love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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lol

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 July 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

Could go for a couple of cocodamol now tbh

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 July 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

Surely there's other places he could have gone? I know no one's letting us in right now but Tory MPs are generally not short of cash and there's presumably some rona-free island he could have gone to.

Shapps certainly isn't short of cash hasn't he got a track record of ducking and diving.

Really get away from it all on North Rona.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 July 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

it's been a pleasure listening to these brit wankers that own bars in Spain crying like babies on the radio, thumbs up to the tories here!

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

Westminster abbey begging for state charity while its parasitical royal owners are very quiet. Let the scrappers at it, burn it down imo - which is exactly what the Tories and Labour have effectively been doing to the rest of the UK's national assets for decades now.

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

can you get maccyDs on the #eatasstohelpout scheme

||||||||, Monday, 27 July 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link

after listening to Jamie Oliver commending Boris earlier am going to have a deep-fried pizza washed down with a guinness

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link

More and more of my radical friends are having a deep-fried pizza washed down with a Guinness. There's a growing sense that we need to destroy ourselves in a way that spites Jamie Oliver

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 27 July 2020 11:45 (four years ago) link

one of the few positive acts still open to us

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 July 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link

For this reason, we have taken the decision to continue our social media activity over the next few days.

We will challenge the Government on its delays to the Online Harms Bill that would hold social media companies to account for the content on their platforms.

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) July 26, 2020

Safe to assume there won't be significant opposition to the Online Harms Bill - this has the potential to be terrible.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link

Fucking hell, two tory parties now, cheers Starmzy

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link

I note that Paul Mason is also campaigning for new regulations that mean anyone sending him 'Stoya Come To Athens / England Facepaint' memes needs to do so with their full legal name.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link

When has the Labour Party not been as authoritarian af?

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link

At least under Corbyn he wasn't playing this narrow Mr invisible game and encouraging the tories more often than opposing them.

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link

Has Brenda jumped on the bandwagon over the huge head like a penis memes? Oh no lol he can't because it would rendered 90% of his written content void!

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link

Brenda who?

the pinefox, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:12 (four years ago) link

lol that was my phone autocorrect, I meant everyone's fave rugged libertarian, Brendan O'Neill. Who recently was exposed as a sensitive snowflake when people took the piss out of his grotesquely distended bald head!

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link

I imagined it might be your latest name for the LOTO.

Politics discussion is getting like the Wimbledon ilx threads used to be, where no player was actually referred to by their real name.

the pinefox, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

LOL yes!

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link

i think that's largely due to the boredom induced by repeatedly discussing the worst offenders

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

If you thought the police policies under Corbyn were bad ... honestly this is absolutely terrible https://t.co/XBCAuaLfaF

— 🌷 Chlöe 🌹 (@ChloeAHopkins) July 27, 2020

"When has the Labour Party not been as authoritarian af?"

it just got slightly more!

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22426152.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Nicklaus-Thomas-Symonds.jpg

Nick Thomas-Symonds, 40 years old? lol being a complete tory wanker barrister cunt has been much less kinder on him than it has been on Starmer!

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link

Instead of gaslighting their citizens, or shaming them for their behaviour, or creating smokescreens via fatphobia, Vietnam have gone with effective governance. Seems to be working overall. https://t.co/EmelubHRE1

— Justin Hancock (@bishtraining) July 27, 2020

communist govt better at protecting their citizens from Rona shocker

calzino, Monday, 27 July 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link

This is an extraordinary poll.

Who voters think would be the best party at handling the economy:

CON: 40% (+3)
LAB: 17% (-2)
LD: 5% (-)
OTH: 3% (+1)
None: 8% (-2)

Via YouGov, 18-20 July (changes since 20-22 June)

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) July 28, 2020

Labour only two points ahead with Remain voters on the same question.

Let's see what happens when the furlough funding ends.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

Usual caveats for YouGov, etc.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

unlike all the unprecedented new factors in uk politics this just feels like reversion to an age old stereotype

not just the end of furlough, let's see how badly a no deal Brexit tanks what's left of the economy

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

Hmm, not sure what's extraordinary about it. Sunak has largely followed through with furlough.

