'Labour has no interest in discussions around defunding or abolishing the police but we recognise the ongoing work that needs to be done to ensure that policing reflects the values of...., etc, etc'.
This would have been so easy that you have to wonder if yesterday's interview as given was the point, rather than a reflexive kneejerk. And yeah I haven't really heard 'defund the police' used much over here at all.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link
it was the point and the point was “fuck you”
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link
He could also - though he didn't - have pointed to a report from his own Shadow Justice Secretary, who is black.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link
Just heard Jonathan Ashworth say the reason UK was late to lockdown was because we thought this epidemic was going to be like swine flu. This statement is patently ridiculous. The genome of SARS-CoV-2 was published in January and we knew then it was a coronavirus, not swine flu.— richard horton (@richardhorton1) June 30, 2020
jesus wept
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link
A positive of Starmer rubbishing BLM like this is that it pushes 'defund' more and more to the conversation as a thing.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link
Surely Ashworth meant it like it would have the same impact in the UK as swine flu did. He's still a chump.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link
I'd want to hear it in context as it's not a reason for why the UK was later than other countries. That was a political call.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link
he's fucking awful and when mostly the rest of Europe were locking down it was pretty clear this mofo was no H1N1
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link
tbh it's been tempting to flip 'defund the police' back at Tories given their policy over the last ten years was to do exactly that
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link
there is line between treading carefully because "the GBP don't like to see pols making cheap political capital from the Rona" and just being a complete fucking useless idiot.
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link
"We also clap for those who make our NHS possible: our innovators, our wealth creators, our capitalists and financiers." https://t.co/hve0sI2ea4— alex hern (@alexhern) June 30, 2020
omg clap for Branson!
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link
(xxp) Yes, ironically, the Tories have been defunding the police for years.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link
was just listening to the press conference while making breakfast, glad i missed the clap for billionaires bit
― i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link
Covid had been fucking Italy for almost a month before they eventually locked down here. Was very clear it wasn’t on the same level as swine flu.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link
Ashworth a dick but at the same time:
A call for caution please. Media are escalating anxiety by talking of a “killer virus” + “growing fears”. In truth, from what we currently know, 2019-nCoV has moderate transmissibility and relatively low pathogenicity. There is no reason to foster panic with exaggerated language.— richard horton (@richardhorton1) January 24, 2020
― stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:12 (three years ago) link
Clap for capitalists! #Clapitalists
He really went there huh
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link
It might, *might* have explained why the government was so lackadaisical in preparing for the threat in January and February, perhaps they also thought it would be like SARS and not really make its way over here. It is the absolute flimsiest excuse for not locking down early given what had already been happening in Italy, France and Spain.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link
Ashworth really shouldn't have said "we" there, as if he had anything to do with it.
I think what Ashworth was groping for is that they were following the pandemic flu playbook, which is basically true (but they were always doomed because they'd cut the knees off even the flu response with austerity)
― stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:16 (three years ago) link
100 staff working in 13 care homes across Leicestershire have been told 'you're sacked' unless you accept two weeks less paid holiday, a 30% cut in wages, scrapping sick pay scheme plus more. This is the reality of a broken, privatised system where profit trumps people.— Chris Jenkinson (@UNISONRegSec) June 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link
"Why then, is the new national security adviser a political appointee with no proven expertise in national security?" asks former prime minister Theresa MayMichael Gove says not all national security advisers have been "steeped in the security world"https://t.co/7R5crkq6sE pic.twitter.com/aQE810tiBp— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) June 30, 2020
O_o
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link
"Bad experts still bad, experts suggest"
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link
The post has apparently only existed since the Cameron government which is probably a factor in why Cummings and Gove think it's so open to them fucking with.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link
Fucking hell, the look of loathing and contempt on May's face. I know she looks like that most of the time but she really hates Gove.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link
a rare moment of alignment with the rest of the human race
― i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link
Yes.
Quite remarkable.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link
It's amazing. I also think there are going to be more Tories that hate the announcements today, too. I wonder how long he keep this lot together – signing a pledge to GBD is different from agreeing to all the other shit
― stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link
Love too see it.
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link
Though I'm sure Starmzy will put her in her place soon.
I wonder how long he keep this lot together
it would be a shame if the tory party split, then there wouldn't be any more "countdown to inevitable tory party split" thinkpieces that i've been enjoying since 2016.
― neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/P88TmoE.png
We need ZS to add some laser beams shooting from her eyes
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
a bunch of spooks and wannabe spooks fighting over spook stuff is the kind of political stand the country needs right now
― i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link
On a fundamental level Tories understand power and will do virtually anything to get it and hold onto it, it's not in their nature to split, although as we've seen they can be a big man for a purge on occasion.
(xpost - tbf if this appointment fucks up it's going to do so very badly indeed)
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link
glad to see she's still wearing weird shit around her neck
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link
Also they've got a big fuck off majority they can afford to carry some disgruntled backbenchers.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link
They don't really, though - SBush OTM with the "Labour had a landslide loss, but the Tories didn't get a landslide majority". They've already had some lossees to backbenchers, can definitely see this getting messy with what's to come. meanwhile in 20pts ahead corner:
New from Labour NEC. Lara McNeill asks Keir Starmer if he will uphold same zero tolerance approach on antisemitism to Rachel Reeves' praise for Nancy AstorHe said "I'm not going to discuss that"Also refused to be drawn on BLM - one source says he is in "no mood to compromise"— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) June 30, 2020
― stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
lmao
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
"There is a balance that must be struck, between law and order..."
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link
Lol don't question the big boss even if he is a hypocritical dickhead.
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link
the real blue labour was the friends we lost along the way
Struck in particular by this ... Lab-to-Con switchers in 2019 are to right of even most *Tory* voters on social values issues. It is not going to be easy for Lab, with its current metro-liberal, soft Corbynny base, to get these people back. pic.twitter.com/JYvUscfZNR— Rafael Behr (@rafaelbehr) June 30, 2020
― stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link
no fan of landlordism, but i'm going to have to get the bailiffs round to evict sir keiron starmer from my head and collect 5 months of unpaid rent— Stan The Golden Boy (@tristandross) June 30, 2020
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
fuck me the difference here between the blue bars (which the govt publishes) and the red (which it doesn't) is stark. This graph is for Leicester:
But the govt is sitting on a much more complete dataset including pillar 2, which tells a completely different storyMore than 90% of new cases in Leicester are now under pillar 2, yet these numbers are not public. If you’re a local biz owner in Leicester, you only see the blue. pic.twitter.com/aZY20EuOGc— John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) June 30, 2020
― stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
Jesus Christ.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
So what exactly do the blue and red bars represent, ie what is the diff?
― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link
Possibly a good question in there for the next PMQs. Oh no never mind, let's not politicise this and no questions!
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
uhhhh can we get the pillar 2 data for glasgow pls
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
Why oh why didn’t I take the blue pillar
― Keir’d flex (wins), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
Blue is positive tests handled in hospitals, red is positive tests outside of hospitals iirc.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
Have literally no idea what that graph means, but I'm going to go with yikes!
Xp okay yikes! confirmed
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link
Test (but hide the results) & Trace (using untrained testers) is going to save us!
― stet, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link