Democratic (Party) Direction

Lol I definitely did not mean to imply that an effective strategy for countering Facebook relatives was quoting Michelle Obama with attribution

The electoral college is essentially gerrymandering writ large. It gives Republicans a natural advantage, but it rests upon extremely thin margins, and falls apart in the face of enthusiasm, even negative enthusiasm.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles)

this was exactly why everybody told me hillary clinton would win

Except voters were very unenthusiastic.

But again, we are talking about very low margins that could go one way or another based on small changes to sentiment.

Best I can say is, there's no sure thing, Donald Trump still has a decent statistical chance to win, just like he did in 2016, but at the moment, things look favorable for Biden.

I saw a poll according to which 58% of Biden voters will be voting against Trump rather than for Biden. This is a good thing as far as I can tell – positive support may wane, but seething hatred for orange fuckface is eternal.

I saw a poll according to which 58% of Biden voters will be voting against Trump rather than for Biden. This is a good thing as far as I can tell – positive support may wane, but seething hatred for orange fuckface is eternal.

― pomenitul

according to the latest polling 42% of Biden voters are fucking liars

Biden inspires no passion ANYWHERE. There are no lawn signs or bumper stickers for him because people are, at the absolute best, moderately satisfied with him. This will be his undoing when he loses in November to the syphilitic nightmare that is a Donald J. Trump

A blank slate is not necessarily a bad thing if your sole aim is to defeat Trump.

Biden is at best a political Band-Aid when the wound clearly needs major suturing. He’ll get kneecapped by a Republican House and Senate as well, and eventually get replaced by Trump 2.0 before the world essentially ends in 2050

Not unlikely tbh.

A blank slate is not necessarily a bad thing if your sole aim is to defeat Trump.

― pomenitul

i don't even know what to say anymore to someone who looks at a 77 year old career politician and sees a "blank slate"

Biden is at best a political Band-Aid when the wound clearly needs major suturing.

― beamish13

looks gangrenous to me but what do i know, i'm not a doctor

couldn't believe the 'video roundtable' segment last night that looked like Joe's pilot for a talk show

i guess it was meant to show 'he listens to others'

There is so little that is fundamentally different about Trump and Biden they it horrified me and many other voters. They both get hard-ones from mass deportations, love charter schools, want to limit female reproductive options, want the healthcare industry to bankrupt people, etc.

Biden inspires no passion ANYWHERE. There are no lawn signs or bumper stickers for him because people are, at the absolute best, moderately satisfied with him.

There are Biden signs all over my Cleveland-suburb neighborhood.

i don't even know what to say anymore to someone who looks at a 77 year old career politician and sees a "blank slate"

Optics in the here and now is arguably all that matters. Not saying he is a blank slate (no one is tbf).

there are biden signs in my neighborhood too but people love being moderately satisfied with things and bragging about it

In DOONESBURY, Bill Clinton’s avatar was a waffle signify his inability to take a stand for anything. Biden is essentially the same thing (or maybe a crepe, as he’s stuffed with bullshit)

There are Biden signs all over my Cleveland-suburb neighborhood.

― Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.)

there are biden signs in our suburban neighborhood. also somebody on our street put up a giant inflatable depiction of the president wearing only a diaper next to their biden sign. to me this is basically the beginning and the end of mainstream democratic party discourse.

The Trump Baby proudly floated near my brother’s home in Edinburgh

there are also trump signs in our neighborhood. and this week one of our neighbors put up a triptych sign. left panel is "black lives matter", middle panel is "love is love", and right panel is a hand holding up the peace sign, except it's a red hand, and i have no idea what that's even supposed to mean.

the only right any of us have left is the right to call the president a big baby

god help us if anybody tries to take _that_ away from the democrats

It's true; no one but the hardest of hard leftists actually believes in anything. Republicans are 100% creatures of greed, bigotry and spite, and mainstream Democrats have no beliefs at all except a vague idea that everyone should be a little bit nicer, while getting rich off capitalism of course. Only internet leftists have the virtue of genuine belief, which is why they are the best that the human race has to offer (just ask 'em). The other 99.44% of humanity are their inferiors, they just haven't acknowledged it yet, which is why the internet leftists are forced (it's a real burden) to keep screaming at them about it until enlightenment takes hold at last.

