rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

not gonna lie, today has been very rough

Every time Biden is allowed to speak I go back to worrying

Mail boxes have been removed from the street in Portland, Eugene and Los Angeles today. (Presumably in other cities, too, I just haven't seen footage or reportage.)

Not sure what that achieves beyond inconveniencing people. The stuff in PA is more worrisome.

Inconvenience discourages a lot of voters.

Biden himself is way down on my list of worries, certainly behind mail-in fuckery, foreign interference, Bill Barr, and the Supreme Court

the mail shit is a legit concern, idk if enough to change results, but it's not something that should go uncommented/responded to.

think this can only backfire on Trump

vote by mail doesn't really help either party and if the mail is slow it's gonna piss off a looooot of boomers

Inconvenience discourages a lot of voters.

I get that, but is there any reason to think removing mailboxes in those cities will materially change the results or just generally suck?

I just worry that more of his voters are going to be happy to go vote in person because they think COVID is nbd.

The silver lining of the USPS shit is that it almost certainly makes fully funding USPS into a priority for the Dems. If they get the hat trick in November I expect a USPS funding package by April, if they don’t get the Senate then it could still turn into a piece of the next must-pass NDAA or whatever.

anecdotally at least, the mail shit is already backfiring on him

"is there any reason to think removing mailboxes in those cities will materially change the results"

yes!

So, to recap.

Trump gets famous for telling people they're fired.

A clear majority of people want to fire Trump.

The safest means by which they can do so requires a functioning postal service.

Trump realizes that the postal service works for him. So he fires them.

So now the people who want to fire him need people who he fired, so that they can fire him.

It's like a festival. Of fire.

I think Democrats are going to vote in person in massive numbers

Yep

the fact that they won that Supreme Court seat in WI a few months ago is a pretty strong sign that's the case

Because fuck this guy

That’s a good point, that does make me feel better.

I will drag my wretched corpse to the booth and yell Fuck Yooooooou as I cast my vote, and so will a bunch of other people. Seriously, fuck this guy

I don't want the end result of us voting him the fuck out = another 50,000 - 10,000 people dying tho

the fact that they won that Supreme Court seat in WI a few months ago is a pretty strong sign that's the case

― frogbs, Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:33 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

In fact a huge proportion of votes for that election came in by mail and data like this

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/us/politics/wisconsin-mail-voting.html

is probably a big part of what's driving GOP efforts to find ways to trash legally cast mailed-in ballots

*100,000

i'll gladly do it but i'm in relatively good health

The good news is, there was really no spike in cases here coming from the election, in which tens of thousands of people did vote in polling places. We've had BLM protests, we've had lockdown protests, we had an election, we've had counties with mask mandates, we've had counties without mask mandates, basically the only things that seem to cause real spikes are a) meatpackers forced to work under unsafe conditions because the bosses don't care; b) bars being open.

good point.

we could also try vote-by-car, where basically you show up to a drive-up voting booth, and they put up cardboard cutouts of both candidates for each category, and you run over the candidates you hate and whoever is left standing gets your vote

it's when people are indoors, near each other, for extended periods of time. dipping in and out of a store or a polling station is not as bad as hanging out in a bar for five hours or sitting two feet away from your coworkers for eight hours.

you can certainly catch it at a protest or a polling station, but it's not as high risk as being in close quarters with people indoors for a long period of time. so when people are doing the latter, that's when it spikes, seemingly

lol @ vote by car

"is there any reason to think removing mailboxes in those cities will materially change the results"

yes!

also every single day has news about another act of sabotage to the postal system, and there are 95 day to go

xxpost yeah you're both right. I get irrational when I worry about this stuff. 2016 ruined my brain.

but should still hammer the USPS sabotage as an issue, not just because of the election (but definitely including it), but also the destruction of a needed and oft-taken for granted public service.

I will risk my life going to vote. For Joe Fucking Biden. In a state I'm 90% certain he will lose.

but I made my senior citizen mom request an absentee ballot

the post office stuff is ridiculous.

even if it was a harebrained scheme that has no chance of affecting the results, the fact that he is trying to do this warrants impeachment. i was skeptical that was his game until today, when he admitted it.

if the polling stations are run correctly, it could be very safe. there is no reason for more than two people to be in the polling station at a time.

like, i know people will get lax, but in theory it could be done well

i will spray fluids on anybody wearing a MAGA hat

perhaps not mine, but...fluids

I don't see how you could doubt be skeptical this was his game, not only has he been talking about this for months it's exactly the kind of incredibly obvious corruption he would do

if the polling stations are run correctly

That's the world's largest 'if' anywhere but a filthy rich exurb.

do you think one of his advisors was like "oh noooo Donald you can't do that's it's illegal and dumb"

Not sure what that achieves beyond inconveniencing people. The stuff in PA is more worrisome.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles),

Whats happening in PA? missed this

plus he always states what his goal is 5 minutes after he does something and then 10 minutes later says he was taken out of context and then five minutes after that admits to it again

when i heard they were fucking with the post office, i thought it was just another republican thing, kneecapping it to pave the way for privatization. didn't know he's been talking about this for months.

I usually get lucky by voting early but the pre-COVID primaries this year they cut early voting locations by 50% so my expectations are not good. At least it's November so I can hazmat suit that shit if necessary.

and then 10 minutes later says he was taken out of context

even better, usually a spokescreature says he was taken out of context and the fake news media are the real racists for suggesting he said it, and then he doubles down by saying "no I really meant it, also brown people smell"

this is all thanks to Sam Beckett never leaping back home

fucking with the post office is just one of those deliciously bad stances I’m glad the Republican Party has also decided to fold into its “inclusive” tent.

I was so upset in March when Biden won. Now I will happily crawl through a 100 yard latrine filled with coronavirus to vote for Biden in person. Fuck Trump.

I haven't been inside an enclosed space other than my home since March and had no plans to do so for the foreseeable future, but if there's any legit indication that my absentee ballot might not get counted I will absolutely be voting in person.

I don't think he's fully internalized how deeply people loathe him and how desperately they want him gone.

I haven't been inside an enclosed space other than my home since March and had no plans to do so for the foreseeable future

Same.

but if there's any legit indication that my absentee ballot might not get counted I will absolutely be voting in person.

SAME.

Mom jokes are his way of showing affection (to your mom) (PBKR) at 6:26 14 Aug 20

I was so upset in March when Biden won. Now I will happily crawl through a 100 yard latrine filled with coronavirus to vote for Biden in person. Fuck Trump.

same, this Post Office shit has just infuriated me to the degree that I am more than willing to risk Covid to vote in person