Baby Boomers vs. Generation X vs. Millennials

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born in early 70s, has never read Harry Potter, seen any Harry Potter movies or Lion King -- though a few years back I was in a band with a millenial who once brought a grade school friend home to watch their VHS of the Lion King after school and half-way through they discovered his dad had overdubbed porn onto the tape -- and that is my Lion King story

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

no that's how the actual lion king goes

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

Rule 34.

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

born in 90, basically everyone i know has read the potter books (well, everyone who read books at all) with varying degrees of love/obsession. i have a friend who re-reads all seven books every summer.

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

born in 86, nearly everyone i know has read the potter books (well, everyone who read books at all) with varying degrees of love/obsession. I have not read them nor seen the movies, and recoiled from the whole phenomenon while it was still new. I wish I could say it was for better reasons than simple kneejerk elitism but hey sometimes that pays off in the long run

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

tbh I was very much pushed into a certain track and was also a weird little punk kid. I got arrested for the first time for protesting when I was 15. Deeply weird and obsessive and opposed to what i termed "mainstream culture."

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

avoiding all art is a good way to make sure you don't have any problematic faves

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

Born in 1971. Never saw The Lion King until this year. Was turned off to everything Harry Potter by an asshole co-worker circa 2000-2005 who was obsessed with the books. Nobody I've met IRL since who's heavily into that stuff has come off like anyone I'd want to hang out with or talk about...anything, really.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

spoken like a true gryffindor

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

born in early 70s, has never read Harry Potter, seen any Harry Potter movies or Lion King

same. i was working in bookstores when the first few came out, though, and it was pretty cool to see all the kids fucking stoked to read these increasingly huge books

i find the 'which school/house/whatever they're called would X get sent to' stuff tedious but tbh i come across HP references far less often than stupid star wars references

mookieproof, Friday, 24 July 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

everyone i know has read the potter books (well, everyone who read books at all)

Ime HP clicked with the 'I don't really like reading but I like this' crowd above all.

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

also lol at table using rejection of harry potter to establish teen punk cred

mookieproof, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

I was born in '75 and have read a few HP books and seen Lion King, although I attribute both to parenthood. Most everyone I know has also read these godawful books.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

whats harry potter

rumpy riser (ogmor), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

Born 1979. I saw the original Star Wars movies as a kid on VHS but didn't develop any attachment to them and, even though I knew the movies were a big deal, I'm not sure I truly understood until college that they were objects of obsessive interest to some of my peers. They just weren't really a part of my immediate world.

I did see The Lion King and all of the other major Disney movies from 1989 to 1996, but I think I was too old to be obsessed with them. In my view, they were generally just well-reviewed movies with good songs. IIRC, I saw The Lion King with a couple of female friends (it was the summer after sophomore year), and then we probably played mini-golf or got ice cream afterwards. Haven't seen it since.

By the time the Harry Potter books came out, I was in college and had no interest whatsoever in reading anything marketed to children. (I'm not as much of a snob as I was then, but I'm still not particularly interested in Harry Potter.)

At age ~10, the narrative series I was most into was probably the King's Quest computer games.

jaymc, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

Born in 84, by the time Harry Potter came out I had very defined tastes in sentence-level writing and HP was too clunky for me. Pushed through the first three to see what the fuss was about and then gave up. Did read a lot of Philip Pullman though.

Lily Dale, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

I'd read Pol Potter tho.

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

Born in 81, had zero knowledge of the existence of the Potter books until the movies blew up - but it seems like people 2-3 years younger found it foundational, with almost a hard line in the middle of 1983.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

Christopher Pike novels were my bad YA weapon of choice.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

I have vague memories of YA novels from the 70s featuring a smart awkward female protagonist who lives in NYC and may or may not be Jewish meeting a cute, cool boy she does fun things with like attending leftist discussion groups and publishing underground newspapers -- I don't think it was a series.

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

no that's how the actual lion king goes

― Guayaquil (eephus!)

good teenagers, take off your clothes

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

I'd read Pol Potter tho.

