I too used to find her delivery offputting, but the podcast is consistently great, and this latest round her best yet. I really enjoyed it, too, as a corrective to the Bogdanovich podcast, which was a good listen, but while the presenter let Bogdanovich have enough rope a couple of times to reveal his innate pomposity and how he'd profited from an era that celebrated and indulged its white male creative heroes, it was clear throughout that it would err on the side of hagiography. Longworth's series went much deeper, never risked seeming like a puff-piece, and also did a great job of rescuing Platt from Bogdanovich's shadow and celebrating her as an artist in her own right, while also acknowledging her own feet of clay and exploring her as a well-rounded person, with her own flaws and motivating damage.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
It's an accomplished work of biography, which the Bogdanovich podcast isn't.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link
innate pomposity
I believe you are talking about his ascotsity.
(I know it's a bandana, but he wears it like an ascot.)
I assume there are transcripts of the Longworth podcasts, because yeah, unfortunately her voice/presentation is not my favorite. My friend (who recommended the series to me) told me he listened to the Val Lewton one and had to grit his teeth every time she said his name. "Looden," apparently.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
I assume there are transcripts
your reasoning does not follow
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link
?
A lot of podcasters post transcripts for, at least, the hearing impaired, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
There are scripts or transcripts of every episode on Patreon. We will post the scripts for the new season once all the episodes have debuted.— Karina Longworth (@KarinaLongworth) October 15, 2019
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
for, at least, the hearing impaired, etc.
That's a completely different reason tbf
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
I didn't give a reason, tbf, nor does it matter. Don't know where she posts them, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link
You literally just posted a tweet where she says where they're posted.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
Oh, wait, I misread her tweet as meaning they were available on Patreon as they're released, but would be made available to everyone when the season was done.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link
For posterity:
I watched the first half-hour of They All Laughed the other night, and I didn't.― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:40 AM (eight years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:40 AM (eight years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― flappy bird, Thursday, 22 October 2020 06:58 (three years ago) link
<3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
Nickelodeon leaves Prime today. Really amped-up slapstick. Only 30 minutes in and it feels like I've already seen 100 pratfalls.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
Amazing extended comedy fistfight sequence with Ryan O'Neal & Burt Reynolds.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link
is it the color version? I've been trying to find a copy of the "special DVD" that supposedly came out in 2009 with both color and B&W versions
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
It's the color version. I remember seeing that DVD in stores at the time; I don't think many were pressed.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
I've only seen it in color, there's a B&W version? This film was not to my tastes in any event.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link
Bogdanovich wanted to shoot it in b&w, but the suits said no. He ended up with the rights to the film and many years later digitally removed the color with both versions (same cut) bundled with The Last Picture Show in a 2-DVD set.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I was just reading about this.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link
IMDB says the B&W version is 7 minutes longer.
I really enjoyed it. It's flawed but fun, kind of a claustrophobic caricature film. Oddly enough, it reminded me a lot of Heaven's Gate, in that the period detail is so loving and that so many scenes are filled to the brim with actors doing stuff (shades of Altman).
Prime also has The Fortune by Mike Nichols leaving today, so I think I'm gonna do a mid-'70s buddy film diasterpieces double feature.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link
Bogdanovich and Kovacs actually lit the movie thinking they would strike some B&W prints, or get to it eventually, so it's more than an afterthought effect (according to him). Had no idea that DVD was bundled with Picture Show, no wonder I've had such a hard time finding a copy. I figure if I'm gonna see it, I should just wait until I find a reasonably priced copy of that DVD. As a massive fan of They All Laughed, I'm much more eager to see this because of John Ritter.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
wish i'd realized Nickelodeon was on there sooner! i'm sure i'll roll the dice on it somewhere down the line...The Fortune is *dire* imo, with an enormous, painful gap between the talent involved and what's onscreen.
― this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 11:31 (three years ago) link
This is gonna sound all Mr. Burns "I once saw Gentlemen Jim Corbett box an eskimo; back then if a fight didn't go 15 rounds we'd demand our nickel back" but I recall seeing Nickelodeon when it came out - the gimmick was that theaters charged 5 cents for admission.
― henry s, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link
RIP. L.A. Times obituary
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:41 (two years ago) link
Polly Platt very thoroughly sidelined by both that text, and even moreso by the NYT's much longer and superficially more comprehensive obit. Kind of stunning. Gee, wonder why the first few films were such huge successes and completely-realized statements, and things seemed to go somehow awry after Paper Moon....
