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terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link

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longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:34 (four years ago) link

My housemate got an espresso machine and I just drank an affogato at 8:30 pm in a failed attempt to make a headache go away. I look forward to being up all night.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:37 (four years ago) link

Oh no

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:46 (four years ago) link

*chef’s kiss*

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 04:40 (four years ago) link

i am having the same experience as man alive. i believe it's mostly due to work changes but my level of activity is way down generally and i don't get tired from everyday things like i used to. i didn't realize the relationship between that and my physical reaction to coffee; in my mind the arrow only went in one direction before (drink coffee-->feel more awake, not feel awake-->can't drink more coffee). i used to have a fairly active/v. exhausting job and would drink 2 large cups of coffee in the am and then sometimes have some during the day. now i have one normal-sized cup and if i have any more i get jittery and sweaty. what i am most intrigued by is that i'm not conscious of being significantly less tired. i feel as tired as usual but coffee is able to get to something hidden in your brain and it knows when you need it ooooOOOOOooooo

contorted filbert (harbl), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:19 (four years ago) link

Same here, I've gone to putting half decaf/half reg in my coffee maker. Much better in terms of jitters but obviously the taste suffers.

brownie, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link

the human mind/body is a mysterious and complex thingy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link

im drinking a cold brew coffee

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link

if i have a cup of cof after, say 4pm, it puts me RIGHT to sleep. cannot raise my head. then i wake up feeling refreshed. wonderdrug.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link

damn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link

it's like it knows what i want

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link

scientists must immediately dissect and study Tracer Hand imo

rob, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:52 (four years ago) link

all praise the good bean

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:52 (four years ago) link

probably dumb and condescending suggestion but maybe take a look at the size of yr. cups?

8 oz coffee is ~ 100mg caffeine
2 oz espresso is ~ 120 mg caffeine

american mugs are stupid big and people fill 'em to like a hair from the brim, so they're usually drinking 16+ oz at a time, like ~ 200mg+/serving and that is actually an ass-ton of jitters.

use 6 or 8 oz cups and u will be happier, also the coffee stays hotter and u can feel accomplished at finishing them.

america's favorite (remy bean), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link

I like these: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/152655689071-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

america's favorite (remy bean), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link

U could even line up a row of commemorative shot glasses and pour an ounce in each and feel like a giant

rb (soda), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link

yeah for sure my cups are huge--i'm just talking comparatively. my mug is 16 oz. i used to be able to comfortably consume 2 of them in a morning, which yeah is a lot and i'm not sad that i can't anymore.

contorted filbert (harbl), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:04 (four years ago) link

nice cups xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link

I’m drinking coffee

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

I've also experienced the coffee jitters for the first time - quite physically unpleasant. I suspect it's at least partly because I'm not moving around nearly as much as usual.

I don't feel I can get the day properly underway unless I've had 2 mugs of coffee in the morning, but I should probably cut down the several nespressos I'm having during the day (mainly through boredom and an excuse to take a short break from work).

Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:51 (four years ago) link

One awesome day in DC I was jetlagged and hungover, walking to a conference, I stopped to buy a panini (which was great) and when I ordered an espresso the person serving me asked if I wanted small/medium/large, so I said "large" thinking it would be a double shot. To my delight she then grabbed a large cup and fired SEVEN shots in, filling it. The rest of the day was perfect.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 11:19 (four years ago) link

I found by age 40 that coffee would cause me not to sleep very well if I drank it after about noon and also caused me to have to urinate a lot. /oldman

I basically quit drinking it a number of years ago, other than the odd cup on the weekend or after a meal. When I did drink it, I really noticed how much more wired I felt; after two cups, unpleasantly so.

Since coronavirus I am working from home and I've picked the habit back up because my wife has been making it every morning. At least we've been buying better coffee from a friend who owns a local roaster. We also bought a burr grinder and have been making a small french press with single origin light roasts and it's great.

