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There are Biden signs all over my Cleveland-suburb neighborhood.

― Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.)

there are biden signs in our suburban neighborhood. also somebody on our street put up a giant inflatable depiction of the president wearing only a diaper next to their biden sign. to me this is basically the beginning and the end of mainstream democratic party discourse.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:29 (five years ago)

The Trump Baby proudly floated near my brother’s home in Edinburgh

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:30 (five years ago)

there are also trump signs in our neighborhood. and this week one of our neighbors put up a triptych sign. left panel is "black lives matter", middle panel is "love is love", and right panel is a hand holding up the peace sign, except it's a red hand, and i have no idea what that's even supposed to mean.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:30 (five years ago)

the only right any of us have left is the right to call the president a big baby

god help us if anybody tries to take _that_ away from the democrats

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:31 (five years ago)

It's true; no one but the hardest of hard leftists actually believes in anything. Republicans are 100% creatures of greed, bigotry and spite, and mainstream Democrats have no beliefs at all except a vague idea that everyone should be a little bit nicer, while getting rich off capitalism of course. Only internet leftists have the virtue of genuine belief, which is why they are the best that the human race has to offer (just ask 'em). The other 99.44% of humanity are their inferiors, they just haven't acknowledged it yet, which is why the internet leftists are forced (it's a real burden) to keep screaming at them about it until enlightenment takes hold at last.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:34 (five years ago)

Mainstream Democrats also believe in OK’ing war/genocide and saying “mistakes were made”/“we had bad intel” years later

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:36 (five years ago)

unperson finally coming around

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:38 (five years ago)

imagine posting that and not having the self-knowledge to realize that you are also being a sanctimonious dick on the internet

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:39 (five years ago)

beamish13 breaking records for fastest killfiled ever

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:41 (five years ago)

Biden inspires no passion ANYWHERE.
so little that is fundamentally different about Trump and Biden

Trump now occupies the space of passionate response, both positive and negative, so completely that it would be truly remarkable if any passion regarding Biden could cut through that enough to override the primary pro-Trump or anti-Trump passions among voters. This constitutes one obvious "fundamental difference" between them. Incidentally, it also is a fundamental difference between him and HRC, who was fiercely hated and fiercely loved also.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:41 (five years ago)

Whatever happening to diplomatic relations with Cuba? Student loan forgiveness? Out of control homelessness? The DNC will just move with the status quo until the Boomers die?

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:48 (five years ago)

Billy Porter performance was great.

Yerac, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:52 (five years ago)

It's true; no one but the hardest of hard leftists actually believes in anything. Republicans are 100% creatures of greed, bigotry and spite, and mainstream Democrats have no beliefs at all except a vague idea that everyone should be a little bit nicer, while getting rich off capitalism of course. Only internet leftists have the virtue of genuine belief, which is why they are the best that the human race has to offer (just ask 'em). The other 99.44% of humanity are their inferiors, they just haven't acknowledged it yet, which is why the internet leftists are forced (it's a real burden) to keep screaming at them about it until enlightenment takes hold at last.

― but also fuck you (unperson)

i wouldn't say mainstream democrats don't believe in _anything_

for instance, a lot of them really believe that bitter sarcasm based in bad-faith readings is just how one discusses politics

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:54 (five years ago)

let's be honest here, scheduling their national political convention the same week as SGDQ is pure political amateurism on the DNC's part

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:56 (five years ago)

beamish13 breaking records for fastest killfiled ever

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto)

omg, you killfile him in three posts but you still haven't fucking killfiled me, i am very hurt :(

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:57 (five years ago)

so far i've seen zero trump signs within a mile of my house, but the 2 or 3 john james signs are probably trump sign proxies for people who believe they are maintaining some sort of plausible deniability. I feel like most of the 100+ biden ones are a proxy for a FUCK YOU TRUMP sign that midwestern politeness keeps them from displaying.

I've seen a few of these which really do capture the excitement:
https://i.imgur.com/vJJgqAg.png

joygoat, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:00 (five years ago)

to address beamish13's many questions upthread

Diplomatic relations with Cuba is controlled by Trump. Student loan forgiveness is controlled by the Congress, where the Senate Republicans under Mitch McConnell have a veto over all legislation coming out of the House. Homelessness is a very complex issue with multiple intersecting causes that requires cooperation at all levels of government to get solved, from federal down to cities and counties.

