more independent media = good. I wish them luck.
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
we should make new ilx posts cost 25 cents each
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
I’d pay it
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
I should have to pay for all my old posts
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
shocked the 69$/yr tier isn't called "nice"
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
if I were in their shoes I might consider one lower tier for just pod content or something. 6 bucks a month may not seem like a lot but they're not the only patron funded game in town
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
a $1.50 tier that gives you access to a page with nothing on it but a link to deadspin.com
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
the premium commenting feature is a good way to weed out trolls (from barstool)
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
I listened to the Magary/Roth pod quite a lot but honestly it was only OK. then again, I'm not sure I would pay for even the pods I like better, almost all of them are just a few people bullshitting for an hour about subjects I just happen to find interesting.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
looking forward to the eventual retrospective book, Gawker Dudes: What the Fuck Was Wrong With You?
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
they should charge extra to hide the comments
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
sure I'm going to be called a humorless neoliberal feminist or whatever for this but at some point they could consider changing the name of the "funbag" thing because it's fucking gross
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link
nah i think that's a perfectly good idea, it's a holdover from cruder days that Magary has otherwise largely renounced and I doubt he has any real deep attachment to the name, so hopefully they will drop it with Defector.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
it's in their site copy so doesn't look like it
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
what is the funbag thing? like a mailbag segment? and now we'll dive into the....funbag? that doesn't even make sense
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
that's what it is
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
one cool thing about the funbag is that no one knows exactly what's in there, it could be anything
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
heading to the post office. anyone need boobs?
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link
hold on, let me check the funbag just in case
nope, no boobs in the funbag, go ahead and pick up some please!
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
Just one giant funbag, centered
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
$69 is a hard sell when the Athletic is only $50ish (or free with my T-Mobile account)
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link
I think they're doing pretty different things, and even though I've never subscribed to The Athletic so I can't say 100% for sure, I think Deadspin/Defector has better writers, unless you're just strictly looking for reporting from your sportswriting.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
There's a fair bit of overlap in the way they cover sports, the columnists and non-sports stuff seemed like a Deadspin bonus
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link
i pay $1.25 a month for the athletic, which employs like a million writers
i don't think they have comparable business models at all, i doubt defector is going to get a lot of outside funding. they're just relying on having enough old deadspin fans with money to throw around.
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
but the athletic is relying on venture capitalists not getting bored so...
― maura, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link
the athletic is modeled off your local sports page, deadspin always branded itself as the anti-sports page
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link
oh i don't assume that either model is in any way stable xp
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link
if all the contributors on that masthead become full-time employees they need like 13,000 annual subscribers at $69 a year to pay them all $50,000 a year, plus a bunch more to pay for the CMS and so on. That'd be a very high conversion rate of the erstwhile pre-ratfucking deadspin audience, but it's also not an objectively large number of customers. Your Kickstarter Sucks, a podcast which I suspect is a more niche taste than "posts about sports", has 3,000+ Patreon subscribers.
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
maybe the premium-subscriber model isn't stable but at least if that money dries up or doesn't pan out at least it's not because some jowly moron in a bad suit thinks he knows your business
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
alternatively, they need to convince just one or two megarich deadspin fans to give them 25k per year
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
maybe chris berman will throw them a bone
why does every site on the internet have to be about sports
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
shut up nerd
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
wow harsh dude
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link
Each. It can be a “sponsor a Deadspin writer” program.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link
I do my part by buying Magary’s novels (which are surprisingly good)
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link
That’s ... not enough money― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:53 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
was not being serious
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link
they do offer the option for you to pay 25k per year tho, if you're so inclined
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
Ha ah xp
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
Over 10,000 people subscribed to https://t.co/kJAyviyXwV on Day One, but billions more have the opportunity to join on Day Two— Defector (@DefectorMedia) July 29, 2020
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
well, there you are.
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
Pretty soon you’re talking about real money
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link
More https://t.co/0l7gHBl75N style guide pic.twitter.com/P1LZCDQwLC— Barry Petchesky (@barry) September 9, 2020
First one there should be federal law IMO
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link
feel like in about fifteen years or so, that style guide is going to read as "so 2020's"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 10 September 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link
lots of ppl itt were needlessly mean to mordy back in october when he suggested they do exactly what they ended up doing
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
I remember that
― Oor Neechy, Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link
Tbh I hope Petchesky gets hit by a bus and everything he touches fails, but perhaps that's just my long memory here.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
idk what his personal failings are but I'm rooting for this sort of funding model to succeed on a whole-publication scale cause there may not be many, or any, remaining viable alternatives very soon
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
if it were not primarily a sports publication (zzz) I would def throw some $$ at it
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link