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Yep. My favourite mode of socialization is having dinner parties. Part of my brain cannot shake that "people socializing with me" has to be coerced in some way, so I try and make that apparent "coercion" as pleasant for others as possible, by making people food. Even though I'm often reassured by my social circle that I'm "great at parties" and "a lot of fun", the feeling of social inadequacy persists, largely because of my struggles with mental illness and my worry that people are exhausted by these struggles-- which is, in certain cases, absolutely the case.

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:28 (five years ago)

Thank you for sharing fgti.

It's a difficult thing. People with cancer are treated just as awkwardly as people with suicidal depression, there's misunderstanding, there's awkwardness around it. Met someone today and one of the first things they said was that they were getting chemo for stage IV cancer and do you think I had anything to say to that?

People back away from me if I talk too openly about suicide. Hell, complete honesty here, I back away from other people if they talk too openly about suicide. I've lost people to suicide. I don't blame them for what they did, I'm not angry at them. I'm proud of them for lasting as long as they did with what they had to live with. Knowing them is still in inspiration to me, still drives me. And it's been four years still hurts, hurts like fucking hell that they're gone, hurts like fucking hell what happened to them. I'm really afraid to lose anybody else like that.

For that matter I'm really afraid that even talking about it too directly could hurt somebody, could hurt somebody who's in a really vulnerable and fragile place, and that's a fear I push through, there's no safety when one is in that place, everything is a risk, and I don't know how to live without taking that risk sometimes.

I'm really afraid that the people who care about me might someday lose me like that. My reference to DFW's suicide... I wasn't coming from a place of flippancy, but from a place of weary over-familiarity. I know too well the crushing tedium of experiencing chronic suicidality, the sort of agony that makes time itself seem meaningless. It was this sort of depressive tedium that DFW, at some point, stopped being able to differentiate from mere boredom, to the point where he tried to write an entire book about what he took to be "boredom".

There are ways out, even if they're invisible a lot of the time, to a lot of us, even if it's mostly just blind fumbling. There are choices. A lot of them are crappy ones and there's no recognition, you know, for all the good choices we make. All of the times, all of the days, I've had to choose to not die that day... that's not a choice people who aren't suicidal have to ever make. My friend made that choice countless times in his life, beat the illness trying to take his life over and over and over again, and then one day, he couldn't, and nobody was there to give him the help and support he needed, the help and support he deserved, so he died. I don't count that as a personal failing of his.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:42 (five years ago)

These are helpful posts to read and I think we should take it to a more appropriate thread if this discussion is to continue! Thanks for your post rushomancy <3

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:52 (five years ago)

I left a movie critic message board not too recently because a male poster made a hilarious rape joke about a real person, a female poster summoned a mod to delete the post, and the hilarious rape jokester whined and whined, calling the female poster a snitch, asking her if she was so sensitive because she got raped, and suggesting that maybe she should seek therapy instead of infringing on his free speech rights.

Eventually, all the male posters on the board took his side.

I am so happy ILX is not that place.

(Posted here, and not on "Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here", out of respect for the late Bimble.)

oder doch?, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:25 (five years ago)

Eventually, all the male posters on the board took his side.

I am so happy ILX is not that place.

(Posted here, and not on "Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here", out of respect for the late Bimble.)

― oder doch?, Monday, August 10, 2020 11:25 AM (nine minutes ago)

thank you oder doch. i understand that dynamic very well. it is always painful to see it play out.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:40 (five years ago)

What's all this about Daryl Stuermer all of a sudden?

vitreous humorist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:32 (five years ago)

wow, kinda otm

but it's like peeing in your pants when you're wearing a dark suit. you get a warm feeling all over but no one notices.

all we are is durst in the wind (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:36 (five years ago)

not much of a defense of PHil Collins there ^

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:17 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

ffs

mark s, Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:55 (five years ago)

YOU WILL FIND THAT IT IS YOU WHO ARE MISTAKEN, ABOUT A GREAT MANY THINGS.

pomenitul, Thursday, 10 September 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

haha lololol because Old

o my sides

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:38 (five years ago)

I never know when this thread is deliberately and/or mistakenly used instead of the main second thoughts thread or whether posts herein truly refer to the main second thoughts thread (I wrote ‘thoughts’ in the plural, sorry not sorry).

pomenitul, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:47 (five years ago)

four weeks pass...

Gotta say I am low-key digging the trend of people just typing in what they WOULD link to instead of linking to it

Way better than trying to link something in, failing, and then saying "fuck, that didn't work. what I meant was..."