The DNC doesn't run the government, which is where all these policies are determined. I doesn't have any power to dictate policy to the democratic party. It can't even effectively control the messaging or framing on these issues, however much it wants to.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:07 (five years ago)

it does however control their convention iirc

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:09 (five years ago)

yes and no. biden has the delegate votes wrapped up and can dictate the kind of convention he wants.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:10 (five years ago)

let's be honest here, scheduling their national political convention the same week as SGDQ is pure political amateurism on the DNC's part

― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:56 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink


lol! sad to say i care a lot more about SGDQ

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:12 (five years ago)

I'm too lazy to start a new poll so please pick one:

I hate Biden
I dislike Biden
I am indifferent to Biden
I like Biden
I love Biden

Thank you.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:32 (five years ago)

I hate Biden.

The end.

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:36 (five years ago)

i hate biden

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:41 (five years ago)

Biden inspires no passion ANYWHERE. There are no lawn signs or bumper stickers for him because people are, at the absolute best, moderately satisfied with him.


Hi. I don’t know where you live but this is absolutely false in my neighbourhood.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:43 (five years ago)

Billy Porter performance was great.

I thought the bit of it I saw was kind of ridiculous but I was not at all impressed with White Twitter leftists going "who is this dude, Keith Sweat's cousin Flop Sweat, lololololol"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

love the US politics lawn sign chat.

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

First, beamish13 asserts Biden inspires no passion anywhere. Next, beamish13 asserts they hate Biden. This is self-contradictory.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:48 (five years ago)

ekspost - outfit, choreography, retro-ness A+.

Yerac, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:49 (five years ago)

liked the color palette of the flag.

Yerac, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:50 (five years ago)

Not a big fan of Billy Porter but it's more of a general dislike for his type of hyper-theatrical Thing than just him. Also, that song is irredeemable crap.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:51 (five years ago)

You may personally think that Biden is a terrible presidential candidate (I'm not exactly over the moon about him myself) but if you don't see any difference between him and Trump, I'd just like to say: I'm very sorry that you won't be able to interact with your friends face-to-face during your sophomore year of college.

Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:54 (five years ago)

xp now you've gone too far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GURviYuFFOI

rob, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:56 (five years ago)

Oh, there are obvious differences between Trump and Biden. The problem is that they’re completely unscrupulous, albeit in very different ways.

Thankfully, I finished enough schooling to place well in Canada’s Express Entry system, which enabled me to leave the States and become a former American

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:57 (five years ago)

At least it wasn’t fucking Billy EICHNER

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:58 (five years ago)

Lmao the Canadian lawn sign observer has logged on

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:59 (five years ago)

The commentary is trenchant in the great white north.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:00 (five years ago)

I still visit the States. Los Angeles, that is, so not the “real” (Rust Belt/Bible Belt/Sinkhole) America.

Bernie was your last shot

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:01 (five years ago)

You visit the states during a pandemic to count lawn signs?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:02 (five years ago)

How do you get back into Canada?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:02 (five years ago)

You can’t help but notice them. I need quantitative data

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:03 (five years ago)

how do you guys like my new sock

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:04 (five years ago)

should put all the canadians in one thread to answer questions about the US.

Yerac, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:04 (five years ago)

there's no need to visit another country to count lawn signs. you can just use google earth imagery in 3D mode

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:05 (five years ago)

My wife also seems to think that hyperbolic exaggerations make her assertions more powerful rather than moving them in the direction of absurdity.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:05 (five years ago)

i should know - i've been doing it for canada every night for 4 years. they are REALLY hard to find!!

xp

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:05 (five years ago)

I mean, most Canadians know more about your history, so...

beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:06 (five years ago)

my girlfriend counts lawn signs, you don't know her she lives in canada

contorted filbert (harbl), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:06 (five years ago)

We can name the thread Bores of Canada.

Yerac, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:07 (five years ago)

In all seriousness since we’re on the subject, I live in a bit of LA that is not mostly white Canadians and during the primary the lawn sign count was like 90% biden, 10% Williamson. At least one of my neighbors still has their Williamson sign up.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:07 (five years ago)

It is very gratifying to have so many Canadian US history knowers on here. Saves me a lot of tedious wikipedia time.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:09 (five years ago)


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