love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

am largely sympathetic to user Left, but fucking hell, read the room, and don’t come in here being smug about Corbyn Labour’s cop-shagging policy (itself no doubt a broad church concession to the right) when some of us have watched the only party capable of forming a government go full pelt for the Soldier F vote.

it’s part of the same fucking thing is my point. the labour party being itself. this didn’t come out of nowhere

presentation aside is the problem that I’m stating the obvious or that my positions are wrong because the complaints sort of seem to be both, bit of a double bind if you ask me

RLB replaced with Kate Green, Chair of the enormously successful Owen Smith leadership campaign.

the problem is that you keep posting

Not read any of their recent posts itt but user Left is a diamond in my book

lol

i mean you are not going to find a non-crank webforum any more sympathetic to anti-imperialist hard-leftism, what are you trying to intervene amongst

― imago, Saturday, 27 June 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Thank you ilx I am so grateful to you

a million xposts but 'he cant be professional he's fat' is one shitty fucking take

I had been assuming that Left was a longstanding ILX poster using a sockpuppet but even with mod powers haven't been able to work out who. (Although I have a suspicion).

gabb nebb

Left is my sock, along with bizarro gazzaro and others. There’s a cunning dn code for the sock accounts run by me, Left is the original though so doesn’t have one.

did wonder why the bizarro gazzaro account was so bad. makes sense now

Yeah I save my worst content for that one.

Providing a place to rant/vent is an essential function of this thread but 'wake up sheeple your hero is a fraud' lines of argument have always recieved the treatment they deserve on ILX and long may it continue.

lack of a hero is making everyone a little unsteady tbh

Alright Bonnie Tyler.

Yeah I save my worst content for that one.

*does IP lookup* the ShariVari one is pretty good though.

That’s why I post less on that one tbf.

I decided I rate left when a bunch of posters jumped on them for going off on a despicable revive of a thread called “Slaves?”

& they were otm and the rude way they expressed themselves was also otm in this instance so you couldn’t even use the tone policing argument

& I thought it would maybe serve a useful function to get ppl to tell on themselves in this way

Not really speaking of their recent posts itt which I haven’t read but endorse

I too stand with user Left except on the mariah carey thread where their posts are getting flagged

Left is kind of like if morbs was wordier and a libcom, but with less panache than the good doctor.

Here we go.

Local Lockdown for Leicester on the cards as schools have had to close & hundreds have become infected.

We warned Keir Starmer & Boris Johnson that this would happen. They didn’t listen. https://t.co/xUXPvBdF1B

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) June 27, 2020

people in Leicester just need to show some guts imo

lmao at starmzy being lumped in with the actual govt there - good work keir

Leicester Conservatives deputy chairman Rhys Brown said: "The council's mixed messaging has caused the city centre and parks around Leicester to be full this afternoon.

"Due to these Labour officials we now face the threat of being the only city to be pushed back into lockdown."

these councillors (of all parties) are such a bunch of wankers, but that is pretty rich!

if it’s any consolation, rhys, you won’t be the only city being pushed back into lockdown for long

Good thing those pesky teachers’ unions have lost their ally in the shadow cabinet

Solidarity with all those who protested and demanded #JusticeforShukriAbdi today 💙

Shukri was racistly bullied and tragically died at just 12 years old. The police's pitiful response exposed their terrible racism.

Say her name: Shukri Abdi#BlackLivesMatterUK https://t.co/B4AVhbIhNE

— London Renters Union (@LDNRentersUnion) June 27, 2020

Protests like this and organised strikes by teachers are the way forward. The 30 or so Left lab MPs need to show solidarity, but apart from that there is nothing to be expected from Lab.

“Such a blatant abuse of international law must have consequences” says @lisanandy 👏 https://t.co/O0V40mat5l

— Liam Young (@liamyoung) June 27, 2020

I decided I rate left when a bunch of posters jumped on them for going off on a despicable revive of a thread called “Slaves?”

& they were otm and the rude way they expressed themselves was also otm in this instance so you couldn’t even use the tone policing argument

& I thought it would maybe serve a useful function to get ppl to tell on themselves in this way

Not really speaking of their recent posts itt which I haven’t read but endorse

It’s a good day to be a recently ousted shadow education secretary being slammed by her snakey ex colleagues for *checks notes* siding with the teachers unions.

The Labour right have always been a bunch of complete cunts going way back, but this post-Blair intake are the most vacuous, amoral clique in Labour history, in their minds they just play for a different club. Unions? They caused the winter of discontent.

EXC: Angela Rayner, Keir Starmer's deputy, vented about hard left "Trots" to Labour official

Last year she told Patrick Heneghan: "I've said it from the start it will be the trots that do Corbyn in.They are not interested in a Labour government"

WhatsApp in complaint to HQ 1/2 pic.twitter.com/ujskHMMICw

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) June 27, 2020

have these people ever met a trot since their uni days

idgi does she think RLB is "a trot"?

maybe just behind her back

even when I was dumb enough to think Rayner was potentially a force for good I knew she talked absolute clueless garbage about the Blair era, but I let it pass!

God I wish there was actual Trots in the PLP

Again, this probably is Starmer and his backers moving against Rayner (presumably too close to union bureaucracy), but is also proof that she is a crapweasel too in her own way

— Rosewood Shoehorn (@apiarism) June 27, 2020

The second message she goes on to say “there are people obsessed with destroying Corbyn”

I keep mentally mixing up Rayner and Nandy which is probably not a good sign for Rayner

during Corbyn's leadership she did ok and I can't remember her being part of the sabotage squad, but it became very clear during the leadership election she had lots of friends on the right of the party, and opinions she kept to herself previously!

In the old days the Sunday papers only used to spoil your Sunday. In the digital world they aim to spoil your Saturday evening too.

— The Justin Horton Show (@ejhchess) June 27, 2020

How many different ways can you spell "conservative"? https://t.co/eRSNmINE14 pic.twitter.com/vAmoQD6MRl

— SW Carver (@invisibleste) June 27, 2020

From the context of the conversation, it looks like she’s frustrated with people on the left encouraging the party to split (so not RLB, Corbyn, etc) and with right-wing MPs trying to take Corbyn down. idk if it tells us anything about her we didn’t already know.

Wtf does it mean to be pro-family? Does she go round coupling up random strangers or is it just a codeword for "frothing homophobe"?

Starmer's choice of pro-brexit tory arsehole policy guru sounds like he's shifted a bit to the right from his fence in the middle of this culture war.

Tbf you don't need to be pro-Brexit just don't be a FBPEep in the face of the inevitable

The bad cropping on those messages (they’re talking about the TiG splitters), also tells us the splitters weren’t liked either lol