(galaxybrain.jpg)

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 October 2020 16:47 (five years ago)

It's like the old meta-joke about people who have been prison together for a long time, and who just refer to jokes by number

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 October 2020 16:47 (five years ago)

you mean marriage?

sarahell, Friday, 9 October 2020 17:05 (five years ago)

Go fuck a diaper

calstars, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:14 (five years ago)

the issue of having sex in front of a baby actually came up at work the other day

sarahell, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:18 (five years ago)

^ was going to post anniehallmarshallmcluhan.jpg until I realised potential for misinterpretation, but I was already on this thread so I couldn't just take it to here

Covidiots from UHF (sic), Saturday, 10 October 2020 20:05 (five years ago)

Before the introduction of individual bedrooms and our contemporary ideas of private space, sex in the same room as babies and small children must have been commonplace.

I mean, I'm not recommending ito as a fun practice or a spicy kink or anything.

Simply that many of our ancestors lived in more communal spaces than we ourselves are used to. The survival of the species (and the existence of large families) suggests that an awful lot of our forebears must have made whoopee near babies and small children.

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 October 2020 20:07 (five years ago)

Surely the way to save the planet is to troll.

Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Saturday, 10 October 2020 20:26 (five years ago)

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Statistic/635000/638990-blank-355.png

Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 10 October 2020 20:35 (five years ago)

Yes, but we all know that some FPs are officially sanctioned and some are dismissed.

dear lord get a life

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 20:49 (five years ago)

You're one to talk, go and annoy some Americans, that's all about all you're good for, you tedious Canadian cunt.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 23:51 (five years ago)

Lol wtf

calstars, Sunday, 11 October 2020 00:00 (five years ago)

Now see, addressing other posters in that manner IS one of the ways people find their FP count rising.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 11 October 2020 00:03 (five years ago)

It's a fair cop, guv'nor.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 October 2020 00:22 (five years ago)

the opening post on this thread was inspired by none other than our dear departed friend, and is exactly why I’m going to miss him forever.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 22 October 2020 02:29 (five years ago)

<3

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 October 2020 02:31 (five years ago)

so glad you could notify us about your general superiority to the general US poster consensus

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 22 October 2020 04:26 (five years ago)

Just two different perspectives I held, at different times, about how Morbs' attitude related to it, and vice versa.

Un-fooled and placid (sic), Thursday, 22 October 2020 04:49 (five years ago)

one month passes...

lmao

imago, Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:58 (five years ago)

deems yknow I genuinely wonder that sometimes it’s a source of distress

is right unfortunately (silby), Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:59 (five years ago)

Oh I think we all go through it!

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 November 2020 22:02 (five years ago)

See also:

should other people have different opinions?

Where’d esby go btw?

pomenitul, Sunday, 29 November 2020 22:09 (five years ago)

is it in the brain

superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 29 November 2020 22:10 (five years ago)

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and mine is best lavished with slow, wet kisses :/

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 29 November 2020 22:12 (five years ago)

D:

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 November 2020 01:29 (five years ago)

Jfc

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 01:54 (five years ago)

whenever UK ilxors post about US politics, I often agree, but mostly I think about making a grilled cheese sandwich though I never do make that sandwich, I just think about the ideal grilled cheese sandwich

sarahell, Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:44 (five years ago)

Real testament to the charter school movement’s success aren’t you

is right unfortunately (silby), Thursday, 17 December 2020 23:16 (five years ago)

I read through the Morbs RIP thread again the other week when someone mentioned him, and am not 100% sure that saying "I thought the same thing as everyone else" was the best way to signal my superiority to everyone else tbh

huge rant (sic), Friday, 18 December 2020 00:12 (five years ago)

one month passes...

the real hasn't been in circulation for 150 years

rob, Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:02 (five years ago)

Es verdad.

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:05 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

I had one that wouldve made an "ilx posts taken outtve context" entry that wouldve earned min. 20 fps within ten mins and in a highly uncharacteristic moment of sense ive gone naaah

e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Friday, 26 February 2021 20:40 (five years ago)

in re things nakh likes?

sarahell, Friday, 26 February 2021 20:42 (five years ago)

racist balkans in football was a fave topic of our former m8

sarahell, Friday, 26 February 2021 20:43 (five years ago)

Look genuinely im leaving it there, we've had a hectic week

e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Friday, 26 February 2021 20:43 (five years ago)

i like onions

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 February 2021 20:45 (five years ago)

we will always have gaz coombes

sarahell, Friday, 26 February 2021 20:46 (five years ago)


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