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
Among the many amazing things you could notice in this picture, Orson Welles is smoking a cigar in a grocery store. https://t.co/7hPew8kL3h— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 6, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 January 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link
Wild story of Bogdanovich fandom and the recovery of Squirrels To The Nuts, the original cut of PB's last narrative film, She's Funny That Way.
https://tremblesighwonder.com/2022/01/20/you-saved-one-of-my-best-pictures-my-adventures-with-peter-bogdanovichs-lost-last-picture-show/
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 January 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link
Wow. I was on the edge of my seat!
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 January 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link
Can They All Laughed currently be screened/streamed? Want to see if it still, um , holds up.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link
Such a great article, thank you!
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:23 (two years ago) link
A bit OT, but has anyone read Karina's book?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:26 (two years ago) link
Oof, just tried to JustWatch search They All Laughed, and it's not even in their database!
YouTube sez HI DERE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYsas5qdl0
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:09 (two years ago) link
^^Looks alright, audio a little tinny.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:18 (two years ago) link
Thanks!
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:06 (two years ago) link
Feel like the guy gets a somewhat deserved bum rap for being a pompous ass, but he definitely made a valuable contribution more than once.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:08 (two years ago) link
He is the voice of the DJ on the country music station in this movie!
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:09 (two years ago) link
Probably worth watching now if only for the Old Weird New York.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:11 (two years ago) link
Probably took me a few viewings back when it came out to not get creped out by Ben Gazzara flirting with Patti Hansen, to name one thing.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link
XPS Iirc, he did same thing in TLPS. Dude liked his C&W.
He really comes off well in that Squirrels To The Nuts piece.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link
I'd honestly rather watch movies about They All Laughed than the picture itself
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 January 2022 01:14 (two years ago) link
XPS, well remember that Patti Hansen eventually became Mrs. Keith Richards...
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:15 (two years ago) link
Yes, I remember it well, and in that article, I think, no some interview on rogerebert.com, PB claims that what killed her incipient acting career.Trying to figure out what school Gazzara’s kids are going to.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:17 (two years ago) link
Come to think of it now I wish he had been the DJ on the one country station we had back then, which he mentions in that same interview.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link
xpost P.S. 40, on 20th Street!
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:27 (two years ago) link
He meets them outside of Stuyvesant Town on 1st Ave... nice that the film respects the geography even though there's a cut in there and they could have used any school.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:28 (two years ago) link
And yeah, wow, that article is some kinda wild story. What an absolute dream. (I'm being vague to avoid spoilers for those who haven't read.) Agreed that Bogdanovich comes off well as an older dude writing really sincere and enthusiastic emails. A good mode for him.
I was at the Quad screening of They All Laughed that comes up partway through the story! And I remember the kid asking that question, it was cute and well-handled by Bogdanovich. It was kind of welcome because the atmosphere was a little bit charged --- Bogdanovich got really choked up talking about the film, trying to express how special the cast was to him, and how so many of them were now gone. And then somebody tried to ask him for Dorothy Stratten anecdotes or something, which was very awkward. Anyway, I remember really liking the film, more than I expected - the Hepburn/Gazzara material got to me, and I remember Ritter just floating around on roller skates like Chaplin.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:42 (two years ago) link
Thanks for that, Doctor Casino.Here’s one of my favorite stories about him and Orson Welles
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 January 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link
Somehow Targets had been completely off my radar until this year, and I was pretty amazed by it. Reading about the circumstances around it, it really makes a great case for setting arbitrary limits in the creative process - having to incorporate another movie's footage, with only a few days to film the star, works out wonderfully. It's probably the hackiest possible thing to call it prescient, but more than anything else, the shooter's last words as he's led away really stuck with me. And Karloff is so great, the movie's worth seeing just for his delivery of the "Appointment in Samarra" story.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 07:21 (two years ago) link
re: that wild narrative we were just discussing, MOMA has big news:
The series concludes with the world premiere of Squirrels to the Nuts, Bogdanovich’s long unseen original edit (he called it “the Lubitsch cut”) of the 2014 romantic comedy that was taken out of his hands, recut, substantially reshot, and retitled She’s Funny That Way for a brief release.
― The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 February 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link
(also stoked to maybe catch At Long Last Love and Saint Jack, which I couldn't get myself to when they played at MOMI soon after his passing)
― The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 February 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link