The Jordan Peterson Thread

I am not saying “you” as in “you, Treeship” but I would like to delve into this egocentricism

He probably likes the idea of Andreyev as a young, white intellectual male artist working within an aesthetic tradition known for its reactionary credentials (except the contemporary classical scene has tended towards the exact opposite of that in recent decades, but I doubt JP knows or cares).

― pomenitul

no idea, that would require me to engage with whatever the fuck his worldview is to a far greater extent than i would willingly do

No idea either tbh, I'm just speculating based on what little I ultimately know of JP.

I’d also posit that having dietary issues is most commonly addressed by trying an elimination diet in these times, but just eating meat and noticing that seems to work, and also happens to code as aggressively masculine or primal, is something a person would cynically do if they thought it jibed with their public image and incidentally make their stomach work better!

There’s no need to diagnose the guy with a psychological condition because he decided eating all meat is cool.

i think the thing where he said a glass of apple cider caused him to not sleep for a month because he was overcome by a sense of impending doom suggested a disordered relationship with food. i'm sorry.

did it really, though? that’s what he said, but he’s a very self-mythologizing person

i think the fact that he believes it did, and would make up that myth, is unusual.

do you think people who give self-help advice do not exaggerate or create things out of thin air to enhance their weird credibility?

I mean, an elimination diet practitioner would probably say.. maybe just don’t drink apple cider vinegar

i think i am looking at the nature of the self help advice -- eliminate chaos! -- and drawing a connection to the austerities he imposes on himself, like the all meat diet, or the cold turkey detox off benzos that american doctors apparently don't recommend. (which is why he went to russia).

i am not saying elimination diets are bad. they help a lot of people.

sure! he might be going with some self-consistent brand of ideological purity but I think it’s a big loop where he’s playing to his own press in order to feed his own mythology

I mean, good on him for believing benzos are useful sometimes, but if was going to acknowledge that then.. well, you get it

i mean, fine. i don't think someone who was tolerant and easygoing would write the books this guy has just cynically for money. i think that is more of a stretch than saying his ideas probably bear some connection to his personality.

and ideas aside, as a person he seems miserable, fearful and prone to dramatic exaggeration. he actually isn't this swaggering carnivore with a gift for putting people at ease, or whatever masculine archetype you'd think his followers would want to embody. he's something like the opposite of that so it's odd to me that so many people put their faith in his advice.

he’s insanely intolerant and has an overwrought personality!

I mean, if you think about most people kind of twiddling the dials back and forth on how they present themselves and their personal/professional lives to others trying to figure out what works (personal happiness, selling books, etc) then you’ll get my stance on this. I don’t think it’s one or the other, I think he’s adapting as he goes along. And the adaptation created a group of followers, many of whom are shitheads, and seems to have bad personal effects to his own life.

you are otm there!

He probably likes the idea of Andreyev as a young, white intellectual male artist working within an aesthetic tradition known for its reactionary credentials (except the contemporary classical scene has tended towards the exact opposite of that in recent decades, but I doubt JP knows or cares).

Canadian.

That too, yes.

he may not have an eating disorder but he does have COVID-19

For real?

For real.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1264814/jordan-peterson-suffering-coronavirus-mikhaila-hospital/

hahahaha

It never rains but it pours.

not yet ruling out that she might have made this up to try to generate sympathy

i was thinking that, or as a way to excuse his not appearing in public for benzo reasons

She's even more of a nut than he is.

A variation on the Bolsonaro Scheme. Still waiting for Trump to drop that particular card btw.

eating a carnivore diet counts as an eating disorder IMO

why in the name of god is he now in a Serbian hospital for his Benzo treatment? Russia didn't work out?

it’s a dysfunctional relationship w food even if it originates with the person being an asshat

Back on the bennies, locked in a bedroom upstairs, drenched in sweat, pacing to-and-fro and jibber-jabbering to himself.

this is what happens when you fuck with the chaos dragon

it's definitely orthorexic to just eat meat. even traditional communities that ate almost exclusively meat would have a much more varied diet than just eating steak all the time (the Inuit would for instance eat a variety of mammals, birds (and their eggs), fish, and berries, tubers etc. where possible)

(I've already made this point on this thread I seem to remember, Peterson specifically cited the Inuit and was wrong as he is about everything)

ILX has put more thought into Peterson than Peterson has put into Peterson.

ILX has put more thought into Peterson than Peterson has put into Peterson.

― Mom jokes are his way of showing affection (to your mom) (PBKR)

peterson could perhaps stand to put slightly more thought into peterson, given the way his life has been going of late

No no, I like the current direction.

He should give up eating meat as well. True men exist on nothing but hate and ratios.

And benzos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnCuzUd4eC0

if you're on this thread this is probably old news, but i had no idea

Fuck it! Thread about the Peterson family saga: pic.twitter.com/mV9g91m44A

— Rational Disconnect (@RationalDis) August 11, 2020

Worst Chuck Tingle ever.

lol all this stuff sounds like real psychosomatic attention-seeking. The brain damage stuff is nonsense. Weird though how he made a little gremlin of a daughter who redirected all his snake oil bullshit directly back at him and he was unable to recognise it as such. the best con men are the ones who can convince themselves. still, what an angry, dysfunctional family. that daughter clearly has a lot of resentment towards her father and i suspect that jp is such a masochist that he is loving the whole thing: the helplessness, the degradation, the drama.

thanks for that thread -- it was good to see a timeline of the saga.

the daughter seems like a very suspicious sort of character, for sure.

lol what’s the bet this stupid cunt died months ago and his con artist daughter has been trying to hide it to play some weird angle, now coming up with the covid story to lay groundwork for death reveal

Weekend at Jordie's

James Blunt developed scurvy after adopting an all-meat diet to assert his masculinity https://t.co/n6m9dNwSqc pic.twitter.com/zarV44uH9v

— Jezebel (@Jezebel) August 20, 2020

I have a friend who claims he’s been doing it for two years now. The fact that he hasn’t developed scurvy yet determined that was a lie.

i think jordan peterson secretly dead and his daughter has subsumed his online profile

“mince, some chicken, maybe with some mayonnaise.” I don’t think that’s what owsley had in mind, dude

It’s so embarrassing that the university which holds the patent on the polio vaccine also pays this fuck’s salary