budget cutbacks AFAICT, all the regional editors and columnists had to get jobs outside of journalism supported by escort ads.

Art became highly politicized during the 1930s, too. I suspect the onset of "culture war" in US politics has been a significant driver of the current trend treeship is decrying.

Art has always been highly politicized.

The degree of politicization seems to wax and wane, as societies feel either more or less stable, unified and secure.

Art is inherently political, but "political art" is usually shit.

agreed and would go w “almost always”

Buncha “A Change Is Gonna Come” haters in here.

‘Current events’ art is often bad, not political art.

Good distinction.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgDs8l2XgAEYdzU.jpg

She's otm and struck the right notes.

how is she this good

sorry, off-topic

i never got into ilx politics threads, i think the time i was most invested and reading regularly was c. 2012 election when then-under-30 poster iatee and then-over-30 poster ice cr?m had a fun dialogue going on. it was the golden age of nate silver; i learned a lot and was entertained. in general though the politics threads seemed full of groany cynicical humor

in terms of academic and policy side of politics on the internet more broadly, things are pretty good rn imho. in part this is due to lots of smart academics entering discussions on twitter and becoming more engaged, but also the usual uncredentialed autodidact blogger-type people. there are also a bunch of gen-z kids who migrated to twitter from somewhere on reddit who have a kind of analytic socialist meme style that i enjoy a lot, and learn neat facts about social democracy around the world from.

i read great stuff pretty much every day. it’s more long-term policy stuff and less day-to-day rat-race strategic stuff so ymmv. despite the “culture war” being really big, it’s still possible to block most of it out. the trick is, you can’t just unfollow direct perpetuators (woke ppl and ppl who talk about how woke ppl have gone too far) u also need to unfollow the ppl who constantly post about how exasperated they are with the culture war

AOC rocks