Mainstream Democrats also believe in OK’ing war/genocide and saying “mistakes were made”/“we had bad intel” years later

unperson finally coming around

imagine posting that and not having the self-knowledge to realize that you are also being a sanctimonious dick on the internet

beamish13 breaking records for fastest killfiled ever

Biden inspires no passion ANYWHERE.
so little that is fundamentally different about Trump and Biden

Trump now occupies the space of passionate response, both positive and negative, so completely that it would be truly remarkable if any passion regarding Biden could cut through that enough to override the primary pro-Trump or anti-Trump passions among voters. This constitutes one obvious "fundamental difference" between them. Incidentally, it also is a fundamental difference between him and HRC, who was fiercely hated and fiercely loved also.

Whatever happening to diplomatic relations with Cuba? Student loan forgiveness? Out of control homelessness? The DNC will just move with the status quo until the Boomers die?

Billy Porter performance was great.

It's true; no one but the hardest of hard leftists actually believes in anything. Republicans are 100% creatures of greed, bigotry and spite, and mainstream Democrats have no beliefs at all except a vague idea that everyone should be a little bit nicer, while getting rich off capitalism of course. Only internet leftists have the virtue of genuine belief, which is why they are the best that the human race has to offer (just ask 'em). The other 99.44% of humanity are their inferiors, they just haven't acknowledged it yet, which is why the internet leftists are forced (it's a real burden) to keep screaming at them about it until enlightenment takes hold at last.

― but also fuck you (unperson)

i wouldn't say mainstream democrats don't believe in _anything_

for instance, a lot of them really believe that bitter sarcasm based in bad-faith readings is just how one discusses politics

let's be honest here, scheduling their national political convention the same week as SGDQ is pure political amateurism on the DNC's part

beamish13 breaking records for fastest killfiled ever

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto)

omg, you killfile him in three posts but you still haven't fucking killfiled me, i am very hurt :(

so far i've seen zero trump signs within a mile of my house, but the 2 or 3 john james signs are probably trump sign proxies for people who believe they are maintaining some sort of plausible deniability. I feel like most of the 100+ biden ones are a proxy for a FUCK YOU TRUMP sign that midwestern politeness keeps them from displaying.

I've seen a few of these which really do capture the excitement:
https://i.imgur.com/vJJgqAg.png

to address beamish13's many questions upthread

Diplomatic relations with Cuba is controlled by Trump. Student loan forgiveness is controlled by the Congress, where the Senate Republicans under Mitch McConnell have a veto over all legislation coming out of the House. Homelessness is a very complex issue with multiple intersecting causes that requires cooperation at all levels of government to get solved, from federal down to cities and counties.

The DNC doesn't run the government, which is where all these policies are determined. I doesn't have any power to dictate policy to the democratic party. It can't even effectively control the messaging or framing on these issues, however much it wants to.

it does however control their convention iirc

yes and no. biden has the delegate votes wrapped up and can dictate the kind of convention he wants.

let's be honest here, scheduling their national political convention the same week as SGDQ is pure political amateurism on the DNC's part

― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:56 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm too lazy to start a new poll so please pick one:

I hate Biden
I dislike Biden
I am indifferent to Biden
I like Biden
I love Biden

Thank you.

I hate Biden.

The end.

i hate biden

Biden inspires no passion ANYWHERE. There are no lawn signs or bumper stickers for him because people are, at the absolute best, moderately satisfied with him.

Billy Porter performance was great.

I thought the bit of it I saw was kind of ridiculous but I was not at all impressed with White Twitter leftists going "who is this dude, Keith Sweat's cousin Flop Sweat, lololololol"

love the US politics lawn sign chat.

First, beamish13 asserts Biden inspires no passion anywhere. Next, beamish13 asserts they hate Biden. This is self-contradictory.

ekspost - outfit, choreography, retro-ness A+.

liked the color palette of the flag.

Not a big fan of Billy Porter but it's more of a general dislike for his type of hyper-theatrical Thing than just him. Also, that song is irredeemable crap.

You may personally think that Biden is a terrible presidential candidate (I'm not exactly over the moon about him myself) but if you don't see any difference between him and Trump, I'd just like to say: I'm very sorry that you won't be able to interact with your friends face-to-face during your sophomore year of college.

xp now you've gone too far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GURviYuFFOI

Oh, there are obvious differences between Trump and Biden. The problem is that they’re completely unscrupulous, albeit in very different ways.

Thankfully, I finished enough schooling to place well in Canada’s Express Entry system, which enabled me to leave the States and become a former American