― pomenitul

pretty sure that's just j.k. rowling's twitter

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

Between age 10 and 12 I read the first 20 Xanth novels so I could never throw stones at Potterheads.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

The closest thing to YA novels I read as a tween were kitsch-ridden tales set in the Dungeons & Dragons and Magic: The Gathering universes, such as R. A. Salvatore's Icewind Dale Trilogy and Arena.

And does The Wheel of Time count?

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

After Xanth I got the first Wheel of Time book but there were no puns so fuck that.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

Our local braid-tugging and bathing experts will resent that remark

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

Sometimes I feel like the only person in my age cohort (late eighties/early nineties) who didn't, and still doesn't, get HP. There's something about the whole boarding-school setting that I find inherently repulsive. What a terrible setting for a fantasy!

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

What a terrible setting for a fantasy!

One about magic, anyway.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

Pol Potter: a young man discovers he has the magical powers of genocide

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

So this is apparently a thing:

https://polpotter.bandcamp.com

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

xps actual LOL @ unperson & pomenitul

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

I have vague memories of YA novels from the 70s featuring a smart awkward female protagonist who lives in NYC and may or may not be Jewish meeting a cute, cool boy she does fun things with like attending leftist discussion groups and publishing underground newspapers -- I don't think it was a series.

Sounds like a great candidate for Let's help each other identify books we dimly remember reading as kids !

Doctor Casino, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

Is Pol Potter the only one allowed to wear glasses?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

listening now -- i am disappointed ...microfascism 2 seemed so promising but it just sounds like fucking around on ipad synth apps

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

In high school all the girls in my class were heavily into The Mists of Avalon, which came out 1-2 years before most of us were born.

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

fucking around on ipad synth apps

Meant to approximate the sound of Adolf Hitler in art school iirc.

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

oh pol potter -- i had such high hopes 4 u

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

I have vague memories of YA novels from the 70s featuring a smart awkward female protagonist who lives in NYC and may or may not be Jewish meeting a cute, cool boy she does fun things with like attending leftist discussion groups and publishing underground newspapers -- I don't think it was a series.

This makes me think of Buffalo Brenda by Jill Pinkwater, but there's no main boy character in that one, just India Teidlebaum and her friend Brenda, and also it's from 1989 and they don't live in NYC. Great book though.

Lily Dale, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

sarahell, that sounds like a Norma Klein novel.

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

Between age 10 and 12 I read the first 20 Xanth novels so I could never throw stones at Potterheads.

You're brave to admit that, milo (oh shit, me too)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

I had very defined tastes in sentence-level writing and HP was too clunky for me. Pushed through the first three to see what the fuss was about and then gave up. Did read a lot of Philip Pullman though.

As someone else with very defined tastes in sentence-level writing, I would say that the Potter books hold up in quality as the series goes on better than the Pullman books are doing!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

I kinda don't want to know what these books actually were ... I am more content with my vague memories.

sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

xpost Agree that The Amber Spyglass ended up being worse than anything Rowling ever wrote. Of course I had no way of knowing that at age ten, when I read The Golden Compass and the first Harry Potter book and decided I liked Pullman's writing but not Rowling's.

Pullman definitely has some irritating verbal tics, like his habit of giving all his big dramatic scenes a Biblical flavor by starting every sentence with "and." But I think overall he has more of an ear for how words sound together than Rowling does.

Lily Dale, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

I have to grudgingly admit that Rowling does know how to put sentences together, and they work particularly well when read. It's just all so thin compared with a real writer like LeGuin or Tolkein or Twain.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 July 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link

born '87, enjoyed the first 3 HP books well enough at the time, gave up completely after the 4th as it was so shit and have not returned

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

late to this but: 89, my grandmother bought me the first harry potter book around either elementary or middle school, I read a few chapters and thought it was boring, and forgot about it. then of course it blew up

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 24 July 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

Xpost to mookie, it wasn't really to establish punk cred lol, I wasn't going around calling Potter fans squares or anything. I was a gay kid who went to need camp and loved grindcore, HP just wasn't my deal.

Like I wrote a book report on the Chuck D biography in 8th grade and had my own zine.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 24 July 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

Nerd, not need camp

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 24 July 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

couldn’t bring myself to read them, but I listened to the whole series as audiobooks

Dan S, Friday, 24 July 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link


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