Lab are v quiet

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

Starmzy doesn't present any alternative visions for the economy just for the sake of them the financial backers that have to started to donate to Labour again since Corbyn went.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

it's very odd strategy of sir starmzy to cautiously plough such a narrow path and seemingly abandon many of the very popular economic policies of Corbyn and for a style of *electability* that has him 10 pts behind in the polls and considered economically incompetent by the electorate.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

If I was Starmer's director of comms I'd keep him quiet as possible as well tbf

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link

once Roy Cropper starts talking he makes Rishi look interesting and probably fiscally less conservative than him.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link

Hmm, not sure what's extraordinary about it. Sunak has largely followed through with furlough.

Lab are v quiet


Furlough ofc being something pushed by Johnny Mc right before he stopped being shadow chancellor

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

I would be very surprised if yr average voter knew who Anneliese Dodds was. Thinking back through the last few shadow chancellors:

- big John: instantly notorious once appointed for his views, iconic throwing the red book at George Osborne moment, constant source of stories ajout being a thug. Yet despite all that plus his frequent cuddly red jumper news appearances, he’s still only 24th most recognised Labour politician according to Yougov.

- Chris Leslie: yes he was previously acting shadow chancellor in the brief post-Miliband, pre-Corbyn period. Would even his own mother recognise him as shadow chancellor?

- Ed Balls: had a funny name, then did Strictly.

Honesty they’re barely putting her out there, in contrast with Reeves, and her announcements are barely worth quoting. People like the furlough scheme.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link

I reckon Stermzy has no confidence in her, tbf she's just as useless as him!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

a lot of the Corbyn shadow cabinet wasn't very good and some of the duds are still there, but none of Starmer's are impressive, this isn't a government in waiting by a million miles.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link

Andy McDonald is pretty good and still there, but seems quite marginalised these days.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link

anyone that might go off piste and reveal some political principles or judgemental opinions other than "tories are bad, but I'm not going to expand on this cos we haven't got anything better" are doomed to be undermined by Reeves now.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

"Which of these would make the better Chancellor of the Exchequer?"

Rishi Sunak: 44% (+4)
Anneliese Dodds: 6% (+1)

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

If you said "Anneliese Dodds' Dad's Dog's Dead" no-one would know who you were talking about.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

OK I'll bite who is anneliese dodds pls

||||||||, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

someone who doesn't eat or shoot but will be leaving!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

The Blair Shadow Cabinet trailed the Tories on the economy even in early 1997, they just led them on every other factor. This is one of those things that nearly always favours the incumbent and usually the Tories. Labour are generally less trusted on being able to manage the economy with the exception of the period Gordon Brown was in the Treasury.

It really isn't about Annaliese Dodds at all - although she is barely making an impact even among the tiny minority of people who could name four members of the Shadow Cabinet. I would be surprised if she made it as far as the next election.

Let's see how it works furlough ends and we move from what we have now - mass unemployment in all but name - to actual mass unemployment with people getting a lot less from the state. A lot of people have barely begun to register what 'the worst recession in 300 years' is going to feel like - which is one reason why when push comes to shove I think the Tories might bottle it and extend furlough for a few more months.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

exposing too many people to how fucking inhumane and punitive Universal Credit is going to damage them much more than all this Spain quarantine stuff will. Although I'm vindictive enough to say every cunt that voted for them and is now looking at an uncertain future deserves a stint on UC and I hope they fucking suffer!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link

Also Gyac you forgot Masked Singer Alan "I'm just off to buy a primer in economics" Johnson.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link

UC is still chill at the moment, no fortnightly appointments, no pressure to show your applications. fuck knows if the system could even cope if they go back to the old style with millions of extra claimants

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link

i hasten to add it's still a pittance that you can't really live on but those new to the experience haven't been given the full treatment yet

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link

yeah they've been cutting dwp staff and closing job centres for years now, they probably wouldn't be able to maintain the evil pre-Rona sanctions for missing an interview because you had a brain stroke regime.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link

I don't if he was reading from his memoir "what a wanker" but I heard Postman Alan on R4extra one night talking about his rapid rise up from ambitious union rep to PLP contender. What a vacuous self-important arsewipe, and he's sort of like a mix of Weller and Wiggins with the swagger of Gapes. He thinks he's a character in norman jewison's F.I.S.T. movie sort of deluded cunt.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link

Really it should be a no brainer for the Tories, you can either allow an era of basically free money to carry on doing its thing or you can commit an action that, at a stroke, is going to really fuck off millions of people who has previously been holding you in reasonably high esteem.

Also there's no sign that Johnson and Cummings are particularly arsed about deficits at all.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link

Also Gyac you forgot Masked Singer Alan "I'm just off to buy a primer in economics" Johnson.


Wasn’t he the actual chancellor?

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link


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