My recommendation is basically to buy better coffee and drink less.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link

otm good advice for food too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that's the conclusion I reached. It's really hard to fight that urge to go get another cup just out of boredom, but I'm doing my best. I already feel myself on the edge of the anxiety state but not there, so that's reminding me not to drink any more.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

Yes otm. A stupid elaborate coffee-making process helps prevent a second cup as well.

lukas, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

im on my second glass of cold brew but i was feeling tired, might not have made this batch that strong

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Thinking I need to get myself a single-cup drip again -- I've been using a drip maker lately for reasons not worth explaining but it leads to coffee waste.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

otm good advice for food too

and wine

me when ANOHNI gets cancelled: aw naw no ANOHNI anaw noo (cozen), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

People think I’m nuts for grinding each cup I make myself, but really it’s about using my own laziness to keep myself in check. Any time I have free access to those pod things I will drink 10 cups without a thought.

beard papa, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

Two pint glasses of cold brew in the afternoon for a daily treat.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

Apologies for getting TMI but the other coffee problem I have is with it staining my teeth. When I was a smoker and drank coffee I had this problem all the time, but I quit smoking 8 years ago and when I quit drinking coffee mostly the staining problem went away entirely. I looked in the mirror the other day and noticed it was back after just 4 months of drinking 1-2 small cups of coffee per day.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link

that's about the least TMI thing I can think of if you're talking about the effects of coffee

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

yeah was sure it was gonna be about poo

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

DRINKING BLACK COFFEE
BLACK COFFEE
DRINKING BLACK COFFEE
POOPIN MY PANTS

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link

yeah was sure it was gonna be about poo

*stifles giggles*

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:11 (four years ago) link

ANYWAY

Fell into a James Hoffmann video fugue state today. I am tempted by the 9Barista, it seems like such a brilliant, gorgeous design and it would be cool to brew actual espresso, but it's 10x what my Aeropress cost. The next interesting-looking machine (the Decent Espresso) is another order of magnitude jump.

My main takeaway from today is I should upgrade my grinder. (Later I'll practice saying "of course, the grinder is more important than the coffeemaker" into a mirror.) The Knock Aergrind seems like the entry-level audiophile choice here, and is, of course, out of stock.

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

dont get a hand grinder man lol just buy yrself a capresso infinity

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link

i stopped going out for coffee during the early lockdown and resurrected my espresso stuff. i'm just rolling with a baratza encore and the ancient breville cafe roma my wife bought me for xmas in like our second year of dating (so a very long time ago), and figuring ignorance is bliss if i can make a drinkable espresso and don't look at pricey gear.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link

9Barista is £295 for a STOVETOP espresso? GTFO. Just buy a used Gaggia Classic, every morning I make a grind and brew an espresso of such good quality I'd happily pay for it.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:05 (four years ago) link

man if that's how you feel do not look up the price of the decent espresso

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:07 (four years ago) link

xps

Apparently you can upgrade that Encore with the burr (the M2) from the more expensive Virtuoso grinder for like $30 for a more consistent grind.

Thinking about buying an Encore and doing that upgrade myself. But according to nerds, it still can't really grind for espresso, and I do a fine grind + fast brew method with the Aeropress. Plus I might spring for a 9Barista one day. Or, sure, maybe a Gaggia :p

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link

JFC what is all this shit -- stovetop pro espresso? Hand grinders? $2800 ipad espresso machines?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:40 (four years ago) link

If I was gonna spend $400 on a stovetop machine I'd probably just spend $300 more and get a rancilio silvia, or maybe a breville or something like that for $500. And Capresso Infinity is the only non-barista-grade grinder endorsed by this thread.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:45 (four years ago) link

Also one thing that seems annoying about the 9Barista is that you have to make one shot at a time and then start over, so if you have company it's probably like another 5-7 minutes to make each additional shot. TBF my La Pavoni was also not great in that regard (required a lot of cleaning/prep in between shots and the water tank was small).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:46 (four years ago) link

If I'm putting in effort to make a tiny amount of coffee, I'm just going Turkish.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:54 (four years ago) link

I don't get a lot of company over these days for some reason. And the 9Barista is actually supposed to produce a decent shot! I dunno I'll look at the others.

But I do need a better grinder and ilx's recommendation seems ... a little behind the times.

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:57 (four years ago) link

how dare u

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link

There was an actual manual espresso machine (pour water from kettle into top then plunge, no electricity needed that would be 100 times more reasonable than the 9Barista

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:11 (four years ago) link


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