Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

we may disagree alfred but that remains a quite popular perception of harris

it's possible even Biden's people are canny enough to know this is not a great time to pick a self-professed cop

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:26 PM

people don't see her as a cop, self-professed or not

do we have data

Attorneys general are fond of calling themselves ‘top cops’ IIRC

we may disagree alfred but that remains a quite popular perception of harris

Not among normal people.

we may disagree alfred but that remains a quite popular perception of harris

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.),

on Twitter, sure

Biden and his people definitely DGAF even if she’s seen as one though.

That's a more legitimate argument, actually, because a politician's first instinct is cynicism.

Biden’s still on the more cop funding train, he’s not going to shun someone for being a prosecutor or cop.

oh ok

i prefer "major phony" for Harris

Thoughts

1. It is a nonzero possibility that Biden will die or resign in office.

2. Even if he doesn't, his VP will be a serious contender to succeed him.

3. Either way, this seems one of the surest extant paths to having a woman president.

4. I am on record as being a fervent Warren supporter, but! 4a. A ticket of two really old and really white northeasterners? Nope. And 4b. Warren has more power in the Senate and would likely be replaced by a Republican, no thanks.

5. No opinions beyond those, I would be okay with a lot of the current speculations

you're right except for 4b.

would have loved to see Elizabeth Warren as president, but as a 70-something year old vice president behind a 70-something year old president? no

make AOC speaker of House, third in line behbeh

too young for prez tho

Make AOC VP and promise to not die before she turns 35

Wait no

I think it's gotta be Demings –– she's got cop cred that'll appease scared white folks

Biden has been a politician a long time, so it is quite possible he will heed the small voice within, which warns him not to select anyone whose superiority to himself will be obvious in any way. That's a burden few presidents would care to face for an entire term of office, even if one who obliquely hints that he's not interested in a second term.

Many xposts to many, but I don't know a single person in my non-ILX life other than my boomer parents who refers to Harris as anything except 'Cop-mala.'

Was it Carlin who said DAs were lower than a snake's asshole?

prosecutors work in law enforcement, there’s nothing outrageous about calling them cops

I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon

i don't even own a Nixon

Judges also work in law enforcement. So do defense attorneys. To anyone who is alive to fine distinctions, such as the difference between an orange and a tangerine, a prosecutor's job looks nothing like the job done by cops. But apparently some people are not alive to such fine nuances.

This is willful disingenuity and suggests you are totally blinkered to how DAs function in most cities—arm and arm with the police department. That’s not a value judgment...it’s just the way it is.

I am also curious about whether or not ILX has the same sensitivities to the nonpejorative “Top Cop” commonly applied to the AG in this country.

xxxp

Many xposts to many, but I don't know a single person in my non-ILX life other than my boomer parents who refers to Harris as anything except 'Cop-mala.'

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, July 21, 2020

you should listen to your boomer parents

This is willful disingenuity and suggests you are totally blinkered to how DAs function in most cities—arm and arm with the police department. That’s not a value judgment...it’s just the way it is.

― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, July 21, 2020

yes, arm and arm with the police department

Uh...yeah. They do. The work with the police to collect and produce evidence.

Literally.

I've never referred to the Attorney General of the United States as "Top Cop", in either a pejorative or non-pejorative context. Nor do I ever hear this usage, nor read it. So, I am inclined to doubt it is commonly applied. But maybe I live under a rock.

Aimless I know you are your own search engine, but just...look it up?

OK I searched Google for: "Attorney General" "United States" "Top Cop"
It returned: About 53,800 results.

For comparison, a search on: "Attorney General" "United States" "ratfucker"
It returned: About 28,600 results

search for "Attorney General" "Archie Bunker"
About 329,000 results

isn't "cop llama" funnier than "cop-mala"?

My doubts about this "commonly applied title have not been effectively dispelled by recourse to a search engine.

No doubt they haven’t.

Judges also work in law enforcement. So do defense attorneys.

I mean I don’t even know where to begin with this one.

It is hard to begin when you have no idea.

The US Attorney General also runs DOJ, which is the part that makes them a "Top Cop".

xp I’ll just let you do it. Go on and Aimsplain how defense attorneys are considered law enforcement.

arm-and-arm with the police department isn't how Chesa Boudin works as SF DA, and it wasn't how Kamala Harris worked

go to bed, all of you, this is dumb, and I should know

so we're abolishing district attorneys and attorneys general too?

there's plenty to criticize about harris's record but imo it's weakened if you start from the position that anyone holding her office is automatically a cop and thus bad by definition

Kamala called herself the "top cop":
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4813155/user-clip-kamala-top-cop

That said, I think "Kamala is a cop" is a lazy meme that doesn't meaningfully engage with her record or policies.

I’m not arguing for or against dismissing Harris on that basis, just reacting to the absurd dogpiling on Milo for calling her a cop, as if he crossed some kind of line, which is hilarious. As cops go, so far as I understand , she wasn’t the worst.

anyway THEY’RE ALL COPS maaaan

Judges also mostly suck FWIW and it shouldn’t be a calling card for higher office.

No one in the business of locking people up for weed should ever be respected.

Congress should be made up entirely of former teachers (no administrators) and defense attorneys